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Please post up something to support your false assertion that the scientific method ever led to a flat earth theory...
methinks you are confusing myth and history.
I sincerely hope you do not take these most recent comments as a dispute head, I am only here to share my views. I am not looking for a conflict or argument, and this will be my last posting on this topic so if no further comment is made by me please do not take offense.
I do not think my original point of view is getting across, and most likely has to due with the burden of our unique experiences and the words we use to describe that. You are a facts type of person, and I can sincerely appreciate that. All I urge of you is to consider your facts, and just like icmag all the research in the world done by others is just that. Research, third party, not your experience. While it may be similar, or even exact, it can also be different. It can be different and the same, and now I know that I am sounding a bit on the limb grabbing fruits so I will leave it at that.
As for your request to references about my belief that people used to think the earth was flat there are many that I choose to believe. Again that key word believe, and we will all do this to our own hearts content. I believe this by artifacts found from ancient civilizations that have lived before us. Just as the data collected by science, I believe the data as factual. I will not however jump to conclusions about what that data represents. We seem to have a different view on data, science, and how it applies to the world we live in. Just like the topic of global warming is natural, humans naturally keep themselves preoccupied with doomsday events and have done so since the beginning of time. We are changing the world we live in, and it would be foolish to think we do not. How does that apply, we can only decide for ourselves. I try to live with a conscious heart and open mind, and will not look for approval from others. That is all I can do with myself, and the daily struggle is difficult.
What is global warming and what is the greenhouse effect?
In a nutshell science would lead us to believe it is what happens to earth, then earth dies. That is nature at it's finest! What is beyond? Science does not tell us that, so I will not ask science of any other assumptions of what the future holds. I will enjoy and cherish this experience and hold hope to learn of a better understanding.
Pardon, I almost forgot the references you asked for.
I will not spoon feed you any information, as it is our duty to do our own research and find things our for ourselves. As noted before we believe in what we wish to believe, and time is a huge variable to consider. I think this has to do with the difference we have in opinions, and remember I am not saying you are wrong. I really hope that intent in felt through those words.
Hecataeus of miletus was a greek historian who illustrated his maps with the belief the earth was flat. He was not the only one, and there were in fact people who lived before Aristotle. Speaking of Aristotle, whom should be quite relative to this flat vs round side topic, he has been documented to have expressed his views of a cylindrical earth in opposition to those who maintained belief in a flat earth. I could go on and on, or you can google it as it seems much of your cited material comes from. Not that it does not have merit, but it has the same merit of anything else.
Not to further muddy this topic, we see with our eyes; but hasn't science proved that we do not see nearly everything there is to see? How can we believe them (eyes) then? You do not have to answer these questions as I noted I do not wish to continue my point of view, because after a while of anyone doing so it seems like preaching. Just wanted to give others another perspective to use as reference material. Kind of like here on icmag. Until the brain and consciousness is figured out, I will hold out on choosing a side just yet. I do however envy your commitment on your stance and the need for such a topic in the first place, as it's relevance to our lives and what we live for vary widely. nam myoho renge kyo