Pentagon Briefing: Vaccine to KILL Peoples Religious Fundamentalism !

[OkieSmokie]

I do believe in God and as a result of his creation we humans were given the ability to "believe" and the choice to do so or not.

Throughout the centuries humans, being evil by nature, have used the need to believe as a way to coerce others in order to advance their own agenda and to gain wealth and power. Many atrocities have been committed by humans in the name of "God". But I contend that God does not condone atrocities and just because people "various religions" use the name of God for their justification does not mean that they are right. Those very same religions, by their misuse of the name of God have caused many to resent or deny his existance.

If God does not exist, how then do we explain evil? The basic understanding of right and wrong is more than a mere social construct. It is inate in our beings. We intuitively understand that certain things are "wrong".

If there is no God who is good, then there is no Evil and therefore there is no wrong. If you dont get caught by a person who punishes you, then you are free to do whatever you like.

I think that each and every person who denies God's existance would still argue that certain things are inherently wrong. But I ask, why are they wrong?

Someone who truely believes that all is permitted and acceptable and proceeds to do all he desires, kills who he pleases, rapes as he pleases, steals what he pleases, etc... this person is a monster.

Now if you believe all these things are permitted and yet you hold back, why do you do so? What is it in you that causes your self-restraint?

 

[White Beard]

With all the best wishes in the world, I am NOT going to read your testimony/prayer/bible story.

Your bible may be a source for you, but not for me, and I’m not going to discuss anything as if the Bible were an authoritative source. I don’t have a problem with it, I don’t have a problem with those who believe it...’cept when they demand I treat their tales as truth.

I’m near 70, and I’ve had the Bible and the opinions and policies it supposedly supports rammed down my throat for almost all of those years. I’ve witnessed hypocrisy great and small, public and private, perfumed and stinking. My allergy to the Jesus-Free New-Model Christianity of today is severe.

I’m sure you won’t catch it, don’t worry

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

I do believe in God and as a result of his creation we humans were given the ability to "believe" and the choice to do so or not.

Throughout the centuries humans, being evil by nature, have used the need to believe as a way to coerce others in order to advance their own agenda and to gain wealth and power. Many atrocities have been committed by humans in the name of "God". But I contend that God does not condone atrocities and just because people "various religions" use the name of God for their justification does not mean that they are right. Those very same religions, by their misuse of the name of God have caused many to resent or deny his existance.

If God does not exist, how then do we explain evil? The basic understanding of right and wrong is more than a mere social construct. It is inate in our beings. We intuitively understand that certain things are "wrong".

If there is no God who is good, then there is no Evil and therefore there is no wrong. If you dont get caught by a person who punishes you, then you are free to do whatever you like.

I think that each and every person who denies God's existance would still argue that certain things are inherently wrong. But I ask, why are they wrong?

Someone who truely believes that all is permitted and acceptable and proceeds to do all he desires, kills who he pleases, rapes as he pleases, steals what he pleases, etc... this person is a monster.

Now if you believe all these things are permitted and yet you hold back, why do you do so? What is it in you that causes your self-restraint?

What is right and what is wrong is determined by laws within whatever nation you care to name - Some of those nations say their laws are determined by whatever God is worshiped and religion practiced within those nations which might be in direct conflict with the laws in other nations - so there is confusion globally as to what is right and what is wrong, what is good and what is considered as evil.

With all the best wishes in the world, I am NOT going to read your testimony/prayer/bible story.

Your bible may be a source for you, but not for me, and I’m not going to discuss anything as if the Bible were an authoritative source. I don’t have a problem with it, I don’t have a problem with those who believe it...’cept when they demand I treat their tales as truth.

I’m near 70, and I’ve had the Bible and the opinions and policies it supposedly supports rammed down my throat for almost all of those years. I’ve witnessed hypocrisy great and small, public and private, perfumed and stinking. My allergy to the Jesus-Free New-Model Christianity of today is severe.

I’m sure you won’t catch it, don’t worry

After studying the Abrahamic religions in some detail. I have come to the conclusion that mostly they are incompatible with a modern, forward thinking progressive egalitarian society.

egalitarian
[ih-gal-i-tair-ee-uh n]

asserting, resulting from, or characterized by belief in the equality of all people, especially in political, economic, or social life.

 

[Dog Star]

With all the best wishes in the world, I am NOT going to read your testimony/prayer/bible story.

Your bible may be a source for you, but not for me, and I’m not going to discuss anything as if the Bible were an authoritative source. I don’t have a problem with it, I don’t have a problem with those who believe it...’cept when they demand I treat their tales as truth.

I’m near 70, and I’ve had the Bible and the opinions and policies it supposedly supports rammed down my throat for almost all of those years. I’ve witnessed hypocrisy great and small, public and private, perfumed and stinking. My allergy to the Jesus-Free New-Model Christianity of today is severe.

I’m sure you won’t catch it, don’t worry

With all best wishes White Beard and sorry for psychoanalizing
your post but something was catch mine eye while i read it...


you mention "I" too many times,like you have problems with
your own ego so you need to repeat "I" too many times..

then you are now in 70ies,something tells me you need to dimm
your own personality cause you come to biological rippening of
conscioussness when person is close to event of moving energy
on another level,actually spiritual level..

One sincere question for you as i sees you readed a Bible before..

did you ever read a Bible whithouth using your own ego to
understand what is writed there??


Cause if you use self all the time,whithouth dimming or exclude ego
from understanding what is writed there then this book is definitly
not understandable at all for you... but if you exchange yourself
in a way that you dont use yourself for judging you could sees
a truth and a wise in stuff that was writed there..

that book is full of great advices if you can accept them..


Kind regards WB

 

[Weird]

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]maybe we can come to know true egalitarianism when people lose bias against personal religious views since their true meaning is analogous[/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Egalitarianism – or equalitarianism – is a school of thought that prioritizes equality for all people. Egalitarian doctrines maintain that all humans are equal in fundamental worth or social status. Egalitarianism is a trend of thought in political philosophy. One of the most notable examples is the Christian notion that God loves all souls equally. According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, the term has two distinct definitions in modern English: either as a political doctrine that all people should be treated as equals and have the same political, economic, social and civil rights; or as a social philosophy advocating the removal of economic inequalities among people, economic egalitarianism, or the decentralization of power. Some sources define egalitarianism as the point of view that equality reflects the natural state of humanity.

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[Gypsy Nirvana]

Ahhh, so religions created science and philosophy, and there was me thinking that it was human scientists and philosophers. <note, must do more research>

Everyone is bias in some way or another, an inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group.....is as common as muck. Mostly around here its about a President or a political party. It could be about a sports team a skin color or what brand of underwear you wear, we all have favorites and become bias because of it due to what we learn and experience individually, or what society 'expects' of us. - we have choice, so we have things we like, and things we do not like.

Personally, I do believe that there should be a healthy separation of church/religion and state, and an indoctrination free childhood for anyone under 18 years old. Religion should be X-Rated like a Tarantino movie and practiced behind closed doors - But hey, what do I know?.....one man's hocus-pocus is another mans holy trinity.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Please prove that the science and philosophy you extol where not created by the very religions you admonish
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[Weird]

Ahhh, so religions created science and philosophy, and there was me thinking that it was human scientists and philosophers. <note, must do more research

No, gnostic thinking is primordial science and philosophy and thus facilitated the mindsets to discover science and philosophy


the simple proof is in the backgrounds of the forefathers of such. Please show me science or philosophy born of someone who had no prior religious influence.


Maybe instead of answering a question with a question you could google the backgrounds of the people in question, it is called due diligence anything but is a bit reliant on the perception of others.

Everyone is bias in some way or another, an inclination or prejudice for or against one person or group.....is as common as muck. Mostly around here its about a President or a political party. It could be about a sports team a skin color or what brand of underwear you wear, we all have favorites and become bias because of it due to what we learn and experience individually, or what society 'expects' of us. - we have choice, so we have things we like, and things we do not like.

bias is not static, human adaptability is a facet of our intelligence and thus putting us on the top of all ecosystem as the apex organism



in essence what you are saying is that if you still feel a fear of snakes after that fear serves a biological benefit we cannot challenge it or change it


that very inability is not considered psychological sound thus the term phobia

Personally, I do believe that there should be a healthy separation of church/religion and state, and an indoctrination free childhood for anyone under 18 years old. Religion should be X-Rated like a Tarantino movie and practiced behind closed doors - But hey, what do I know?.....one man's hocus-pocus is another mans holy trinity.

I don't disagree with a separation of church and state but if you really think all governments are equally influenced by religion I can only shake my head.



Even those that use religious morality as a means of rule often do so outside the mainstream interpretation of that religion.



USA, Israel, Russia and many others but the atheist countries that report the highest amount of satisfaction are wealthy and balanced because of riches taken from other cultures by force end genocide so don't think morality is guaranteed without an engagement of morality regardless of source.



The saddest thing about this is that most people have their heads up their asses because their interpretation of all these topics isn't through thoughtful self discovery but through the sensationalized opinions of others with agendas.


Even religion discusses constant and relative morality in a more progressive manner the fact that it isn't expressed that way isn't the books but the people who think they understand them.


Funny you never get many people discussing their take on an opinion based on due diligence of information gathering, but that would require a genuine desire to understand something at the deepest level instead of judge it on the most superficial ones


can't fix true cause and effect if it is never revealed as such without the bias of self, which isn't too hard you simply to genuinely give a fuck about all people involved regardless of what you don't understand about them



seems to work out well enough for me

 

[HuffnPufferfish]

There are so many religious fanatics in the US military that such a virus would be useless.

the republicans are infecting us with anti god virus... but the republican side IS the virus

 

[HuffnPufferfish]

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If you consider apples squares you can claim thats your right of expression or whatever, but im gonna assume youre retarded or delusional
will we accept people who like to murder other people?

Even religion discusses constant and relative morality in a more progressive manner the fact that it isn't expressed that way isn't the books but the people who think they understand them.

if religion wouldnt change, it would have been banned as a dangerous evil sect... so the ones that stick around tend to change
if you would read the bible and act on it, you would be in jail before the days over, all abrahamic militant religious people are terrorists, im glad most people arnt really religious..

 

[Dropped Cat]

Now if you believe all these things are permitted and yet you hold back, why do you do so? What is it in you that causes your self-restraint?

I can kill, but I choose not to.
I can steal, but I choose not to.
I can rape, but I choose not to.

Discipline, training and study.

If your faith is so weak to rely on only one book and those who seek to
manipulate you through fear and after life reward, within the teaching of that book,
then I find you weak in your resolve.

If you believe that absence of those teachings you would
willy nilly rape and kill and steal.

I would pity you and your weakness.


lol

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

seems to work out well enough for me

It works out well for me too - knowledge will set you FREE!

 

[Klompen]

What I have learned through Theravada Buddhism is a better way of explaining morality than the typical supernatural reasoning model. One of the greatest skills of the Buddha was to spell out concepts we're all familiar with in very rational terms. Most people have a pretty good inherent moral compass, but the circumstances of life tends to distort and confuse that sense in most people as time goes by. The problem people run into is that they really don't understand the logic behind the instincts. Once you begin to see the interconnectedness of all things, its easier to understand how selfish impulse can be extended toward the greater good. We are part of a whole, and so working toward the betterment of that whole is actually working toward self interest. There's more to it than that of course, but at its core that is the logic that drives civilized behavior.

 

[White Beard]

I find most Americans to have very little idea of what any religion is about, even the one they practice. On a superficial level, at least, religion is like being on God’s team, showing up for God, doing the things they're told are the things that God want God’s team to do. It’s not animus, it’s provincialism. Being a member of the team. Being in the tribe. Belonging.

The thing with religion, there are the people who go to it, and the people who run it. It’s become pretty widely known that the Big Deal in most religions makes out like a bandit, and I myself was brought up short one time when I spoke with an elder of my church about feeling a call to the ministry. He was dismissive of my vocation, and said, “son, all that matters is, are you willing and able to keep the flock under control?” I had never witnessed such a thing before, the brazen show of an ugly reality, and I stammered that I had no answer for that, and he was gone, into the glad-handing crowd of appearance and charm and bullshit.

We never spoke again; instead, I watched and prayed as Christianity went big-time, pastors rolling in money, church members regularly fleeced, the fish movement that began an entire alt.christian ecosystem.

It took years, but the divide between reality and Christianity was created on the Christian side, and while I maintain a strong sense of connection to Jesus, and in fact seek to emulate him, I do not consider myself a Christian; I am quite sure that Jesus in the world today would likewise not consider himself a Christian. As expressed in the Bible, that is, not the ‘Brand Jesus’ pastors refer to when they want to tell you what HE would do, who HE would vote for, who HE loves, and how deep to dig when it’s time to pass the plate.

Funny thing, if you’ve actually read the Bible, you know that those guys are always wrong about what he would do. It’s not in their interest, it’s not in their script.

 

[acridlab]

u guys need jesus

watch 'genesis theory' on you boob.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

I think that 'Needing Jesus' is an option for those on long stretches in penal institutions to help convince the parole board that you might have seen the error of you're ways...

From what I was taught from a young age Jesus could create great miracles, turn loaves into fishes and water into wine - feed the hungry - heal the sick - but then he went and died for our sins - then popped up again a few days later.

So where has he been for the last 2k years while billions suffered - were enslaved - were sick - were starving and died? I'm sure that humanity could have done with a few more of his miracles.

 

[trichrider]

possible that vaccine/virus would affect this community also...or maybe cannabis could be an antidote to it.


we at times appear to be cult-like in our beliefs about cannabis, jmho

 

[Dropped Cat]

lol

 

[Dog Star]

Problem on Earth is that everybody have free choice... so people choose to not belive
in God nor they dont need a higher moral,they usually choose their own ego to
go thru life..

Thats why we have hell on Earth cause ego is psychopat and Satan usually...


You know those saying " What wolf do you feeding,good or bad??"


And people love to feed those bad wolf.. humans are evil by nature.. that a real fact..

 

[troutman]

Bill Gates like vaccines.

For all these people pushing vaccines. I would like to see their faces if their own families were publicly vaccinated
against their will and see how they react. I get a feeling they would be the 1st jumping up and down saying no.

Bill Gates Admits Vaccines Are For Population Control

Bill Gates on Population Control

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Its not that all humans are evil by nature - although we do posses the capability to be so - To be evil or not to be evil is a choice we make generally - because we have good and evil in all of us - and I choose to try and be good Dog Star - and also to make the decision that doing good things are better for me than doing bad - its a matter of conscience I suppose.

There again, doing what you feel is good might look bad to other people, and we are back to the fact that what is good and what is evil is questionable - dependent on where you might be in this world, and what laws try to govern you.

Problem on Earth is that everybody have free choice... so people choose to not belive
in God nor they dont need a higher moral,they usually choose their own ego to
go thru life..

Thats why we have hell on Earth cause ego is psychopat and Satan usually...


You know those saying " What wolf do you feeding,good or bad??"


And people love to feed those bad wolf.. humans are evil by nature.. that a real fact..