Severe Depression

[Moe Funk]

It's called tough love my homies and it's what OP needs.

The loss of a loved one is heartbreaking and very very difficult and mourning their departure and the sense of loss is only human and I do feel for my brother Jibman.

But this thread from what I can see is about severe depression that he has had since he was a kid and always being down on himself since then, correct? And then lots of other peeps came in a said they've had depression for however long and it's so bad and so tough. And everyone says oh I'm so sorry man hang in there it'll be ok. Those are pussy ass comments that are only gonna reinforce that behavior and give him comfort. That's what my comments are speaking to.

The bottom line is if you are being down on yourself and feeling sorry for yourself and can't find the motivation to get out of bed or don't go outside for 2 years and if just simple showering takes all the effort you can muster, which several people said these kind of things, that's a damn problem and should be unacceptable.

That's the issue I'm speaking to and I stand by what I said 100%

Yeah it's kinda dickish to say and yeah it probably stirs up anger and it fucking should. But it's goddamn true.

And being around people less fortunate than yourself is a great way to start seeing that you actually have more going for yourself than you thought. And helping them reinforces that you have something to give.

And ddddaver, yeah man considering most docs would put homie on antidepressants I would say stay away from them. Serotonin reuptake inhibitors are some nasty nasty drugs that have horrible side effects mentally and physically. I know personally that the docs don't know shit and what they have to give in most cases will not help and in fact will make things worse.

Someone with depression just needs to find some motivation to start living. Until they do in my opinion they are just being fucking lazy ass slugs and if you're one of those people, know that that's what I think of you, and I look down on you for it.

Now stand your ass up so that I and the rest of the world can look up to you.

 

[Goatstroker]

...know that that's what I think of you, and I look down on you for it.

Wishing you all the best.

 

[Moe Funk]

It's cool I don't expect everyone to see that this is coming from a heartfelt place. Only the smart ones are gonna see what is obvious.

 

[Goatstroker]

Projection is wonderful.

 

[DAT]

Moe you are being very ignorant. Depression is a disease. You are born with it. If you do have it you have to come to terms with the fact that it will never go away. There are band aids that might temporarily relieve the depression ... counseling, meds, art, exercise, but it will always be with you , some way some how you have to learn to cope and understand that is who you are and will always be and that is how it is for U.

Sorry about your mom Jib. your wise in your decision not to want to be around Cancer in anyway. it sucks!! ur on the right track , you know what will cause you more grief and know to stay away from it.. now keep trying for something else that you think might make you feel better for a bit.. Seriously have you ever tried art? its very therapeutic.. you don't need to try to be "good" at it, just play around some paints or pencils and markers just for fun. Take care!!!

 

[Moe Funk]

Moe you are being very ignorant. Depression is a disease. You are born with it. If you do have it you have to come to terms with the fact that it will never go away. There are band aids that might temporarily relieve the depression ... counseling, meds, art, exercise, but it will always be with you , some way some how you have to learn to cope and understand that is who you are and will always be and that is how it is for U.

That is disgusting man I'm sorry but way to make someone feel hopeless.

Coming from someone who used to have pretty severe depression I can tell you that is absolutely 100% false. Depression is nothing but a habitual state of mind and the mind can do just about anything. You just gotta learn how to use it.

 

[Goatstroker]

That is disgusting man I'm sorry but way to make someone feel hopeless.

Coming from someone who used to have pretty severe depression I can tell you that is absolutely 100% false. Depression is nothing but a habitual state of mind and the mind can do just about anything. You just gotta learn how to use it.

Then enlighten us, Doctor.

Or are you just a clueless twat? Just asking questions here, I've already been diagnosed as having sub par intellect by the good Doctor Funk, so I need a lot of explaining.

It seems the good Doctor Funk is suggesting hateful and derogatory berating as a therapeutic resolution to major chronic depression. Well fuck you, you lazy piece of uneducated trailer park shit, why don't you have a doctoral degree like the good Doctor Funk? What the fuck is your problem, maggot? NOW PUSH!!!
Oh sorry, flashed back to basic training for a second. Am I on the right track though, Doctor? Maybe we should be hitting folks too, my parents always believed it to be a good "motivator"

 

[Moe Funk]

Well brother Goatstroker that's not exactly the track I was on but that's not a bad starting point towards my view tbh.

I will tell you this basic training will most certainly put some fire under your ass. Notice people that go through basic training go from undisciplined losers to competent confident disciplined effective soldiers, and pretty damn consistently so there is something to the method. My brother went into the marines and the difference from when he went in to when he came out was night and day. Even 20 years later the guy is a hard ass worker and very disciplined and he was a lazy fuck before he went in. That experience changed him on a deep level because he was pushed past his limits and saw that he was capable of much more than he thought. And I do think that many people who suffer from 'depression' would greatly benefit from enlisting and many would likely be 'cured'. Why? Because they break you down and then build you back up stronger. Now of course there's the whole issue of being a soldier and going to war which kinda sucks too because of the likely ptsd and memories of killing people and other horrors of war. But the basic training itself would be very effective.

Nothing changed for me until I got disgusted with and fed up with the way I was living and decided I had to raise my standards because I realized that if I didn't my life was gonna suck, and said I'm better than that. Only then did I start to push through and climb and work and strive for more. But it takes work and you gotta find a way to light the fire under your ass otherwise how are you ever gonna get up and start making it happen?

And it was also finding something to be passionate about and I have several things I'm passionate about now but it started with growing weed. I always hated work. I hated the thought of working to make money just to live. I hated having to be somewhere I didn't want to be doing something I didn't want to do at I time I didn't want to do it. It took my freedom away and I was very angry and I didn't like life and I felt like it was all pointless and was going nowhere.

Then I found growing and fell in love with it. And the more I did it the more I wanted to learn, and so I started studying different techniques and learning about all the different strains and I started to desire all the possibilities that were beginning to open in my mind. So I became motivated to start trying these techniques I did soil then hydro then coco, then vertical, then I was into organics. I was motivated like a mofo and I never felt like that before and it felt good to be growing and learning and gaining experience. All of a sudden 'work' wasn't work anymore and I could spend 12 hours straight working and it didn't seem like it. I'd finish working and what did I do? I went online and started reading more stuff. Not because I had to but because I wanted to. I was driven to.

After a while I realized that you ain't living unless you're growing and if you're not growing then you're dying. I was dying before and I hated the world and didn't want to do anything or know anyone. I just wanted to sit and fucking watch tv or distract myself some other way.

And I'll still veg out in front of the TV or computer but I do that now for enjoyment and relaxation, but I'm also real active and do things I enjoy and have love and passion. I feel competent and confident in many areas because I worked on myself and got momentum. And I don't see it stopping anytime soon.

My point I guess is you gotta get up and start doing something. And if you're in a rut and been there for a while then you gotta start pushing buttons. Emotion is a strong motivator. Especially anger. It's a good starting point just point it in the right direction. Hence my first post.

 

[Weird]

moe funk. You are wrong, the statements ignorant at best. I will educate you before I neg rep you which was my initial instinct, BUT because there are two sides to this coin I will share a little enlightenment for all.

There are several biological mechanisms that regulate our happiness (they are all yet fully understood). For example, remove certain acids and vitamins from your diet and you will not process the seratonin within your body.

likewise our behaviors influence our neurology.

So yes, we can manifest depression with and by our behavior but even then it can still become a neurological manifestation.

 

[Wendull C.]

Moe dick You should have that published in a psychiatric journal man. Sure they would love your know it all brilliance. Or maybe become a motivational speaker.moe

 

[theother]

Oh ya, moe got confused. Look if you suck at life and your environment goes to shit you will be depressed, fix the shit you suck at and you won't be as depressed. That's not a depression per say, that is a depressive symptom to an environment.

A clinical depression moe is physiological, the brain malfunctions in one of several ways, if you had been unfortunate enough to be born with this pre existing physiological condition improving your environment would have a very small impact on the overall PHYSIOLOGICAL condition.

Look moe, not trying to be a dick, but people like me and you need to not tell people like this to "just get over it." It's insensitive, ignorant, and certainly in no way helpful to them.

 

[Goatstroker]

Are you really telling me about what enlisting is like? Interesting.

The admission of your projection is equally as entertaining to me, thank you for that.

I appreciate your intent and you might notice a trend among posters who feel similarly regarding the need to get moving/involved, including my previous posts. I guess where we differ is in the motive. You seem to feel as though berating someone will motivate them to prove you wrong. I believe this is incorrect.

In the military, I was motivated not by being beaten and berated, but by being shown that I was a part of a much greater team who relied on me individually just as much as I relied on them collectively. "I am a warrior and a member of a team". I didn't thrive in the military because I had something to prove, I was Command waivered to Specialist before I had enough time, and put in a Sergeant slot immediately after because I am a dedicated man and I was a very powerful Soldier. I did it FOR others, not in spite of them.

But guess what? That didn't work either. I was so caught up trying to save everyone else, I neglected myself. I was injured and became sick, so much so that I could no longer Soldier and was separated. Since spite doesn't seem to work, and this whole being useful/helpful/contributive thing didn't pan out in my experience either, so what's left?

In my experience, selfishness. My selfishness led to me growing cannabis, and that brings me happiness.
Selfishness also led to me reading, which led to me reading Adam Smith's enquiry, The Wealth Of Nations, which concreted my belief in selfishness for the greater good of others.

I would love to smartly paraphrase Mr. smith's sentiment on the subject in the book, but I'm afraid I would do him a disservice if I tried.
Basically what I believe is that happiness comes from the inside out.

While I understand the concept of false motivation being better than no motivation (HOOAH), I think we can get there on a more positive wavelength, if ya dig.

Peace

 

[Jibman]

art is cool i guess. dont know how so its not something i do.

i fell asleep for a few hours. i tried to smoke some flowers that i have saved from previous grows but it just makes me more depressed.

thx for suggestions

 

[Jibman]

i was going to take a trip but i dont really want to go anywhere like this and i dont know anyone anymore so i try to not go

 

[DAT]

JIBBY! great to see ya back!!!
ok just start off drawing a pot leaf and then another and then another.. or how about a trichome.. then another trichome and another trichome.. it don't need to make any sence .it will be fun!!! give it a go.cum on 4 me?please.

 

[Goatstroker]

What do you like to do, Jibman?

 

[Jibman]

i liked to cook but cooking for oneself all the time gets kind of old.

i guess all i did was grow and now i don't know how anymore. everything dies

just don't feel like doing all that much anymore

now i take pills when i have them and drink. smoke some but not much anymore

 

[Goatstroker]

i liked to cook but cooking for oneself all the time gets kind of old.

i guess all i did was grow and now i don't know how anymore. everything dies

just don't feel like doing all that much anymore

now i take pills when i have them and drink. smoke some but not much anymore

I was going to recommend cooking because it's something I've done some and enjoy, but I wasn't sure if it would interest you.

Part of my selfishness now involves better nutrition, so I invest my energy sometimes into locating and preparing healthy and delicious food. Maybe you could do the same, but videotape it to share on youtube so you wouldn't feel so alone. You're online anyway, why not?
I would love to sub your channel and I'd be excited to video response myself cooking something healthy and delicious.
I just got a bitchin' stand mixer so I'm all about this.

 

[Jibman]

i dont really have anything to offer on youtube.

wouldnt want to be so public anyways.

 

[Goatstroker]

How about here then?

Just post up what you're up to and maybe show some pics, that'd be great and definitely something I would like to participate in if you started it.