the dark little island

[paulo73]

This is a sweet&funny little thread with some great insight into the bright minds of some of my dear fellow growers. Made my morning i tell you guys.
If anything i would avoid the childish and ego driven remarks that reduce our chances of hitting the nail in the head
In these 7 pages, may they grow larger please, i can see a very interesting and healthy mix of views and mindsets and i find this the best thing in the world. I just feel that at times we need to embrace each other views,feels and thoughts fully in order to understand ourselves and it seems to me that we fear doing this maybe afraid of loosing important parts of our Self...i´m babbling ...or having a diarrhea fix...so i stop.
Btw i´ve arrived to the UK 7 years ago and due to the increased darkness me&family are leaving for good in a couple of days.
J Saville and all involved is just a fat fly on top of a shit cake, too revolting even to look.

 

[lost in a sea]

well i agree with you paulo personally,

i really hope you and you family find a wonderful new home with an empathetic, compassionate and rich (culturally mostly) community of people,,

if people cant tell im inferring that britain is non of those things generally speaking,, 90% of people probably dont even know the names of their closest neighbours let alone think about "community" or sharing and receiving or any archaic concepts like that..

and maybe somewhere with a slightly less genocidal sycophantic government and less state propaganda,, which is most of the globe..

too revolting even to look.

not for those born inside this shiny metallic shithouse though that is the problem and why it keeps going around,, because it turns out that the very lost souls here on zombie island actually love being told what to do, what to think and what to feel because it gives them freedom from thought and responsibility which they crave.. whatever anyone says you can polish a turd, just flick the bbc on..

essentially the place is going feudal style communist yet again... anyone noticed that quantative easing is really just money printing and therefore money debasement and essentially results in the equity and power going from the savers over to the lenders.. which is why people are noticing that the gap between the so called "elites" and the rest of us is getting so vast, because our governments in the "west" are doing the bidding of those that have owned and funded their fake currencies for hundreds of years,, at one time it was the likes of the sinful Medici family located in florence if you go back pre 1600's and then it became the Rothschilde dynasty balancing the books for kings/popes and organising depressions and war..

the same cycle has happened over and over but this time we have more sensory distractions than ever in human history, fake impulses firing in peoples brains 24/7... football, trainers, fast food, sexualised idols on mtv, porn.. all provided by a system that is totally unnatural, a whore mother, but it wipes your arse and tells you your safe when you arent so sheep keep grazing.. its a great "show" to watch, by design, but will people like the various endings in store if they dont take some control in their own destinies?

a scene from fritz langs silent 1920's movie called "Metropolis".. about the dystopian result of modern technology on the human soul.. was banned for a long time after it was released probably because if the masses had seen it it would have changed the last century for the better imo.. made at Babelsberg studio in Germany..

 

[southflorida]

damn lost in a sea...you dropping some heavy philosophical shit in this dark little thread of yours.

i'm afraid you might be soon accused of diarrhea also

but, on a more serious note...what IS happening in UK and USA, and pretty much in all modern western civilization is what's been happening for thousands of years.

...a small bunch of idiots inventing all kinds of dances, and then forcing the rest of the population to dance to them, while paying with their SLAVE labour at dirt cheap prices

 

[southflorida]

i mean if we get rock-bottom honest and ask ourselves

who the f*** invented all these dances that we are dancing to on a daily basis?

the answer is mofos that run the governments and the churches, which are probably the same freakin group of idiots

...just look at the twin towers, or cannabis prohibition...what are the consequences?

...money made through war, death and imprisonment of innocent individuals for a few more zeros on the offshore bank statements of all the a-holes involved in this grand global scheme

it is obviously the way it IS...but still amazing --- how blind the masses are to the truth...and to how they are being manipulated into being SLAVES while believing and assuming they are free

 

[paulo73]

It seems that critical thinking and a philosophical approach are a big NO NO around here.
My guess is that some people just because they don´t grasp what is written get afraid and give it bad rep...Poor scary cats.

 

[davie blah]

This is a sweet&funny little thread with some great insight into the bright minds of some of my dear fellow growers. Made my morning i tell you guys.
If anything i would avoid the childish and ego driven remarks that reduce our chances of hitting the nail in the head
In these 7 pages, may they grow larger please, i can see a very interesting and healthy mix of views and mindsets and i find this the best thing in the world. I just feel that at times we need to embrace each other views,feels and thoughts fully in order to understand ourselves and it seems to me that we fear doing this maybe afraid of loosing important parts of our Self...i´m babbling ...or having a diarrhea fix...so i stop.
Btw i´ve arrived to the UK 7 years ago and due to the increased darkness me&family are leaving for good in a couple of days.
J Saville and all involved is just a fat fly on top of a shit cake, too revolting even to look.

Paulo if you have been here 7 years surely you should relise by now that the increasing darkness is just the winter

 

[southflorida]

This is a sweet&funny little thread with some great insight into the bright minds of some of my dear fellow growers. Made my morning i tell you guys.
If anything i would avoid the childish and ego driven remarks that reduce our chances of hitting the nail in the head
In these 7 pages, may they grow larger please, i can see a very interesting and healthy mix of views and mindsets and i find this the best thing in the world. I just feel that at times we need to embrace each other views,feels and thoughts fully in order to understand ourselves and it seems to me that we fear doing this maybe afraid of loosing important parts of our Self...i´m babbling ...or having a diarrhea fix...so i stop.
Btw i´ve arrived to the UK 7 years ago and due to the increased darkness me&family are leaving for good in a couple of days.
J Saville and all involved is just a fat fly on top of a shit cake, too revolting even to look.

I left USA about twenty years ago. I had other reasons, but I don't regret it. Currently I live in the Baltic States, and am very happy, because this is where I was born, and even though it was the USSR at that time, currently it is part of the European Union.

Actually this last part EU really fucked up my country, and over 500,000 people immigrated to many other eu countries, mostly to the UK...obviously.

In fact my son and daughter both live and work in the UK and are currently very happy. I don't know how long this will last, I guess until they completely get used to it, and the self-mind starts f*cking with them once again - pushing them forward into the next series of experiences.

As far as this thread, yes except for some large, muscular people that have confused themselves with being KING of icmag, and handing out their opinions as FACTS --- this thread is rocking!!!

 

[southflorida]

It seems that critical thinking and a philosophical approach are a big NO NO around here.
My guess is that some people just because they don´t grasp what is written get afraid and give it bad rep...Poor scary cats.

The self-mind is a really powerful SURVIVAL program.

These days this survival is in the SOCIAL domain...in other words social survival.

This means the self-mind interprets EVERYTHING it perceives in relation to itself.

If it is creating this world, through its beliefs and assumptions, and also relating everything to itself....doesn't it seem to be a closed system???

What we have is the self-mind creating, maintaining, promoting, and protecting (all together is what I'm calling SURVIVAL) itself.

Who sees a serious FLAW in this....except me?

 

[paulo73]

Not sure about it...

Not sure about it...

The self-mind is a really powerful SURVIVAL program.

These days this survival is in the SOCIAL domain...in other words social survival.

This means the self-mind interprets EVERYTHING it perceives in relation to itself.

If it is creating this world, through its beliefs and assumptions, and also relating everything to itself....doesn't it seem to be a closed system???

What we have is the self-mind creating, maintaining, promoting, and protecting (all together is what I'm calling SURVIVAL) itself.

Who sees a serious FLAW in this....except me?

I agree with you when you say the self-mind is a survival program and that nowadays a "collective self-mind" is growing too large for our own sake. If this is what you meant of course

Are you 100% sure that our self-mind really "needs" to perceive everything only by relating it to itself? I prefer not to believe in this.

Empathy is not Sympathy and yes if i know that our Brains/Minds/Egos/Selfs play a major role on the creation of our Reality i don´t believe for a second that all that there is is a creation/perception of mine/ours. This would be dead boring!!!

I feel you when you talk about "closed systems" but i only need to read a thread like this one to understand that there are no such things
Sorry for all the stupid little emoticons but that´s me little, stupid and almost proud of it.And yes i´m very stoned...

 

[southflorida]

I agree with you when you say the self-mind is a survival program and that nowadays a "collective self-mind" is growing too large for our own sake. If this is what you meant of course

yes. and an individual and a collective self mind are of course NOT separate, only distinct (different), a little bit...lol

the self-mind, especially the collective one...is f*cking truly insane.

this crisis and the current wars and all the other BS going on - on such a massive scale is just outrageous

just the iraq and afgan wars...2 million civillians dead...thousands of soldiers...and other regions continue to be shaken (syria...etc)

Are you 100% sure that our self-mind really "needs" to perceive everything only by relating it to itself? I prefer not to believe in this.

...believe it or not...but the self-mind is a survival mechanism and all it does 100% of the time is make sure we survive as the self that we IDENTIFY as our real selves.

...in my link below, I explain about why what we perceive is never direct...why we NEVER see what IS actually there.

This alone shows without a doubt that our organs of perceptions have been designed for survival and NOT for grasping the TRUTH.

and by TRUTH...I do mean that we ARE Consciousness (Being).

Empathy is not Sympathy and yes if i know that our Brains/Minds/Egos/Selfs play a major role on the creation of our Reality i don´t believe for a second that all that there is is a creation/perception of mine/ours. This would be dead boring!!!

That's why it all seems so real. It is the only perceptions you ever had right? So you believe and assume that what is happening is important and you have to do what you have to do to survive.

I mean, just look back on your life...can't you clearly see you've been doing nothing but surviving your whole life? Socially mostly, I'm not talking about physical survival that much...even though that is important...and believe me as soon as physical survival becomes priority #1...social survival goes out the window for a while.

But it ALWAYS comes back strong. We are SOCIAL creatures, aren't we?

Just check out this forum

Social survival at your best. Even have a REP-METER....lmfao

I feel you when you talk about "closed systems" but i only need to read a thread like this one to understand that there are no such things.

yeah u right...it is all ONE. distinct BUT not separate.

We are all elements in one freakin un-known structure called Consciousness.

by un-known I'm pointing at the nature of Consciousness of course which is NOTHING.

But not the kind of NOTHING we think with our mind, but a REAL NOTHING...like nothing there period.

Infinitely Nothing. infinity and nothing are the same thing. no end. no beginning. Absolute.

Sorry for all the stupid little emoticons but that´s me little, stupid and almost proud of it.And yes i´m very stoned...

a unique "self" u mean

 

[Harry Lime]

So I looked it up and guess what, not one of the illustrations looks anything like the handshake in the photo. Now there's a surprise

As for your mate and his celeb satanist friends. Do you really expect us to believe you because you say it's so? Name them. Name your friend. Prove it or we gonna have to call bullshit on ya. You do know what facts are, don't you? You've heard of stuff like evidence, yeah? So give us some. I'm happy to change my views when the evidence shows me to be wrong. Or take yer voodoo shit to a more appropriate forum.

As for lost in a sea. All I can do is repeat what I said...

This says more about where you're really coming from than anything I could say in response to your gobbldygook.
Funny how no matter what they're peddling, you have to be one of them, 'initiated', 'walking the path' to get it.

Now, ya reckon ya studied science? Yal know all about scientific process, gathering and presenting evidence, yeah? So do it Man and I'll believe ya. Give us the evidence. Don't be frightened Man. I'll believe ya if you give me reason to. If you don't I'll call bullshit on ya and tell ya to stick it up your arse...allegorically, of course

So no evidence then?

 

[Harry Lime]

u probably haven't see some of my posts in Tokers Den:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=246092

Nope, never even looked at the Tokers Den. Do you explain in there how this bloodline banking/Zionist/satanist/Masonic/BBC gang who run the world facilitated Savile's behavior?

 

[southflorida]

Nope, never even looked at the Tokers Den. Do you explain in there how this bloodline banking/Zionist/satanist/Masonic/BBC gang who run the world facilitated Savile's behavior?

Nope. I talk about stuff like why we as human beings never perceive anything directly, meaning that everything I write and everything anyone writes is pretty much BS in relation to the truth.

This actually means that we have never seen anything but concepts inside our own mind.

For most folks this is a hard thing to get their head around, but when one does, the human condition is seen for what it is.

survival (physical 1% social 99%)

 

[Harry Lime]

Nope. I talk about stuff like why we as human beings never perceive anything directly, meaning that everything I write and everything anyone writes is pretty much BS in relation to the truth.

This actually means that we have never seen anything but concepts inside our own mind.

For most folks this is a hard thing to get their head around, but when one does, the human condition is seen for what it is.

survival (physical 1% social 99%)

Oh. You see, that's what the thread was about.

So when I say I set my ph to 6 before watering it's bullshit?
And the plants I water are really just concepts in my own mind?

Amazing

 

[southflorida]

Oh. You see, that's what the thread was about.

So when I say I set my ph to 6 before watering it's bullshit?
And the plants I water are really just concepts in my own mind?

Amazing

I'm saying what you are perceiving IS not what is really there.

What you are perceiving is indirect. It is a secondary process based on interpretation and the meaning you give it.

This is all based on the beliefs and assumptions you have recorded in your mind.

And you thought it was all reality?

Don't they teach you all anything in the UK?

In America this is Consciousness 101

I'm 100% serious about you NEVER perceiving reality as it is...by the way!

 

[paulo73]

Amazing!
Each man is an island and today i seem to be talking in freaking quotes.
From the ethereal non-reality of southflorida to the down to earth/ostrich approach of Harry Lime and everything in between is just beautiful what a guy can actually "learn" from all this exposure.
BTW i totally disagree with your last statement southflorida
"For most folks this is a hard thing to get their head around, but when one does, the human condition is seen for what it is.

survival (physical 1% social 99%) "

Are you really saying that we are stuck on this? Or are you talking about the majority of the Human population? Do we have means/needs to break these concepts?
And what do you mean with those 99% social?
Using Harry Lime example, it is a good one, where do my love for growing plants, any plants, and caring for animals, again any animals, goes into?Survival? Social?
And why all my emotional side relating with both these two innocent activities, farming and breeding animals, that the Human race have been doing since ever?

 

[Harry Lime]

I'm saying what you are perceiving IS not what is really there.

What you are perceiving is indirect. It is a secondary process based on interpretation and the meaning you give it.

This is all based on the beliefs and assumptions you have recorded in your mind.

And you thought it was all reality?

Don't they teach you all anything in the UK?

In America this is Consciousness 101

I'm 100% serious about you NEVER perceiving reality as it is...by the way!

Amazing! I never knew that. I guess they don't teach us anything in the UK. I wish I was brought up on the Baltic where they teach you this stuff.
Funny though, I lived in the USA and no one mentioned any of this to me. Or maybe I just perceived that no one mentioned it to me?

So what's really going on when I perceive I'm watering my girls?

 

[Harry Lime]

Amazing!
Each man is an island and today i seem to be talking in freaking quotes.
From the ethereal non-reality of southflorida to the down to earth/ostrich approach of Harry Lime and everything in between is just beautiful what a guy can actually "learn" from all this exposure.
BTW i totally disagree with your last statement southflorida
"For most folks this is a hard thing to get their head around, but when one does, the human condition is seen for what it is.

survival (physical 1% social 99%) "

Are you really saying that we are stuck on this? Or are you talking about the majority of the Human population? Do we have means/needs to break these concepts?
And what do you mean with those 99% social?
Using Harry Lime example, it is a good one, where do my love for growing plants, any plants, and caring for animals, again any animals, goes into?Survival? Social?
And why all my emotional side relating with both these two innocent activities, farming and breeding animals, that the Human race have been doing since ever?

I'm assuming the ostrich reference means I'm burying my head in the sand to avoid dealing with something? What's that then? Shape shifting alien lizards controlling Jimmy Savile from their base on the moon? Bloodline bankers?

 

[southflorida]

Amazing! I never knew that. I guess they don't teach us anything in the UK. I wish I was brought up on the Baltic where they teach you this stuff.
Funny though, I lived in the USA and no one mentioned any of this to me. Or maybe I just perceived that no one mentioned it to me?

So what's really going on when I perceive I'm watering my girls?

I was born in the Baltic States, grew up in USA, and at 23 came back to the Baltic States and have been living here for the last 19 years.

I have been studying Consciousness for a very long time, 28 years, and the human condition has always fascinated me. Maybe the contrast from the Soviet USSR in comparison to Miami Beach had something to do with it, or maybe the Hazes we smoked with my friends when we were 13...I don't know.

But, what goes on when you water your girls is a virtual reality, like you see on a monitor when looking at War Craft.

You are confused with a "self" that you believe and assume to be YOU.

This character believes it is a human being watering plants in a physical reality.

While, the truth is that it is all happening in your mind.

You are simply aware of a bunch of phenomena (that's unknown) and you are interpreting it using your beliefs and assumptions recorded from the past.

In a nutshell.

 

[Harry Lime]

That's all well and good but you haven't explained what ya reckon is really going on when I'm only perceiving that I'm watering my girls.