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reply from a Congressman

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Guest

:dueling: What bullshit, I can't believe he sent me this. I have already replyed, if anyone would like to post responses feel free. I may copy and paste some reply's to him about any medical facts posted here 'links wolud be helpful as well. I think we need to show our disapproval to congress. :dueling:



Thank you for contacting me with use thoughts on medical marijuana.
I appreciate hearing from you on this sensitive issue.

To date, the states of Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine,
Maryland, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington have passed laws
legalizing the use of marijuana for medical purposes. However, marijuana
use is still illegal under federal law. Whether or not marijuana is considered
safe for medical use is still a matter of debate. The National Academy of
Sciences' Institute of Medicine has conducted a study addressing the
scientific base of marijuana used for medical purposes and found that
marijuana delivers harmful chemicals to the blood stream, causing various
destructive reactions. Because marijuana plants contain variable mixtures of
biologically-active compounds, it does not provide a precisely defined drug
effect. Until a drug can be developed that can be chemically-defined, the
National Academy of Sciences does not recommend smoking marijuana for
medical purposes.

As you may know, H.R. 2087, the States' Rights to Medical
Marijuana Act, was introduced in the House of Representatives on May 4,
2005 to amend the Controlled Substances Act. Specifically, this bill would
allow marijuana to be prescribed and administered for medical use in those
states that have made it lawful by state law. This legislation would prohibit
the provisions in the Controlled Substances Act from restricting marijuana use
for medical purposes, a doctor prescribing or recommending its use, or a
pharmacy from stocking marijuana. While I have always been a strong
supporter of state's rights, I believe the scientific evidence clearly
demonstrates that the negative side effects of marijuana outweigh its potential
medicinal benefits. Please be assured, however, that I will keep your thoughts
in mind as Congress continues to examine and refine our nation's drug laws.

Many Americans have different views on this complicated issue, and
I regret that we do not agree. I am confident, though, that are many other
issues on which we do agree. Again, thank you for contacting me. I hope you
will remain in touch in the future on other issues of importance to you.


Sincerely,
Gary G. Miller
Member of Congress

 
"Because marijuana plants contain variable mixtures of
biologically-active compounds, it does not provide a precisely defined drug
effect. Until a drug can be developed that can be chemically-defined, the
National Academy of Sciences does not recommend smoking marijuana for
medical purposes."

Read-untill my rich friends in the pharmacutical industry can wield monopolizing patents on cannabanoids and overcharge sick people for them...
 
The county in California where this Miller guy represents is probably the most backward county in the state(at least politically, they do have lots of nice shopping malls and girls with fake tits.) I won't mention what county it is, anyone can figure it our for themselves, but my advice is that any growers that live in this county should beware because if the DEA will be granted access it will happen here first.
 
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Guest

Glad I never became legal, cause now i'd be scared that they're comming to get me.... at least they have to HUNT for me, too bad for all those folks that trusted their government and put their names on a list....... suckers.


THC
 
G

Guest

Suckers? did you ever read the law about medical MJ?

If you got your medical exemption and did not file with the state as required, your exemption isnt worth the paper it was written on since you did not follow protocol in registering. Therefore in court your medical use defense is null and void.

Either way the new HIPPA laws prevent the DEA or other agencies from obtaining medical records without the patients signature.

Everyone out there must Protect yourself, However do it in an educated matter. Don't just follow what your buddies say is the law. Afterall it's your ass on the line......Do your due dillegence or don't complain when you get busted by Officer Friendly
 
G

Guest

"If you got your medical exemption and did not file with the state as required, your exemption isnt worth the paper it was written on since you did not follow protocol in registering. Therefore in court your medical use defense is null and void"

I do not live in a med state, therefore i have not done any looking into the laws regaurding medical use. but you proved my point ... your names are on a list.... now is that list a medical document, or is it just a list that the state government maintains?



my GUESS.... and that's all it is.... is that these documents are not medical in nature and therefore any DEA assmunch out there that wants it can probably get it.... I hope that i'm wrong.

I still maintain that I'm glad that I never signed any forms, or moved to avoid the man due to my grass smoking.... though i had given it a lot of thought.

THC
 
G

Guest

and really i just said suckers as kind of a cheap shot at you guys that have been legal for almost 10 years now.... it's unfortunate, but this is how we've been doing it all along.

no hard feelings

THC
 

bartender187

Bakin in da Sun
Veteran
BenitoCereno said:
Read-untill my rich friends in the pharmacutical industry can wield monopolizing patents on cannabanoids and overcharge sick people for them...

Exactly... Yep... we cant sythenize it yet so its not safe to take. It would be insane to take it in its NATURAL form...

Im sendin a letter to that congressman.

THCAESAR said:
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my GUESS.... and that's all it is.... is that these documents are not medical in nature and therefore any DEA assmunch out there that wants it can probably get it.... I hope that i'm wrong.
THC

That would sure be a load of crap if it was a doctor/patient privelage... seein as... the doctor is the one that perscribed it to you.

peace,
 
It seems Benito hit it right on the head. This congressman is clearly in the pockets of drug company lobbyists. The drug companies have all the money, they do all the research, and they dictate the outcome of their "experiments". Until politicians stop taking the sides of the wealthy, I fear our country will continue to persecute those who disagree with the wealthy powers that be.
 
G

Guest

Why doesn't everyone wait until people on such a list start getting busted before spreading the terror. In California there are no state lists.
 
G

Guest

Tell him these org.s disagree with his opinion

Organizations supporting some form of physician-supervised access to medical marijuana include;

American Medical Association
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/13625.html

The American Academy of Family Physicians
http://www.aafp.org/afp/991201ap/2583.html

American Nurses Association
http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/medical/pot/ana.html

American Society of Addiction Medicine
http://www.asam.org/news/news10.htm

American Public Health Association
http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/MEDICAL/apha.html

World Health Org.
http://www.cannabislegal.de/studien/who/approach.htm

British Medical Association
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/cont...ll/316/7126/239

and many others
http://www.perkel.com/politics/issues/endorse.htm
http://www.mymarijuanagarden.com/Grow_mmj-journal.html

The world's leading medical journal, The Lancet, has repeatedly called for legalization and rebuked the government for exaggerated claims about health risks.
http://cfdp.ca/lancet.htm

The New England Journal of Medicine
http://www.druglibrary.org/olsen/MEDICAL/nejm.html

The "British Medical Journal" another leading medical journal has also taken a similar position.
http://www.thecompassionclub.org/library/bmj.html
 

junit

Active member
Wouldnt it be nice if somehow we could have all of the thousands of IC members in the US Write THIS congressmen in response to this letter to you. Id like to see his face when over 3000 letters fall on his desk all with a CC of his 1 letter to you. Then we can say...... your Right, WE dont agree.....

Peace

PS... Hey... did you send that picture along with the letter? :moon: <----- Thats basically what it would be saying.... lol im sure you didnt... just playin around.
 
Very good stuff Fredster...except that all those oganizations you mentioned are just tools of the liberal propoganda machine and the drug dealer special instest groups:moon: and stuff...lol. This is like the only way Miller could respond against Lancet, the BMA and the AMA, what a fucking joke...

I thank Jesus every morning that we have our Vioxx and Thalidamide approved by the FDA :woohoo:
 

BushyOldGrower

Bubblegum Specialist
Veteran
All of herbal medicine is subject to the same scrutiny then? People can't grow herbs for their own usage? Isn't that religious freedom? Do we need to prove that lavender is a healing oil to be allowed to use it or grow it?

What other plants are forbidden? Perhaps even an image of a marijuana plant should be illegal then? Sort of like child porno? After all the pictures could corrupt our youth!

What bullshit to let tobacco continue not as a medicine but as a poison when medical marijuana has to be further proven? How can you do that when the herb is class 1?

The hypocrisy is unbelievable and America is Babylon. The more you smoke da reefer the more Babylon fall. Marley :D

So break da law and save the planet. BOG
 

Xsmoker

Member
thanks fredster for the great links- I read the AMA one.

What b.s.

My friend and I were just talking today and he cannot give up tobacco cigarettes for the life of him and stated the things should be illegal. Then we laughed *at the irony* when we realized we couldn't smoke a joint if we had AIDs. Another problem is that Uncle Sam doesn't trust Americans to use MJ in a responsible manner (and of course this will need to be dictated to us in pages of black and white drivel). At least that was my take on the summary in the AMA link fredster posted.

By the way... had a helluva migrain a couple of weeks ago and I was amazed how my headache was eradicated as the drug took effect. Good stuff maynard.
 

junit

Active member
Another problem is that Uncle Sam doesn't trust Americans to use MJ in a responsible manner

I agree but being a matter of trust, im not sure its that.......Im fairly positive with the way the world works, its all driven by cold hard Cash. Even if MJ was given to us and we did not handle it responsibly...... What is the worst that could happen? a surge in the Fast food industry?.... Nappin will become a 100 billion dollar industry....Suddenly the people who are considered a DRAG on the economy are Positive members of Society. Doctors, Dentists ,etc. would be even more rich considering they charged for missed apointments.....I figure alot more people will space out and forget their commitments....Their would be a few more Cancer Paitents but i think that i would be balanced by the people who quit smoke Cigs and Smoke Pot. (If i couldnt have smoked pot, i would have never gotten off the marlbro wagon) Even if there was an increase in Cancer from MJ, Its just numbers to the government.... If they really cared i would think they would issue Medical Benifits much like our neighbors to the north.

ANd I think its has been confirmed......We are putting retired folks in spacecrafts and sending them into the sun. What a country.
 

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