Variances within Malawi Gold?

[spliphy]

Hey Paz

Hey Paz

spliphy, I forgot to ask you something: how long do you think that ssh leaning pheno in your malawi hybrid will flower for? the malawi hybrid I made was crossed with colombian cripi, the two phenos I've found are different, one is around 80 days in flower and the other well around 110 days.

much peace

the hybrid is pretty quick actually....both parent plants were quick to declare with continued pollen and seed production (3 and 5 months respectively I kept them alive and making seeds).....the hybrid is an replacement grow that wasn't intended for production so its hard to remember "flower days"...didn't keep good track of how old the plant is...it was more of a germination test with these seeds, and I kept a couple of plants around....the way things turned out... I needed it for "produce"

my best guess is that it is 120 days from seed and just about finished.... I really want to take the plant to just before the soltice to add weight and have a plant to put in replacement for this hybrid...so another 30 days unless the weather worsens

This is only one plant I have so a proper grow needs to be done to determine the pheno range, if you will

I have other projects now before I can get back to this unfortunately

all the best

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

spliphy, a quick flowering malawi x ssh sound very nice indeed, the ssh should give it a lot more punch good luck with all the projects man

Londinium, man! you gotta take pics of that journey, it sounds awesome good luck!



peace

 

[Londinium]

Hey Spliphy no problem,glad to help.......Yeah I agree he(Jim) is a great guy with his heart and soul in the right place but slightly unrealistic and a tad Narrow in his views sometimes......His crew has probably helped preserve and share more African genetics out in their 'Local' forms to more people than anyone else tho' so is a Dagga Legend in my eyes and always will be anyhoo...... Bless him!
Never Liked his 'TranskeiGreen' tho' I had one I liked better before getting Ripped off in the '90's and I'm going back to get more next year if poss as none of last resort f2's and f3's from my freezer have germed in last few years.......That TLG and Proper Durban were always my faves above Malawi and Swazi anyhoo....But harder to grow well and nearly impossible to find now....Malawi is much easier to find good examples of nowadays as ias Lesotho stock....IMO! JBo ;]

 

[GroMore]

Afropips Malawi certainly stood out heads and shoulders above African Seeds version. I've done both. I've grown Afropips for around 4 years now, produced a squillion beans and get a lot of pleasure from doing this strain. She does particularly well in the high rainfall wet seasons here as she doesn't get knocked down easily.

I must say, the pineapple thing is quite true to taste with Afropips version but it only seems to manifest itself when its grown to a certain maturity where it comes through with a distinctive cinnamon taste on exhale. Pineapple in, cinnamon out. Nothing I've grown has quite the high of this stuff, it's cocaine-like and really buzzy when its at its best. Some folk don't feel this high end of the sativa spectrum when they're used to indica based strains but those who do, luv it and simply rave on and on about the intensity of the high.

GroMore

 

[C Qual]

Londinium, Thanks for all the info. What is the protocol on cob making. How deep, are cows' pee a factor, or will any pee do? How long in the ground. Isn't there mold made from burying this. Is it buried green or after it has dried.? Do you take all the stems out first.?
Are corn fields alternated with cannabis fields in a crop rotation scheme, there?
Your info is invaluable, Thanks, again!

 

[spliphy]

good report

good report

Afropips Malawi certainly stood out heads and shoulders above African Seeds version. I've done both. I've grown Afropips for around 4 years now, produced a squillion beans and get a lot of pleasure from doing this strain. She does particularly well in the high rainfall wet seasons here as she doesn't get knocked down easily.

I must say, the pineapple thing is quite true to taste with Afropips version but it only seems to manifest itself when its grown to a certain maturity where it comes through with a distinctive cinnamon taste on exhale. Pineapple in, cinnamon out. Nothing I've grown has quite the high of this stuff, it's cocaine-like and really buzzy when its at its best. Some folk don't feel this high end of the sativa spectrum when they're used to indica based strains but those who do, luv it and simply rave on and on about the intensity of the high.

GroMore

Great info on Afropips...I have 2 seeds left of his and 2 African versions...not really enough to do a comparison by any means myself (generally only noticed Afropips fuller..sort of smelled the same-woodsey/perfume)

will get more of Afropips gear....one thing on my cross with the nice lemony SSH and African seeds version...I hope all the plants from seed feature the dominance of SSH as my one example does....then I would feel it was very worth while....the wild seeds would be more of a "landrace", yes?

 

[GroMore]

Malawi Jim once sent me some sample packs in return for a favour I did him when he was still around, a pack of Senegal Haze which he reckoned was Senegalese Sativa x Phoenix Haze (Senegal Sativa x [SSH x Neville's Haze]) and some Sweet White Malawi's (forgotten what these were but they had some Sweet Tooth in their make-up).

Sadly, I ain't ever gotten around to growing either. I'm always finding myself a tad hands full to get around to trying a fraction of the beans I've collected over the years, much is the pity but I'd love to give the Senegalese Haze a go sometime soon.

Interestingly though, Jim reckoned the Sweet White Malawi was really delicious and always the first to run out from his private stash.

GroMore

 

[spliphy]

so little time...so many beans

so little time...so many beans

Malawi Jim once sent me some sample packs in return for a favour I did him when he was still around, a pack of Senegal Haze which he reckoned was Senegalese Sativa x Phoenix Haze (Senegal Sativa x [SSH x Neville's Haze]) and some Sweet White Malawi's (forgotten what these were but they had some Sweet Tooth in their make-up).

Sadly, I ain't ever gotten around to growing either. I'm always finding myself a tad hands full to get around to trying a fraction of the beans I've collected over the years, much is the pity but I'd love to give the Senegalese Haze a go sometime soon.

Interestingly though, Jim reckoned the Sweet White Malawi was really delicious and always the first to run out from his private stash.

GroMore

yeah GroMore, I feel yah on those beans...let us know if anything decent comes from those plants...once you grow them

Hey Londinium,...all the best on your travels mate...very interesting on the Transkei and Durban....hopeing you will find something tasty on the proposed trip...it sounds very interesting...I hope things work out so you can complete it

 

[C Qual]

How would we recognize the sweet white pheno? ...wonder what that is.?

 

[villain420247]

I still have to read this whole thread and I lived in Malawi for about a year back in the early 90s. Some cobs actually made their way back to the states even There was definitely several varieties there when I lived there...I hung out with locals, largely at Salima on the lake. There was one strain that my friend Peter would travel to get for me and the cob would always be wrapped in a rubber band type of thing (like a bicycle tire cut into little strips), that stuff was incredible. The more common stuff wrapped in string (of which there was several types and crap tons of) was nowhere near as strong.
It's cool to hear after all these years that those strains have been spread around. I think I need to grow some for old times sake

 

[Thule]

Hi Spliphy,Paz(muchos gracias),thule hope u r all good?!
Lovin all this info and views on Malawi....I hope I can get back to the Mumland next year.
Namibia firtst as I have been promised a visit to a 'garden' there with a very special inbred line 'started' in 1983 from a superb,sticky, black 'DurbanPoison',I am v.excited about this prospect.Oh yes!
Then to The Cape area to chill with city and township buddies.Then round and up the coast(mostly) via Transkei(I'm told Transkei.L.G. is not gonna be a problem still,so slightly hopeful on that one as well) and Durban with a few stops on the way.
Then I plan to go back to Malawi for a couple of weeks,taking a friend from Transkei with me and meeting a Malawian friend who visited me in London in '98 after we met there in early '90's...You gotta know some local peep's really or it is Impossible to get 'in' with growers there IME.
I wouldn't dream of doing this on my own...You must have African people with you or you get nowhere at all....But they are very friendly once u r trusted and will go out of way to help u!
Gonna hopefully go to Ghana and maybe an Island? before leaving Afrique.
Paz I agree M.Gold isn't that psychadelic,I think good Durban is/was tho' and the TLG as well...thats why they are my fave's from southern africa.I do love the high from Malawi buds,but its not that spacey compared to the others mentioned.
The hybrids you and spliphy mention sound great tho' mmmmmh!
Luck y Lumens JBo ;]

Hi Londinium! All good here bro! Just dying to get back to growin.

Sounds like you're in for a growers dream trip in Africa. The durban poison has black buds? Sounds interesting! I've never grown DP but some other southern Africans like Sawazi rooibaard, bushman's and bambata. They are different from Malawi gold in almost every aspect but share some features with each other, especially in leaf shape. They never have fingers that point towards the plant. They are often very racy too as you said. Bushman's was too much for me at the time, scary shit, not very pleasant for someone suffering from anxiety Hope you'll be able to bring back some nice genetics with you.

 

[spliphy]

nice cultural information

nice cultural information

I still have to read this whole thread and I lived in Malawi for about a year back in the early 90s. Some cobs actually made their way back to the states even There was definitely several varieties there when I lived there...I hung out with locals, largely at Salima on the lake. There was one strain that my friend Peter would travel to get for me and the cob would always be wrapped in a rubber band type of thing (like a bicycle tire cut into little strips), that stuff was incredible. The more common stuff wrapped in string (of which there was several types and crap tons of) was nowhere near as strong.
It's cool to hear after all these years that those strains have been spread around. I think I need to grow some for old times sake

good history on Malawi...all the best

 

[spliphy]

best wishes on your quest

best wishes on your quest

Hey Spliphy no problem,glad to help.......Yeah I agree he(Jim) is a great guy with his heart and soul in the right place but slightly unrealistic and a tad Narrow in his views sometimes......His crew has probably helped preserve and share more African genetics out in their 'Local' forms to more people than anyone else tho' so is a Dagga Legend in my eyes and always will be anyhoo...... Bless him!
Never Liked his 'TranskeiGreen' tho' I had one I liked better before getting Ripped off in the '90's and I'm going back to get more next year if poss as none of last resort f2's and f3's from my freezer have germed in last few years.......That TLG and Proper Durban were always my faves above Malawi and Swazi anyhoo....But harder to grow well and nearly impossible to find now....Malawi is much easier to find good examples of nowadays as ias Lesotho stock....IMO! JBo ;]

Please start a thread on 'proper DP'....would be stimulating

More on the TLG too please

 

[Londinium]

Be glad to but I am a little too busy rite now...but will get something together about DP and TLG when I have some more freetime....I am waiting on some 'kei seeds from a friend in the Cape that might be promising so will document those once they are germing! I will pop in here with a little bit more info in the meantime....JBo ;]

 

[C Qual]

Any first-hand experience on how a higher outdoor latitude, farther away from the equator, affects the chemistry and the effects of Malawi G?

 

[spliphy]

cool information

cool information

I still have to read this whole thread and I lived in Malawi for about a year back in the early 90s. Some cobs actually made their way back to the states even There was definitely several varieties there when I lived there...I hung out with locals, largely at Salima on the lake. There was one strain that my friend Peter would travel to get for me and the cob would always be wrapped in a rubber band type of thing (like a bicycle tire cut into little strips), that stuff was incredible. The more common stuff wrapped in string (of which there was several types and crap tons of) was nowhere near as strong.
It's cool to hear after all these years that those strains have been spread around. I think I need to grow some for old times sake

glad to hear first-hand accounts, thank you....so all Malawi weed is processed into cobs?....the cure is that important?

Also, what did you think of the weed itself in the different cobs...was it widely different weeds with different 'style' cobs or about the same weed with different 'cures'?

 

[spliphy]

hey Thule

hey Thule

They are often very racy too as you said. Bushman's was too much for me at the time, scary shit, not very pleasant for someone suffering from anxiety Hope you'll be able to bring back some nice genetics with you.

if I may share an experience: yes, some "racy" effects with 'Africans' I also experienced...lowered the dose till 'mild' and it was good....then later, when acclimated(so to say), increased dosage... it was great....also very mellow 2nd phase (coming down)...very nice

 

[C Qual]

Thanks for sharing that Spliph! All this Malawi data is going to help me and other friends work better in widening some natural, pure treatment perspectives. Research tells me that just working only with THC is a little counterproductive in some cases. Your input just now on dosing is great to know.!

 

[Thule]

if I may share an experience: yes, some "racy" effects with 'Africans' I also experienced...lowered the dose till 'mild' and it was good....then later, when acclimated(so to say), increased dosage... it was great....also very mellow 2nd phase (coming down)...very nice

That's the way to do it. I find that people often smoke way too much in social occations and end up too fecked up for scocialising I've personally found that small amounts work best for me unless I'm looking for a mind blowing experience. I've read thcv is abundant in South Africa, maybe the raciness in Bushman's and other strains from the region can be attributed to the presence of thcv.. If it really is a thc antiagonist it's unlikely, but without having knowingly tested thcv it's hard to say.

Another way to lessen raciness is adding cbd but you don't want too much, it'll ruin the high. I'm still looking for the right dosage. I think some strains might really benefit from cbd if they feel to edgy. Will be doing a malawi gold x ruderalis cross soon. Who knows, I might end up with a thc, thcv, cbd hybrid

 

[spliphy]

That's the way to do it. I find that people often smoke way too much in social occations and end up too fecked up for scocialising I've personally found that small amounts work best for me unless I'm looking for a mind blowing experience. I've read thcv is abundant in South Africa, maybe the raciness in Bushman's and other strains from the region can be attributed to the presence of thcv.. If it really is a thc antiagonist it's unlikely, but without having knowingly tested thcv it's hard to say.

Another way to lessen raciness is adding cbd but you don't want too much, it'll ruin the high. I'm still looking for the right dosage. I think some strains might really benefit from cbd if they feel to edgy. Will be doing a malawi gold x ruderalis cross soon. Who knows, I might end up with a thc, thcv, cbd hybrid

whatever the modulating component... terpenes or other...African herb is very interesting