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f-e

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I thought we could have a look at what plug'n'play options there are for PC fans.

First some waffle about what they are.
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We often name them by the number of connections they have. 3 pin came first, and later the 4 pin. A 3 pin plug will actually plug into a 4 pin socket, as both have the same power pin locations. To make them run full speed, it's only the power pins (+&-) that need using. You need to pay attention though, as plug it in the wrong place, and the fans fried. https://allpinouts.org/pinouts/connectors/motherboards/motherboard-cpu-3-pin-fan-connector/

These fans are a nice safe 12V DC. Most of us will have a 12vdc power brick doing nothing. Most have a 2.1mm DC jack though.
Unfortunately I have the slowest VPN in existance, so can't even get an ali link up. A 2A 12V 2.1mm PSU is £3.99 delivered (5$)

Ali will sell you a 2.1mm to 4 pin adapter. Then a 3pin or 4pin fan can be plugged to the 12vdc adapter to work the fan.

At 2A, that PSU will run 24w of fans. If that's not enough, a laptop style brick commonly delivers 5A or even 10 if you wish. I have a 2A that's variable voltage, between 3v and 12v, giving fan speed regulation. Which is fine, but really we are using just 2 pins of our fan, and the others are tach and speed regulation, if we had better means of control.

Running more fans from a single PSU means buying a 4pin splitter. Be aware, that the leads of the splitter might only be 30cm long. So the fans can only be 60cm (plus the fans own ~20cm lead) apart. There are extensions available. I use splitters in a row, going fan to fan. I buy a 10 pack and just daisy-chain them.

These fans range from uselessly small, to 14cm typically. Rarely more than 10watt and most are not even 1watt.

A useful aspect of these fans, is the ease in which they can be summed up. You can stack them in a row, for additional shove. If a single fan can shift 40 foot of air, and sucks hard enough to lift water 1mm, them two such fans is still 40 foot, but now 2mm of lift. This is useful if making small carbon filters. You can chop a pringles tube to 50mm and fill it. Perforate the lids. Then stack a few little fans until it works.



For the more able, an old PC will give up a couple of fans and the PSU. You ground the green wire to bring it on. You can skip dive this sort of thing.


Does anyone know of an inline speed regulator for 3 or 4 pin fans? I have a 4pin one but it's output is a ratio of the pwm from the motherboard. I have no motherboard.. but these 10w variants really want to use proper control, not lower voltage. All these fans are EC fans so using them with lower voltage is a compromise you start to feel on larger models.
 

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More regarding an ATX PSU:
They don't have a fan power wire as part of the standard. They have 12v at a 4 pin molex connector. This is where many fans intercept the power. Here is such a 1$ lead
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002618063406.html

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If you need more, then molex splitters are as cheap.
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It has two molex connectors to use. You can also see the green wire on the long motherboard plug beside them. It's flanked by a black each side. This plug won't be used, so just cut the green and one of the blacks, then twist the two together. That is the power switch. You will never need it. Just keep them together.
 

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I know that 4way will rarely be long enough.
Walmart sprung connector (available all over the globe)
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0.5mm2 speaker wire is really cheap.
 

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Greenheart

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I found one on amazon that doesn't require the pc power supply and has a variable speed controller hooked up to a dc wall wart. The controller is 3v-12v with an off position. 2A max Should the fan fail I can always snip and splice a new one onto it. At $17 it was a score!

There is a lot of 5v and 12v options as well as splitter and pin adapters with pc fans. If I understand correctly with pc fans only 2 wires are needed to provide power and the 3 or 4 pin options send extra data to the pc for fan management purposes.
 

zaprjaques

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Nice find Greenheart ! I dig the controller a lot.
I hook my pc fans up with only 2 wires and i think youre right about the other wires, i'm no expert though.
 

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IIRC the 3 wire fan is +/- and tach. Any speed control is made by altering the 12v.
The 4 wire fan has the same 3 wires, and can have it's 12v lowered, just the same. However, in a typical install the 12v stays 12v. The 4th wire is pwm based speed control. It's another option. We can use either 3 or 4 wire as just a 2 wire fan.

I use the same 12v psu you do greenheart. I think my post went astray, as I wanted to share a link that joined a typical 12v PSU like ours, to a typical fan. My connection stalled though.
I have a link here, though not the same great price https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...exp_id=6241f65e-d1a2-439c-80d9-34cd949bf8b9-5

I have not seen a fan with a 2.1mm DC plug before. Pics of it seem to be drawings and examples. I hope it's not a screwed on plug :) https://www.amazon.com/Female-Power...0c5e9&pd_rd_wg=aKLQq&pd_rd_i=B01ER6QWAY&psc=1

For choice of fans and inter-connectivity, it's nice to use the 2/3/4 pin fan standard. I have about 20 fans in a meter, that have run on just one PSU before. I have to smile at the idea of 20 PSU's plugged in. It would be like Christmas again.
 

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