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That is not a drug. It's a leaf!

vta

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"Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica." - Abraham Lincoln (from a letter written by Lincoln during his presidency to the head of the Hohner Harmonica Company in Germany)

"Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth & protection of the country."
- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President

"Make the most you can of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere."
- George Washington, U.S. President

"We shall, by and by, want a world of hemp more for our own consumption."
- John Adams, U.S. President

"Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself; and where they are, they should be changed. Nowhere is this more clear than in the laws against possession of marihuana in private for personal use... Therefore, I support legislation amending Federal law to eliminate all Federal criminal penalties for the possession of up to one ounce of marihuana." - Jimmy Carter, U.S. President

"I inhaled frequently. That was the point." - Barack Obama, U.S. President

"The war on drugs has been an utter failure. We need to rethink and decriminalize our nation's marijuana laws." -Barack Obama, January 2004

"The illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world." - Carl Sagan, renown scientist, astronomer, astrochemist, author and TV host

"Why use up the forests which were centuries in the making and the mines which required ages to lay down, if we can get the equivalent of forest and mineral products in the annual growth of the hemp fields?" - Henry Ford, whose first Model-T was constructed from hemp fibers and built to run on hemp gasoline

"Prohibition... goes beyond the bound of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded" -Abraham Lincoln

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." - Albert Einstein quote on Hemp

"That is not a drug. It's a leaf." - Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor of California

Then you have this.........

"I now have absolute proof that smoking even one marijuana cigarette is equal in brain damage to being on Bikini Island during an H-bomb blast" - Ronald Reagan

BTW....


The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp.

80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin.

It was legal to pay taxes with Hemp in America from 1631 until the early 1800s.

Refusing to grow Hemp in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries was against the law. You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769.

Rembrants, Gainsboroughs, Van Goghs as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen.

In 1916, the U.S. Government Dept. of Agriculture predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down.

For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for cannabis.

The hemp plant produces up to four times more cellulose per acre than trees. Hemp cultivation and production do not harm the environment. The USDA Bulletin #404 concluded that Hemp produces 4 times as much pulp with at least 4 to 7 times less pollution.

Hemp fuel is non-toxic, biodegradable and does not contribute to sulfur dioxide air poisoning.

In Feb. 1938, Popular Mechanics called Hemp a 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars.
 

Texicannibus

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Well the founding documents actually was not produced on hemp ... but nice post. I only recently learned that myself on this site.
 

Leon Brooks

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i wonder what went wrong in the last 100 years. what person had that much power to shut down a multi-millenia running system that provided sooo much FOR sooo many.

its as if they wanted to take the "power" to provide for ones self to give it to big brother corporations.

dont know about you, but, as little as i know about growing, i know even less about drilling for oil or combining different chems together to make tylenol and vicodin. oh wait the chems to make those drugs are patented and you would be sued.

capitalism is a double edged sword that the greedy hold to the just.

odd isnt it.
 

vta

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i wonder what went wrong in the last 100 years. what person had that much power to shut down a multi-millenia running system that provided sooo much FOR sooo many.

Hurst and DuPont, I think hold most of the blame.
 

vta

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Well the founding documents actually was not produced on hemp ... but nice post. I only recently learned that myself on this site.

QUOTE....the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp.

Maybe:dunno:
 

Hash Zeppelin

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it makes me sick to think about all the oil we have drilled and old growth forest we have cut down when we could have been using hemp this whole time. We have destroyed the planet by refusing one of natures most useful gifts.

we have wasted billions of dollars on drilling, and only to get this disaster in the gulf.

we grow cotton instead of hemp and get a shitty fabric instead of a good one. cotton requires way to many pesticides, and hemp requires none. also the fabric in hemp is 10 times softer, and ten times stronger. This is because the fibers are much longer in hemp than cotton or wood.

we cut down forest and get a shitty weak product instead of a good one. paper from wood sucks compared to hemp. we could build houses out of composite material made from hemp too.

hemp grows a lot faster than cotton, wood, or corn. This makes it better for fuel too.

the seeds are full of protein, and are tasty when roasted and salted.

Hemp/ cannabis legalization could literally save the environment and economy.
 

vta

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Great point CronJohn....that aspect of the law needs more attention...maybe even ads directed to farmers. What are the hemp groups in cali? Farmer associations? They need to be advised that a vote for TC2010 is a vote for them.
 

pearlemae

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Industrial hemp if legalized would help, noticed I said help, with a lot of todays problems environmentaly. Yes, you could make composite building materials and should, but the timber folks will fight that crying jobs, same with hemp oil a great substitute for diesel but can enough be grown to satisfy the demand? Don't know, but it would augment exsisting supplies while not screwing up the food chain like some biofuels seem to have done on the futures markets. It could help save the family farms perhaps, but ADM, Monsanto and the rest of the mega ag conglomerates are ready to do I'm sure. Yes let legalise and tax, let grow all the industrial hemp we can, everyone in the world does. MY:2cents:
 

Xtensity

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Great post, but by definition marijuana is a drug. Strictly speaking by the definitions, food is also a drug, video games, etc, anything that brings emotional stimulus, good or bad, to the brain is technically a drug.

Reality is a drug.

It's also very important to note that hemp, and cannabis are different. While they both may be cousins of eachother, hemp produces extreme minute amounts of cannabinoids and is not worth growing for any drug related reasons. So using hemp as an argument for the Medical Drug aspects of cannabis is not too much help. They never mandated growth of the drug back in the day, they mandated the growth of hemp.

If hemp growth is legalized, it does not mean marijuana or cannabis will be legal.
 

Texicannibus

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Great post, but by definition marijuana is a drug. Strictly speaking by the definitions, food is also a drug, video games, etc, anything that brings emotional stimulus, good or bad, to the brain is technically a drug.

Reality is a drug.

It's also very important to note that hemp, and cannabis are different. While they both may be cousins of eachother, hemp produces extreme minute amounts of cannabinoids and is not worth growing for any drug related reasons. So using hemp as an argument for the Medical Drug aspects of cannabis is not too much help. They never mandated growth of the drug back in the day, they mandated the growth of hemp.

If hemp growth is legalized, it does not mean marijuana or cannabis will be legal.

He was pointing out that cannabis (hemp) was also being addressed with this bill and as such could garner additional support wich I think was a excellent observation.
 

DrPoison

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Cool post vta.
Information like this and SO much more can be found in Jack Herrer's book "The Emporer Wheres No Clothes". If you havent already, check it out!

R.I.P. Jack Herrer
 

Hash Zeppelin

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Industrial hemp if legalized would help, noticed I said help, with a lot of todays problems environmentaly. Yes, you could make composite building materials and should, but the timber folks will fight that crying jobs, same with hemp oil a great substitute for diesel but can enough be grown to satisfy the demand? Don't know, but it would augment exsisting supplies while not screwing up the food chain like some biofuels seem to have done on the futures markets. It could help save the family farms perhaps, but ADM, Monsanto and the rest of the mega ag conglomerates are ready to do I'm sure. Yes let legalise and tax, let grow all the industrial hemp we can, everyone in the world does. MY:2cents:

If montasanto would switch over to hemp from corn then they might turn into a halfway decent company.

Also the timber, and logging industry are pretty much dead in America anyways. Loggers have cut down the majority of old growth tree's in America for good hard wood. It is time to let the young trees get old again and use hemp.
 

Preacher

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There have been a few bills put forth to legalize industrial hemp and only industrial hemp on a national level, and they're routinely killed. I'd love to see any attempts by our representatives to justify this; unlike opposition to smoking cannabis which has received logical opposition (ie bullshit evidence churned out by NIDA, studies recanted by the scientific community yet are still repeated, theories that sound solid until they're actually closely examined etc.) there is pretty much no way that even fearmongering could possibly justify a ban on industrial hemp.

An alcoholic beverage at least in my state is legally defined as having >0.5% alcohol in it, yet cannabis is banned and defined by its scientific name while being called its slang name. That seems contradictory to decency, common sense and even the single convention on narcotic drugs where we supposedly gain constitutional authority to ban the plant. EVEN IF we assumed the insane idea that the chemicals in smokable cannabis caused an epidemic of rape and insanity where the fuck is the justification for banning a plant that's insanely useful for economic purposes, where a smoker of it would sooner get a throbbing headache than a high?

I don't know, maybe they'll say there's been a rash of reports in Canada where industrial hemp has gained the abilities of animation and sentience and has started penetrating white women. Makes about as much sense as any other defense.
 
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