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moose eater

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It will make people just make more radical and split them. And it will open the door to real antisemitism not to be recognized. Not saying the Hamas are saints, but if you kill children and expect other countries to be acceptable, it won't end well and will make look yourself like "the bad ones" (in black white thinking which is quite common in these extreme political positions).
Yep, the Hasidic Jews who often question or oppose the newer version of the Nationalist Zionists and their crimes under Bibi and Mossad, already have commented many times, along with others, that the abuses Israel is engaging in has led some/many people to generalize Jews and what it means to be Jewish and failing to see the difference between Judaism and Bibi's opportunism, war crimes, and false religion. They already know this will lead to more antisemitism and hate being expressed toward Jews in general, when it ought to lead to more judgment toward the abusive militarized Zionists instead.
 

EastCoastGambit

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Lucky for us and them that a minority of our populations can be discerning. The majority of the populations cannot be discerning and that is pretty much why none of this will end well.
 

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Countdown begins for Russia’s Ukraine offensive​

 

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The war in Ukraine seen by the one who was the main adviser of Boris Johnson before breaking with the first sinister. A leste and devastating language that describes l’ wellextraordinary mediocrity of the motives and actors of this terrible and cruel war, whose logic and necessity are vainly sought. The “mafia expression of clowns” perfectly accounts for the level and main characters of those who lead the war on the American-Westernist side: corruption, cynicism, unculture, hypocrisy, grotesque inconsistency.

If we choose to dwell on a few remarks quite lastes and kept as is d’un gentlemanly de british’elite on’Ukraine, this is certainly not’ for revelations that’il would bring us about this. Because of revelations, point at all...

But it appears to us interesting and important, and perhaps, – hopefully, – significant for many spirits still prisoners of snapshots of the System, to’hear a speech in a language if leste and if contemptuous, and this precisely d’un gentlemanly who's part the System, which was still the prime minister's chief adviser Boris Johnson in December 2020 when’il resigned following’un “scandale” ; c’that is, first-size political scandal for insufficient wearing of this anti-Covid mask which was the’enjeu d’une of the most brilliant political battles of our elites for the defense of the civilization in recent years.

PhG-Bis's Note : « We can consult the Wiki on Dominic Cummings to measure its political importance: leader of the political movement for Brexit and adviser n°1 Johnson, came from’a very middle crested, – and, d’a quite unexpected way, having as one of his idols the colonel of’USAF and reformist hated by the Pentagon bureaucracy John Boyd's. This’ is moreover what guided Cummings with Brexit: attack the the Brussels bureaucracy, with its intention, never realized, of then S’ tackle the British bureaucracy. »
Cummings does not take gloves to give his opinion. He employs L’argot and the common exclamations between politicians, outside the microphones and electoral speeches. For us, it's’ of much more qu’a simple let-go, it is’ of’a deliberate will on the part of Cummings to show his contemptuous exasperation at the situation and the’evolution that led to it.

The tone and words used by a character that is necessarily aware of the causes and forms of the actions of men who making decisions lead to considering the’ hypothesis that’il n’y a in these decisions no geopolitical or metapolitical dimension, nor moral, etc. This’ is not to surprise us but it is welcome because one might hope that this sheds some light on the truths-of-situation of the war in Ukraine, including on the foundations of the great and majestic political and moral theories that are built around, before and after...

We start with general considerations, made during’an interview on ITV-News last Wednesday, and repeated by RT.com :

« “We would never have had to find ourselves in this situation stupid”, said Cummings. He also described’Ukraine as a “hole of the ass of corruption that’a no political importance”.
“It is not’ d’a repetition of 1940 with squash
[the ukrainian president Vladimir] Zelensky as outsider churchillien”, he added. “All this mafia state corrupt Ukrainian has defrauded us all and we will all make ourselves fuck accordingly”.
Western sanctions have been “more a disaster” for L’UE only for Russia, driving up the cost of living while moscow and Beijing, according to Cummings. Everything the’ Occident has managed to do, it’is to embark on a war of’attrition with the Russia, “which we pushed to conclude an alliance with the most great manufacturing power of the world”. »

Another chapter addressed, the’effect on Putin of the behavior of Western, – “the lesson we gave to Poutine”, since’en indeed we do not cease to’affirm that the’attitude of the’West-satisfecit keeps showing glorious and superb orientation to the “master of the Kremlin”, who would be completely stunned by this torrent of virtue. On hear the sneers of Dominic Cummings.

« Cummings also addressed the’ argument that the russian President Vladimir Putin needed to “receive a lesson” from made of the’invasion of its neighbors.
» “The lesson we gave to Putin, it’is that we are totally a bunch of fucking comics”, he said.“ I well, Putin S’en doubted well before the war, but this’ confirmed it totally in its perception. In addition, it is’ broadcast worldwide, to see confirmed which band of clowns we are”.
» ... And here's america is putting a layer back on wanting to seize Russian assets, thus creating a sanctions regime which encourages the establishment of alternative financial systems to global scale... This does not teach Putin any lessons, but shows only that we are idiots". »
Now a few words about his former boss, which’il has no only left in December 2020 (resignation), but to which it does NOT’adresse more speech. This does not prevent him from’have kept antennas that him allow to report what’il deems to be a behavior analysis.

It describes infantile and unconsciously contradictory behavior d’a man who also denied having sabotaged the’accord russo-ukrainian’April 2022 as’ affirmed the negotiators and ukrainian media, but confirmed telling Ukrainians that any deal with Moscow would be bad, – what is not’ is not bad sabotage but carpetbombing... (See also Eric Zuesse's)

« For Boris Johnson, War “was like a gift from heaven, a lifeline to keep everyone away from their implosion probable policy... by fulfilling her churchillian fantasies”. “Ironically, Westminster [the Commons] he totally swallowed it everything, even if they hate Boris and constantly criticize him as a charlatan liar, they swallowed all his bullshit about Ukraine and took it seriously”. »

L’archetype of the tragedy-bouffe
L’anglo-american expression « a bunch of clowns » can translate in multiple ways, to the’image of the word “bunch” (“bande”) which may have sympathetic or sordid connotations in a multitude words, while the word “clown” used universally, and in this case, is d’an extreme meaning and unique of burlesque, ridicule, grotesque,’idiots absolutely complete – meaning wanted or not depending on whether’on is a real clown or that the’on has involuntarily a clown behavior.

So we found ourselves absolutely justified in choosing l’expression “mafia de clowns” qui a l’advantage des faire appear les two aspects, not only of the Ukrainian leadership, not only the hidden conditions of this war, not only of our own directions, but from the’event itself such as’il was organized. Du blow, the extremely lest talk of Cummings, rude words, are also perfectly justified in their realism, and completely to their place.

The united americanist-westernist front is totally mafia-like. C’is the overwhelming evidence for the Ukrainians of Zelenski and Co are murky and glaucous creatures, lying with aplomb confusing, acting and any open-air corruption, with a disarming hypocrisy of “franchise”. Their allies of the’Ouest are also all this, but a notch higher, better tie and more attentive to’accent and pronunciation. They conduct themselves in “parrains” of Ukrainians with a natural that never ceases to’exsuder all possible virtues. Corruptions are done with more discretion, moreover,’s all being in attitudes and functions that are corruption itself.

In short, it looks like a beautiful and good organization, well oiled, by skillful people, who know by certain commitments certainly of complicity but also of’a certain loyalty follow the same path that must answer to certain apparent logics that don't care about laws and customs. None of this ! Our “mafias” are made of clowns, and by no means of “parrains” attentive to some paradoxical wisdom. They are all at both stupid, uneducated and incompetent; they are gangsters of low floor or worldly crooks, but also perds-nickeled none of which manages to set up an operation that is not’ promised to collapse. The’set releases an exceptional ridicule, what’on called on the Parisian scenes of the Belle Epoque the food.Like this war is also a tragedy because of what’elle is killing and killing what’elle breaks, we are in the presence of’a complete tragedy-bouffe, an archetype of the thing.

Cummings' dirty, rude talk will seem out of place to some. Not to us, because’il restores an obvious reality of this war, because’il is of the level of the characters who have caused it, the prolongs it for sordid interests, deforms it to make itself believe in themselves that’s are what’s they would like that’ believes that’s are ; because’il finally signals us that the truth-of-situation what we consider to be great events begins with a absolute infamy, continues with a simulacrum buffoon and rude before to give indirectly and to the’insu of all the protagonists of the fruits and always unexpected and unexpected effects, – and that, for L’Ukraine, we do not know yet.
 

So Hai

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Yep, the Hasidic Jews who often question or oppose the newer version of the Nationalist Zionists and their crimes under Bibi and Mossad, already have commented many times, along with others, that the abuses Israel is engaging in has led some/many people to generalize Jews and what it means to be Jewish and failing to see the difference between Judaism and Bibi's opportunism, war crimes, and false religion. They already know this will lead to more antisemitism and hate being expressed toward Jews in general, when it ought to lead to more judgment toward the abusive militarized Zionists instead.
You presented a no true scotsman fallacy here moose.

Lets go over this again. This is a hasidic jew explaining judaism.
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Non-jews are not called human. There is no contradiction in the following statements only more religious justification.

Here is another quote from the hasidim for good measure.
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And to sum it up here is bibi nitay with the hasidic cheif rebbe.

Pretty much speaks for itself..
 

moose eater

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You presented a no true scotsman fallacy here moose.

Lets go over this again. This is a hasidic jew explaining judaism.
View attachment 19001057 Non-jews are not called human. There is no contradiction in the following statements only more religious justification.

Here is another quote from the hasidim for good measure.
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And to sum it up here is bibi nitay with the hasidic cheif rebbe.

Pretty much speaks for itself..

Your example speaks in contradiction to several others who say differently.
 

moose eater

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Once again, a demand for extra-legal protection and punitive action toward those who see what's really happening and say so... Heaven forbid Israel's 3'4-century of war crimes and human rights violations should be protested.

As the Nationalist Zionist fascists pro-apartheid Israelis continue in their roles as petulant spoiled children....

 
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