OK - if I see anyone embellishing the divide with the whole righty/lefty thing - then I will try and make the same points we have made here - its best that way - since really I can't see any card carrying Trotskyist's or goose-stepping Nazi's on these boards - and if we are to have any real progression within a debate - from my experience its best done without any name calling - and assumptions as to what someones political persuasion might be.