Show me cases of CHS where the cannabis is COMPLETELY clean of azadirachtin or neem.

[who dat is]

I used to use neem meal in my recipe when I first started but there were a couple times I thought I might have over done it and I think it negatively affected the taste. I was a newbie then. Ive been re using my soil ever since however I have never re-amended neem cake.

I spend a ridiculous amount of money on beneficial insects

I have probably mixed mine is as well but I mostly top dress it now. Like I said, the plants love it topdressed and it's a slow release N source which I like. The fungal growth goes crazy right on the surface.

 

[Mikell]

I have probably mixed mine is as well but I mostly top dress it now. Like I said, the plants love it topdressed and it's a slow release N source which I like. The fungal growth goes crazy right on the surface.

That slow release mojo gojo is just what I am after this year.

I have finally wrapped my mind around growing plants in nonartificial environments and am putting out a few plants in gorilla plots.

Just ordered a few quarts of Azasol in case of bugs. It is easy to get rid of the extra bottles on locals feening to bang some azadirachtin into their phloem.

Between that and raw neem oil it'll be the beezkneez I'll be banging black hash out all over the country come October.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

I used to use neem meal in my recipe when I first started but there were a couple times I thought I might have over done it and I think it negatively affected the taste. I was a newbie then. Ive been re using my soil ever since however I have never re-amended neem cake.

I spend a ridiculous amount of money on beneficial insects

What was your experience with CHS, using this method?

 

[Gr33nSanta]

not sure if I am too baked but I dont know what CHS is lol

 

[who dat is]

not sure if I am too baked but I dont know what CHS is lol

Cannabis Hyperemesis Syndrome

Check the first post in this thread

 

[Gr33nSanta]

haha, yep, too baked!! well I have no experience with CHS, all I know is my weed dont have residual neem because I do not use neem, I do not spray anything, ever. Bugs for the bugs.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

haha, yep, too baked!! well I have no experience with CHS,

Should you run into anyone with experience with it, please direct them to this thread. Ty.

 

[HemperorsKnight]

Doug I'm totally subbing there may be something you see that some of these blind cats keep bashing you for your threads purpose which is to see what's up with this chs shit i find it odd too...

The way I look at it is,
The food we eat is not even food but poison laced shit and ever since ag got taken over by ****s like monsanto there's been new diseases new disorders new allergies bullshit so let's look at our medicine and the growers horticultural practices like who makes the bottled fert lines that the majority uses and what exactly is the shit made of and does it have anything to do with chs and anything else with our overall health I look at the feeds non organic that is and the pest control methods and other practices aren't natural like think of how the ancient people cultivated there's and the other question is "were there any chs sufferers before humans stupidly fucked up how cultivation should be done" and I am not talking about synthetic lighting either only the shit that comes in contact with the plant and it's soil (rhizosphere)

I will be tuning in for more of your research into this chs blessings brother and one love

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Ty and good points.

Main goal, at this point, is to determine the differences between the aza and cannabis-only CHS. It seems to arise from both refined mineral and "all-organic" cannabis, not always concentrate related (so solvent based issue is out). I would love to find out it was caused by a single nutrient or pesticide, but it looks like it may indeed be possible to get it from *just* cannabis and not just azadirachtin.

I believe we need a larger sample and higher quality evidence from each instance. Eventually the truth will be known. I know there are a significant number of people suffering from this, the majority are unaware of the source.

Here's to truth.

 

[HemperorsKnight]

Ty and good points.

Main goal, at this point, is to determine the differences between the aza and cannabis-only CHS. It seems to arise from both refined mineral and "all-organic" cannabis, not always concentrate related (so solvent based issue is out). I would love to find out it was caused by a single nutrient or pesticide, but it looks like it may indeed be possible to get it from *just* cannabis and not just azadirachtin.

I believe we need a larger sample and higher quality evidence from each instance. Eventually the truth will be known. I know there are a significant number of people suffering from this, the majority are unaware of the source.

Here's to truth.

Exactly brother I am glad you are like minded we definitely will get some answers in time once we can articulate the exact cause of the "chs" symptoms I'm right here with you I'll see about taking this topic to other threads to maybe see if there's more people with any helpful information
Blessed be brother
One love
-Hemperorsknight

 

[rjrom90]

https://cannabispatientsalliance.org/2017/01/03/the-frenzy-over-cannabis-hyperemesis-syndrome/

An interesting point in this article where it mentions Eagle 20.

"A popular pesticide used on marijuana is Eagle 20. During pyrolysis (heating) its active ingredient myclobutanil turns into HCN (hydrogen cyanide). Workers exposed to myclobutanil have reported symptoms such as skin rash, allergic dermatitis, itchiness, nausea, heachache, diarrhea, abdominal pain, vomiting, nosebleed, and eye irritation."

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

https://cannabispatientsalliance.org/2017/01/03/the-frenzy-over-cannabis-hyperemesis-syndrome/

An interesting point in this article where it mentions Eagle 20.

Now THAT is interesting... I know of people who won't touch E20 cannabis, due to allergies, but the few I've run into haven't complained of CHS yet. Very small sample size though, so not surprised.

 

[Mikell]

Allergies to hydrogen cyanide?

That's the bullshit logic this thread and you produce.

Combusting clean cannabis produces more hydrogen cyanide than spraying myclobutanil at harvest.

And to you clowns encouraging him, thanks. Now we know to disregard your opinions as well.

 

[rjrom90]

Allergies to anything present in the consumed cannabis can cause cyclic vomiting. The article also discusses allergies to turpenes as well as neem. The point of the article is only that further research needs to be done on the subject.

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/digestive-diseases/cyclic-vomiting-syndrome

How can a person prevent cyclic vomiting syndrome?

A person should stay away from known triggers, especially during the well phase, as well as

get adequate sleep to prevent exhaustion
treat sinus problems or allergies
seek help on reducing stress and anxiety
avoid foods that trigger episodes or foods with additives

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

(edit: Was thinking about this post, figured it needed clarification when I got back to a computer)
Should you have to speak to doctors about your CHS, do NOT mention cannabis to general practitioners or emergency room personnel(edit: unless of course you know it's from cannabis). They'll simply give you some nausea meds and a couple pain pills and send you home, telling you to Stop using cannabis and Eat a bland diet for a while." Very not helpful(edit: especially if you're acutely aware it's not from cannabis itself).

The goal is to speak to the professionals. Let the gastroenterologist know about your cannabis use and be as specific and accurate as possible. Their training is also not helpful but with enough people re-educating them, things will move along in the medical industry.(edit: With enough people reaching this stage of treatment, the truth will slowly trickle up the medical information path) Talking to ER personnel or general practitioners is generally the direct route to mistreatment.

YMMV

 

[Cannabologist]

Wellll...... That's just the thing Doug when it comes to actual real CHS, or any other problem or allergy one could or would experience from using cannabis......... You have to stop using it if you want the symptoms to abate and ultimately go away...

There is nothing anti-drug, anti-cannabis, or propaganda laden about this fact.

It simply sucks for you and those people who suffer from such problems from cannabis ingestion.

It's a true fact that many doctors suck. I have had this problem myself when it comes to ailments. You unfortunately have to "doctor shop" to find a "good doctor"...

It's sad but true, I may not be a surgeon like some of the doctors I have visited and have the skill to cut someone open and sew them back up again, but I simply know more and have more knowledge than them in many regards to physiology and some of the latest techniques and therapies when it comes to particular diseases/illnesses or injuries.

This advice figures for any kind of illness or injury;

You have to go around and find (a) doctor(s) who not only knows his shit, but has A.) treated people with your particular malady and B.) Treated them with a high degree of efficacy - in other words he fixed and cured a lot of people with his particular method of treatment for your particular problem...

And you have to find a doctor that REALLY CARES. That is really invested in YOU. Where they get off on making people better, on making YOU better. Again, hard to find.

This is actually not an easy thing to find and usually requires going through many specialists I've found. Many doctors can pass tests but they just don't know wtf they are doing and don't often keep up to date with the latest stuff once they get out of school, and insulate themselves from wrongdoing or their natural fuckups in this regard; the business is naturally insulated in that way as it is....

Of 2 of the last doctors I've had, one was fishing me for info on how I lost all this weight and fixed a lot of my body and other associated problems with that. DERP a healthy diet and lots of exercise! Cut the fucking sugar out, up fiber, protein, and fat. 2+hours of vigorous working out daily. IF you are serious and want to lose weight and reverse the damage you've done to yourself - it's not rocket science, it's nutritional science... Science most doctors don't learn at all.. The last doc I saw was trying to put me on seizure meds for pain, and any of those class of meds if you have no history of seizures guess what? There is a high likelihood that they will give you seizures, especially if you try to stop using them. WTF why not just give me morphine asshole at least that works and usually the worst that happens going cold turkey is you get the flu!... And had NO IDEA about anything to do with steroidal injections for treatment of injuries like the ones I have, or regenerative medicine therapies, barely knew about anything, calling such therapies "non-traditional". This is the head anesthesiologist for the department at the hospital.. HUGE major hospital in a major city where I live mind you, top place in the country, in the world!! OK!!!.. WTF doc you have a whole nother wing in the damn hospital devoted to physical therapy that does trigger point injections!! Guy there didn't know much either heh tisk tisk and last time anyone did anything like that there was over a year ago and I got a referral for someone out of state with more experience. Still looking for the wizards with more brains than I do to fix myself.

So God knows you gotta always trust yourself first. But there are good docs out there..

Maybe I should go to med school... Ugh.... ... yeah F that.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Then I decided to give the above, ignored, post a look. Barf.

 

[Cannabologist]

Well what do you want, doug? If weed is making you sick, stop smoking it. If sugar is making you fat, stop eating it and exercise more. If you drink too much, stop drinking. If you can't read, learn

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Not falling for it. You're permanently on my ignore list.

 

[Mikell]

Let's pull a string.


Back up your claim that azadirachtin is absorbed into resin.

I dare you. Double dog dare.