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dizzze

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And web activity too. i thought the states were bad. Read this in the newspaper this morning, thought it was worth posting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...mmunications/2012/06/14/gJQARl53bV_story.html

"LONDON — British authorities on Thursday unveiled an ambitious plan to log details about every Web visit, email, phone call or text message in the U.K. — and in a sharply-worded editorial the nation’s top law enforcement official accused those worried about the surveillance program of being either criminals or conspiracy theorists.
The government insists it’s not after content. It promises not to read the body of emails or eavesdrop on phone calls without a warrant. But the surveillance proposed in the government’s 118-page draft bill would provide authorities a remarkably rich picture of their citizens’ day-to-day lives, tracking nearly everything they do online, over the phone, or even through the post.
All that data would be kept for up to a year — ready for browsing whenever anyone in authority wanted it. In some cases, the bill envisages monitoring the information in real time.
Home Office Secretary Theresa May said in an editorial published ahead of the bill’s unveiling that only evil-doers should be frightened.
“Our proposals are sensible and limited,” she wrote in The Sun, the country’s top-selling daily. “They will give the police and some other agencies access to data about online communications to tackle crime, exactly as they do now with mobile phone calls and texts. Unless you are a criminal, then you’ve nothing to worry about from this new law.”
Yet plenty of people were worried, including a senior lawmaker from May’s governing Conservative Party.
“This is a huge amount of information, very intrusive to collect on people,” David Davis, one of the proposal’s most outspoken critics, told BBC radio. “It’s not content, but it’s incredibly intrusive.”
Human rights defenders were aghast. Privacy group Big Brother Watch said the proposal risked turning Britain into a “nation of suspects.” Civil rights organization Liberty said the law would mean the “indiscriminate stockpiling of private data.”
Authorities and civil libertarians have been debating the plan for weeks, but Thursday marked the first time that the government itemized exactly what kinds of activity it wanted to track.
The list is long.
The bill would force providers — companies such as the BT Group PLC or Virgin Media Inc. — to log where emails, tweets, Skype calls and other messages were sent from, who was sending them, who they were sent to, and how large they were. Details of file transfers, phone calls, text messages and instant conversations, such as those carried over BlackBerry Messenger, would also be recorded.
The bill demands that providers collect IP addresses, details of customers’ electronic hardware, and subscriber information, including names, addresses, and payment information.
What May didn’t mention in her editorial — and the Home Office left off its press release — was that the government also is seeking to keep logs of citizens’ Internet history, giving officials access to the browsing habits of roughly 60 million people — including sensitive visits to medical, dating, or pornography websites.
Prefer to send mail the old-fashioned way? That would be monitored, too. Address details and other markers printed onto envelopes would be copied; parcel tracking information would be logged as well.
Officials say they need all that information to stay on top of a rapidly-changing technological landscape. Britain’s online child protection agency said Thursday it was missing out on a quarter of the traffic used by child pornography networks. In an editorial in the Times of London entitled “Trust me, I need to know about your emails,” Scotland Yard chief Bernard Hogan-Howe said that the collection of communications data played a role in 95 percent of serious organized crime operations.
The measure remains a draft bill, which means it’s subject to change before it is presented to Parliament.
In a nod to controversy surrounding the bill, the government has taken the unusual step of submitting it for comment to two parallel legislative bodies: A joint legislative committee composed of members of Britain’s House of Lords and the House of Commons as well as Parliament’s intelligence committee.
In a statement to fellow lawmakers, May struck a measured tone, saying she recognized “that these proposals raise important issues around personal privacy” but that the law would be balanced.
She was less measured in The Sun, where she dismissed worries that the bill would stomp on free expression as “ridiculous claims” dreamed up by “conspiracy theorists.”
“Without changing the law the only freedom we would protect is that of criminals, terrorists and pedophiles,” she said.
Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed."
 

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^this is why I love the bill of rights in the USA.

It gives us the right to say what we want to a willing group when ever we want, and to the right to do it in complete privacy if we want, and if a the government wants to take it away we have the right to over throw them, and if they try to stop it with more tyranny we have the right to kill them.

America Fuck ya. lol

I am being sarcastic. the NSA is HUGE, and the current government ignores the bill of rights completely.
 

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^this is why I love the bill of rights in the USA.

It gives us the right to say what we want to a willing group when ever we want, and to the right to do it in complete privacy if we want, and if a the government wants to take it away we have the right to over throw them, and if they try to stop it with more tyranny we have the right to kill them.

America Fuck ya. lol

Where on earth have _you_ been? That america hasn't existed for nearly 200 years now.

You're a captured prisoner of war. *shrug* The sooner you fully understand that statement, the better off you'll be.

Our 'govt' is a private corporation that began overstepping itself a loooong time ago.

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:

edit: Ok... so I often suck at typing and reading sarcasm. My apologies. LOL
 
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RudeDog

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^this is why I love the bill of rights in the USA.

It gives us the right to say what we want to a willing group when ever we want, and to the right to do it in complete privacy if we want, and if a the government wants to take it away we have the right to over throw them, and if they try to stop it with more tyranny we have the right to kill them.

America Fuck ya. lol

I am being sarcastic. the NSA is HUGE, and the current government ignores the bill of rights completely.

Where on earth have _you_ been? That america hasn't existed for nearly 200 years now.

You're a captured prisoner of war. *shrug* The sooner you fully understand that statement, the better off you'll be.

Our 'govt' is a private corporation that began overstepping itself a loooong time ago.

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:

The US is subservient to their British masters.

Perhaps everyone should throw a few keywords in to every email they send.

Words like 'Jihad' etc should do the trick.
 

mack 10

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WTF? this idea better get binned. its a piss take as usual, we need to go french style, behead all politicans and start a fresh! lol mack,.
 

SetHeh

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Give Big Brother the middle finger and use Tor if you are concerned for your Internet privacy.

Tor (short for The onion router) is a system intended to enable online anonymity. Tor client software routes Internet traffic through a worldwide volunteer network of servers to conceal a user's location or usage from anyone conducting network surveillance or traffic analysis.
 

stasis

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Wow. Is British Society so dangerous that all this is necessary..?

USA Cities are more perilous, I think. Not bragging, mind you, by any stretch..

If all this happens in the You Ess Ay, what a bunch of Cr*p that would be. Pretty sure it will happen.

Emigrate. Opt Out. Screw this.
 

lost in a sea

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actually the "snooper bill" wont be about looking at the content of what you are looking at or saying online, so crucially it wont protect people from so called terrorists and paedophiles,,

its just to profile everyone, more, and make it easier for more private security firms to come into existence,, its less and less about the police imo but people wont see that for a few years yet..

of course the actual terrorists and paedophiles are running the country in all the highest positions of power and its been that way for a long time now.. they're also working for the money changers in brussels and washington district of the knights of columb,, and of course israel and saudi arabia as well..

there are basically no threats to the uk,, even after all the misery this government has spread globally, because the people we have shit on actually have empathy and can see that its the government and the corporations it represents that are the ones doing it all and not the blind babylonian megalopolites on the factory floor..

however the british people are a bunch of fucking retards that are complicit with all that misery because they are such dumb sheep that still believe in the illusion of democracy and keep voting for scum they dont know,, 70 million people trapped on a little concrete island that has no independance on anything but still has a very warped sense of nationality and empire.. we have no rights just the remaining priviledges from the state that they havent quite dissolved yet..

i wish someone would nuke london and do the world a favour..
 
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PoopyTeaBags

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the only way to screw with this program would be to overwhelm it. Like the above poster said, everything needs the key words so they would basically have everything ever sent tagged for review... Literally overwhelm them with there own information.
 

lost in a sea

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this bill isnt done on key words i dont think, its to force service providers to log every page their users go onto and stream that data into a database accessible by little piggies and private security firms,,

they have already been using a key word based system for the last 15 years,,

and the police have had the ability to request all of this data for the same length of time, if not longer, this new bill is to make it so they dont need to file a request to get all this info, it will just be available through their system all the time..

and btw this stuff is already being done in america anyway with hundreds of "black rooms" logging what people look at and then that info is sent to firms in israel to store on their databases,,

you dont know what they have planned for us..

all those rogue gentiles and revolutionaries in our population are being encouraged to show their hands for a good (or evil, from our pov) reason.. eugenics..

the people left will have a chip in their right wrist and a barcode on the right temples lol

america and europe are screwed, and this was all planned well over a hundred years ago..
 
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this bill isnt done on key words i dont think, its to force service providers to log every page their users go onto and stream that data into a database accessible by little piggies and private security firms,,

they have already been using a key word based system for the last 15 years,,

and the police have had the ability to request all of this data for the same length of time, if not longer, this new bill is to make it so they dont need to file a request to get all this info, it will just be available through their system all the time..

and btw this stuff is already being done in america anyway with hundreds of "black rooms" logging what people look at and then that info is sent to firms in israel to store on their databases,,

you dont know what they have planned for us..

all those rogue gentiles and revolutionaries in our population are being encouraged to show their hands for a good (or evil, from our pov) reason.. eugenics..

the people left will have a chip in their right wrist and a barcode on the right temples lol

america and europe are screwed, and this was all planned well over a hundred years ago..

no way it was planned over 100 years ago. they couldn't even comprehend a graphing calculator 100 years ago and now we have pocket sized smart phones that are 3 times more powerful than the super computers we had in the 80's that took up hundreds of square feet. .
 

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actually the "snooper bill" wont be about looking at the content of what you are looking at or saying online, so crucially it wont protect people from so called terrorists and paedophiles,,

its just to profile everyone, more, and make it easier for more private security firms to come into existence,, its less and less about the police imo but people wont see that for a few years yet..

of course the actual terrorists and paedophiles are running the country in all the highest positions of power and its been that way for a long time now.. they're also working for the money changers in brussels and washington district of the knights of columb,, and of course israel and saudi arabia as well..

there are basically no threats to the uk,, even after all the misery this government has spread globally, because the people we have shit on actually have empathy and can see that its the government and the corporations it represents that are the ones doing it all and not the blind babylonian megalopolites on the factory floor..

however the british people are a bunch of fucking retards that are complicit with all that misery because they are such dumb sheep that still believe in the illusion of democracy and keep voting for scum they dont know,, 70 million people trapped on a little concrete island that has no independance on anything but still has a very warped sense of nationality and empire.. we have no rights just the remaining priviledges from the state that they havent quite dissolved yet..

i wish someone would nuke london and do the world a favour..

^exactly. you guys love the queen. in america we are insulted at the idea of even having one. If some one told us to bow to a politician here they would be laughed at or told to fuck off, or if in the south punched in the face and then tarred and feathered. lol
 

minds_I

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Where on earth have _you_ been? That america hasn't existed for nearly 200 years now.

You're a captured prisoner of war. *shrug* The sooner you fully understand that statement, the better off you'll be.

Our 'govt' is a private corporation that began overstepping itself a loooong time ago.

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:

edit: Ok... so I often suck at typing and reading sarcasm. My apologies. LOL

Hello all,

"Teach the children quietly for someday sons and daughters will rise up and fight where we stood still."

minds_I
 

RudeDog

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no way it was planned over 100 years ago. they couldn't even comprehend a graphing calculator 100 years ago and now we have pocket sized smart phones that are 3 times more powerful than the super computers we had in the 80's that took up hundreds of square feet. .

The technology we have now is nothing compared to what the Atlantians had. Their technology is slowly being 'rediscovered'


^exactly. you guys love the queen. in america we are insulted at the idea of even having one. If some one told us to bow to a politician here they would be laughed at or told to fuck off, or if in the south punched in the face and then tarred and feathered. lol

Not all of us love the Queen. I don't know anyone who watched any of the Jubilee fiasco. My old man leaves the country when anything like this happens.

I wouldn't give her steam off my piss never mind bow to her.
 

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^ok now I see which part you thought was offensive. I was insulting Brits and American southerns there. welcome to the internet prepare your self for insulting generalizations. lol

also if you think there was atlantians with superior technology then you may be a decedent royalty your self. If you don't get what I am saying there, then it just further proves my point. :D hahahha

I hope you know I am just busting your balls for entertainment now. all in good fun brother.
 

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