Please Help Diagnose Sick Plant in Budding Cycle

[bobman]

what are u using for up?

 

[DMTspice]

baking soda.

 

[bobman]

i would mix your nutes in advance. them let sit for a day then adjust. study your water a little. see what happens when you wait after doing certain things. give it a day after you pull it from the tap, then maybe wait a day after u add nutes, then maybe wait a day after u adjust. study the changes u see.

 

[bobman]

i do not know about baking soda, i dont know how well or long it holds ph in a range. you may want to study that further.

 

[DMTspice]

I've been using distilled water this entire grow.

Right now I'm using plain tap water that sat for 24 hours, no nutrients. Since I probably have PH lockout, another user recommended I stop feeding. So that's what I've been doing for the last several weeks.

Next step is the transplant too see if that helps. I'll post back with some results. Thanks for all the feedback, bobman!

 

[bobman]

i am interested in how those roots look. Stunted or over growing.

 

[bobman]

i dont think you should use distilled water. make sure u give them a real good dry cycle. something was stewing in there to throw ur soil off so much.

 

[Duplicate]

I've been using distilled water this entire grow.

Right now I'm using plain tap water that sat for 24 hours, no nutrients. Since I probably have PH lockout, another user recommended I stop feeding. So that's what I've been doing for the last several weeks.

Sounds like they need food!

 

[bobman]

wow, several weeks without food. they r probably getting hungry.

 

[DMTspice]

Based on my PPM readings, they have too much food, unless my meter is broken.

My nutrient runoff has been off the charts. Since I've been flushing with water, it's slowly coming down. This last flush PPM was 2500+. So I don't think they're hungry.

I think they have PH lockout as mynamestitch suggested, and she's not taking up any nutrients. They're just all building up in the soil. It's probably more of a nutrient toxicity issue than a nutrient deficiency issue. But I could be wrong. This is just based on what others have told me and my own observations.

 

[bobman]

how often are you flushing. I good flush should do the job. something does not sound right. 2500 ppm after a flush i dont know. I have never heard of anything like that.

 

[bobman]

i did not know people checked ppm of runoff in soil.

 

[DMTspice]

I've only done two flushes. I wouldn't lie to you. 2500 PPM after the second flush.

I think it's worth mentioning that there are nutrients in the soil. Did you read the first page of the post? The details of my soil composition are listed there. My soil is mostly complete, so if the plant really is hungry, it can pull nutrients from the soil. That's why I would find it extremely surprising if this is a deficiency.

Besides, when are crispy leaves most likely to occur, during toxicity or deficiency?

 

[DMTspice]

is checking nutrient ppm runoff not reliable?

If checking PPM nutrient runoff is pointless I was misinformed. Hell, I'm a complete newbie so I'm still learning.

 

[wrongwrong]

I've only done two flushes. I wouldn't lie to you. 2500 PPM after the second flush.

I think it's worth mentioning that there are nutrients in the soil. Did you read the first page of the post? The details of my soil composition are listed there. My soil is mostly complete, so if the plant really is hungry, it can pull nutrients from the soil. That's why I would find it extremely surprising if this is a deficiency.

Besides, when are crispy leaves most likely to occur, during toxicity or deficiency?

I'd say lockout and its caused a lack of Mg.. so I'd say some lime needs adding.. but on the first page it looks like zinc def.. I prefer a lower ph in soil 6.2-6.4 .. Also note that crispyness can be from lack of potassium... and that can be caused to be locked out by soda.. so get the ph down and don't use soda... have you tried to add lime/epsom salts and just water? good luck.

 

[DMTspice]

I haven't tried adding epsom salts yet. someone else recommended I do that. So that's my next move after transplanting.

wrongwrong, how do you feel about the transplanting idea? Sound good or should I just leave her in the same pot?

 

[RetroGrow]

Check your roots!
Don't use distilled water.
Silica to raise your PH.
But first, check your roots!

 

[bobman]

I've only done two flushes. I wouldn't lie to you. 2500 PPM after the second flush.

I think it's worth mentioning that there are nutrients in the soil. Did you read the first page of the post? The details of my soil composition are listed there. My soil is mostly complete, so if the plant really is hungry, it can pull nutrients from the soil. That's why I would find it extremely surprising if this is a deficiency.

Besides, when are crispy leaves most likely to occur, during toxicity or deficiency?

Sorry missed that. Did you add lime to your mix? Its been 15 years since i have worked with amended soil. I dont think I put you on a bad track though. Wrongwrong and retro probably have a little more knowledge here. i think you are heading the right way.

 

[DMTspice]

Sorry missed that. Did you add lime to your mix? Its been 15 years since i have worked with amended soil. I dont think I put you on a bad track though. Wrongwrong and retro probably have a little more knowledge here. i think you are heading the right way.

No worries man, you've been very helpful.

@RetroGrow- that'll be my next move.

 

[bobman]

Yea, the one thing i can tell you is if you did not use lime than that is probably your problem here.
My mentor back then always had me add a cup of lime when I was mixing up a batch. good luck