Xiggi StarrdusT
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You can eat bee pollen to keep your immune system healthy and your allergies down.
if you really get technical like that its pointless
when the protozoa eats bacteria and poops out plant food. oops thats not vegan...
I'm sorry, am I the only one who finds the premise of vegan gardening a bit silly? I don't mean to offend, but you probably do more damage to the environment driving a combustion powered anything to the store and picking up a bottle of anything (in a plastic bottle no less) then you would by using some EWC or the like. Why the minutae?
One of the reasons I am looking into vegan gardening is in many ways to limit or exclude trips to the hydro or garden store
you need to be thinking of gardening with natural materials rather than "Vegan" "vegetarian" or any else like that. the whole world around you(even locally and even in the most populated cities) will supply your every need for gardening the best of the best. if you end up with bones left over from your meals, you can end up using those if you like, which does not require a trip to the hydro store. if not oh well there is other things that will substitute its place.
The only one that would give me pause would be replacing the crustacean meal. I have found it to be an important component for insect suppression. If there is a plant source for chitin and it is available in either organic or wild-harvested form (like Yucca for example) then I could/would drop that.
any way we could grow some sort of bug in mass, then murder them all to feed chitin to the soil/wormbin?
oops thats not vegan...
any way we could grow some sort of bug in mass, then murder them all to feed chitin to the soil/wormbin?
oops thats not vegan...
well I am sure vegans can keep bees. they just can't use the honey.
I'm not sure if they do keep worms or not, but they should not be harvesting castings, that is for sure. For vegans I would set them up with the worms in already in the soil, so you can feed them and use the castings without killing any. This works well with bokashi.
One working definition for 'soil' is that it is simply rotted/composted plant and animal material with shattered rock.
Let's face it,, vegans are stupid if they deny the positive role of worms and bees in the world. Nuff said
In looking at the information at the state's organic controlling board here, Oregon Tilth, as well as looking at sites discussing vegan farming/gardening, there is absolutely no admonition against the use of earthworm castings and as a matter of fact it is at the base of their soil management concepts.
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Here's an article that is re-posted or quoted on several vegan farming/gardening sites.
3.5 Prohibited as main sources of fertility
(a) Products of animal or fish origin (b) Manures, slurry or urine from any animals including livestock, sanctuary animals or
domestic animals (c) Worm compost (d) Human faeces and urine (e) Human tissues (f) Sewage sludge (g) Extracted peat (h) Materials containing GMOs or their derivatives (i) Radioactive materials (j) Synthetic fertilisers (k) Soluble fertilisers as the main source of fertility
you could go out collecting all the discarded shells of baby cicadas, that would be vegan, right?
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Oregon Tilth isn't a vegan organic standard, and M. Butterflies Katz who wrote the article that is just someone writing on the web who uses animal inputs, yet still calls it vegan. If you go to the Vegan Organic Network standard, you'll see the real deal:
vegan is a joke just like organic or natural growing. i can buy bottles of nutes and call myself "vegan". but think about all the petro and manpower it takes to get that. what if you self support your own personal garden? i still have to buy products from here and there, but i'm working on it.
The Vegan Organic Network has absolutely no regulatory or statutory status or powers. They're actually weaker than OMRI - no small feat.
Oregon Tilth not only is a regulatory agency within the state of Oregon but several other states have 'me too' statutes in place that basically state/mean 'We use the Oregon Tilth Statutes for this state'
There are a few other certification agencies - Vegan Organic Network is not one of those. They're simply a group of like-thinking people who are promoting an agenda and good for them.
However good their intentions may be and regardless of how strongly they hold those beliefs it doesn't make their members or their group deciders over anything other than what goes on at their farms and gardens.
CC