Hey V.G, yes mate they have 4 lol, and tri's have 3 
I have tried for years to get the tri count up, at F15 if tri by tri inbred, I was still at 33%. Now I know how to get the count to double that ratio, breed quad by quad lol. Numbers so far from the first batch are 2/3 tri, 1 in 11 quad. But the first quad reverted to tri by fusing 2 of the single bladed leaves together and then continuing as a tri. Fingers crossed with these three, and the next seeds sitting in compost waiting to show.
Funky, very nice. Im always happy to see another tri in the thread. I feel guilty for killing around 30 of them the other day now.
I'm surprised it was a slow grower, with the extra solar collector at each level it shouldn't be really? It is not related to strength, or any other trait. It is merely a separate trait in its own right.
At the point that plants breed, all the instruction sets play musical chairs. Some copies of genes turn into two copies, some get deleted, and some shuffle around. If a plant has 5 copies of one gene, and it breeds, it will pass on a random number of them, as will its partner. Some offspring get more copies of those genes than others.
There is a gene that has been labelled LEA13, and that gene creates a new growth point for leaves. I suspect that the tris and quads simply have more copies of this gene than normal bifoliar plants. There seems to be a tipping point at which time you get extra leaves / branches per node. Sometimes they get turned off, and a plant will revert to a lower leaf count state.
The only way to increase their numbers is to breed with them. But be warned, see my comments to V.G. I've been doing that since 98, and only just got a generation higher than 33%. It started with one in 70 seeds when I did my first tri x tri. And that was a backcross to the original mother as I didn't get another girl in the first set of offspring from my first female plant.
Frankly it adds little more than interest to a plant. But it takes nothing from it either.
Best of luck with whatever you decide man.
Extra photos, hamlet and then black ghash starting her stretch in the background. I promise I'll do an unboxing for the tent, when I unbox it.
I have tried for years to get the tri count up, at F15 if tri by tri inbred, I was still at 33%. Now I know how to get the count to double that ratio, breed quad by quad lol. Numbers so far from the first batch are 2/3 tri, 1 in 11 quad. But the first quad reverted to tri by fusing 2 of the single bladed leaves together and then continuing as a tri. Fingers crossed with these three, and the next seeds sitting in compost waiting to show.
Funky, very nice. Im always happy to see another tri in the thread. I feel guilty for killing around 30 of them the other day now.
I'm surprised it was a slow grower, with the extra solar collector at each level it shouldn't be really? It is not related to strength, or any other trait. It is merely a separate trait in its own right.
At the point that plants breed, all the instruction sets play musical chairs. Some copies of genes turn into two copies, some get deleted, and some shuffle around. If a plant has 5 copies of one gene, and it breeds, it will pass on a random number of them, as will its partner. Some offspring get more copies of those genes than others.
There is a gene that has been labelled LEA13, and that gene creates a new growth point for leaves. I suspect that the tris and quads simply have more copies of this gene than normal bifoliar plants. There seems to be a tipping point at which time you get extra leaves / branches per node. Sometimes they get turned off, and a plant will revert to a lower leaf count state.
The only way to increase their numbers is to breed with them. But be warned, see my comments to V.G. I've been doing that since 98, and only just got a generation higher than 33%. It started with one in 70 seeds when I did my first tri x tri. And that was a backcross to the original mother as I didn't get another girl in the first set of offspring from my first female plant.
Frankly it adds little more than interest to a plant. But it takes nothing from it either.
Best of luck with whatever you decide man.
Extra photos, hamlet and then black ghash starting her stretch in the background. I promise I'll do an unboxing for the tent, when I unbox it.
