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Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread

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Jhhnn

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To you or I it looks special with that beautiful cinnamon red color and green tips, but to most young people today, they are looking for rock hard round fat buds. This stuff looks like stringy loose shawggy fluff.
To me it is the exact texture, look and smell of the first Thai Stick I dissected a long time ago and never forgot. I said then and I say now, "so that's why they tie it to a stick".
I can see why as time passed you saw less and less of this type of home grown farmer weed from Thailand. Who but an un-greedy Thai, Cambodian, Mexican peasant farmer who probably use them medicinally or spiritually, could grow plants like this that flower for extended periods that they require to be *Special* When the big guy's started realizing there was real $$$$ they sped up the process and quality went down fast. It happened in every country of origin of the greatest strains I remember from the past.
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That is not me, but those look EXACTLY like the first Thai Sticks I saw. This guy in the video says he found them up in a cabin in Yosemite. I smoked my first Thai Stick in Modesto, it's on the way to Yosemite. I would not doubt for a moment that these were the same sticks I first sampled in the 70's.

I think it's important to remember that those Thai, Mexican & Colombian growers had to increase production enormously for us to even see much of their product here at all. It's a huge cash crop in the traditional hash producing regions of the world, as well. It's always been about money at some level or another, about the price of scarcity. It pays a lot better than growing corn.

I'm no world traveler, but I think a lot of traditional strains are still out there in small plots all over the world, spared in the WoD. It's just that the organizations putting it all together to mass produce it & deliver it to market are defunct or switched to another product, like cocaine in Colombia or heroin in Afghanistan. It's just hard to find the stuff at any distance from its origins in remote hamlets & villages. It's no longer grown for mass marketing, at all.

OTOH, like farmers everywhere, those who do so commercially were eager to adopt higher yielding shorter flowering strains, particularly when the threat from choppers is real. I have no idea what the price of wholesale cannabis is in Mexico, for example, but price differentials obviously aren't sufficient to bring some of the old strains back into commercial production, or they would be.
 
This is one of the best threads available, choc-a-bloc with amazing details.

My question is: What is the difference between the weed in Thai brick versus Thai stick? Are they different strains?



And for the real experts: How many plants does it take to make one 500g brick? Just wondering ... :biggrin:
 

wallywombat

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good to see all you young fellas posting in here (makes me not feel like the only one)looking beautiful as always bushy much love !
 
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Yo wallywobat we're obviously real canna connoisseur's and not ya typical kush crazy kids.
 
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tjo

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the name of this thread is:

REVIVAL OF THE ULTIMATE SATIVA...please keep it clean
from bull shits..i dont care how old a member is..
thanks in advance:tiphat:
 

bushweed

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Afropips Malawi Gold...
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Bushweed - do you have a favorite or two from all the crazy landraces you've been growing?

I'm really a Thai lover, particularly some of the old schools Thais; Meao Thai, MM, Thai'78, few others....this MMxThai'78 is a month too early to be picked, but I've been smoking immature samples and it's perfect - taste, high, duration, slows down time and leaves an indelible feeling of joy in the heart.
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I also like a good Oaxacan, among other sativa & haze hybrids...Nevil and Charlie Garcia are the guys I'd hit up if I was looking for old school sativas...then Sam, Chimera, dubi, Donald, Tom, some underground collectors. Like that...
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satva

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Nevil and Charlie Garcia are the guys I'd hit up if I was looking for old school sativas...then Sam, Chimera, dubi, Donald, Tom, some underground collectors. Like that...

Anyone, where does BCO fit in? Black Haze, Colombian Black, Colombian Goldbud, Highland Thai, Hmong Hilltribe Thai, Panama Red, Haze, all the right regions. Colombian Gold, Highland Oaxacan, and Hmong Hilltribe Thai - a party waiting to happen, or too wild and untamed?

In my closet, Destroyer is the ultimate, then Chimera's Highland Guerrera/BB , now where's that Red Snake?
 
Nevil and Charlie Garcia are the guys I'd hit up if I was looking for old school sativas...then Sam, Chimera, dubi, Donald, Tom, some underground collectors. Like that...

Anyone, where does BCO fit in? Black Haze, Colombian Black, Colombian Goldbud, Highland Thai, Hmong Hilltribe Thai, Panama Red, Haze, all the right regions. Colombian Gold, Highland Oaxacan, and Hmong Hilltribe Thai - a party waiting to happen, or too wild and untamed?

In my closet, Destroyer is the ultimate, then Chimera's Highland Guerrera/BB , now where's that Red Snake?

I´ve done a lot of BCO´s work... Colombian gold, colombian black, soulfruit, meximellia, colombian gold x haze, haze, and purple haze..... if youre not willing to go past 20 weeks, forget ALL colombian lines.... and pure haze lines as well, ...
 

rik78

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sorry guys for the newbie question but, is BCO = Breeders Choice Organisation??

if not, what is BCO??
 

Elmer Bud

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This is one of the best threads available, choc-a-bloc with amazing details.

My question is: What is the difference between the weed in Thai brick versus Thai stick? Are they different strains?

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And for the real experts: How many plants does it take to make one 500g brick? Just wondering ... :biggrin:

G`day Shok

I pulled apart a brick while in Thailand .
Looking for seeds .
The buds were nothing like the plants Bushie is showing . In those pix .
Much more like his Thai Stik plants . Very fine little flowers . What I would call tips , rather than heads . Found a few seeds , no stalks .
Very little resin visible through a loupe.
Judging by the density of the flowers I would reckon 3 or 4 maybe more plants to make a pound . They were very , very sparse little flowers .

Then we smoked it . 1st impression was Whaaa ? Doesn`t even touch the sides . What`s all this talk about Thai weed about ?
Then after about the 3rd pipe I looked over at Donald to see how he was faring,and he looked as wrecked as I felt . I asked him how you goin ?
And said "I`m glad we haven`t been drinkin booze "...


Thanks for sharin

EB .
 

2 Legal Co

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Elmer Bud

My recollection is the same as yours, fine flowers, no big colas.

I only saw it once, it came out of a dufflebag straight out of Nam in the early 70s. We were in Ft Riley Ks, a Field grade Major (E6 pay grade), brought in a duffle that had a wonderful core to it. Now that was a party. He'd sent a Huey over to see PapaSan. Said it cost him $5.00 US,,,, and half the bag to the pilot. lol Wrecked for a week.
 

Donald Mallard

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Im finding the hmong thai has reasonably developed flowers in comparison to what we saw in that brick eb ,
fairly good heads on her ,
with a nice golden color forming now ..

ive been a bit slack but ill snap a shot next week ...

the brick weed i saw in thailand recently ,
was quite a bit greener than we had seen last time,
fresher samples ,
112 grams for 2500 thb , cant beat those prices ..

still had that soaring high,
nil sleepiness ,, just an urge to go and do something ...
 

hoffman25

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bushy,

that malawi looks bangin, have you dipped down and tried it yet? fairly similar to some swazi which ive got on the go atm with the same leaflets and purple/red stems...
I wonder how the potency stacks up against those thais? Have been sampling the early swazi which is probably still a month away from finishing, the high is super electric like really strong esspresso,
but can leave you scattered and confused, great for outdoor activities but not much else. Definatley the most ultimate sativa in my collection for both vigour, flavour and high, just have to be patient....
 

bushweed

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Hi man, the immature Malawi sample from a bigger sister was very strong and cerebral, perhaps a little bit spacey and unfocused, but long lasting. Actually very similar to your description of the Swazi. The growth has been as vigorous as the Thais but the branches are more flexy and bendy, so requires tying. Definitely not as sweet in the flowers, more of a sweet floral perfume. Can't give a true report or compare with others yet because it was a pretty crappy browned-off sample, but the overwhelming impression was old school African power.
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ThaiBliss

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Hi,

I posted this before, and it may have been in this thread, but I met an elderly grower from Hawaii who told me that the old school Hawaiian that was widespread was Cambodian Red crossed with African Swazi. He did say that there was a variety of strains, and most were originally from S.E. Asia and Africa.

ThaiBliss
 

bigbag

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puffin' some fresh, 16 wk ( 8 wk indoor/8 wk greenhouse to finish )Reeferman Super Silver Haze ( elite SSH clone from the north of Holland x multiple SSH males ), Columbian phenotype. skunky cat piss smell/taste, crazy up high that's a bit racy and gives that "headband" feeling around the brows. can't wait till she's got a good cure on, if it's this good green...;)
 
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