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"1-Production costs of everything would fall down sharply getting rid of poverty around the world. It can't happen because consumption would sky rocket and the planet's resources wouldn't last more than 100 years before turning itself into a wasteland. "
Nah nah nah nah nah......
"2-Population numbers would dramatically rise"
Not at all, as quality of life increases, education and intellect also increases. Spread of information would stabilise population growth i would say...
4-Whoever controls the energy, food supply, water supply, information supply and money supply controls the world and they would rather die before they would give that power away....This technology exists today but it will never see the light of day until it gets so big they can't hide it anymore.
Like i said in another thread "Dawn is coming, my darling".
Have a guess WHO this "darling" i speak of and i will give you K+ for a whole month
Bazarocka, I personally knew an older man in my teens who claimed to have developed an engine that ran on water in the early sixties. He was an older guy without childern (not gay but a real playa) and liked having the audience of an intelligent young man. Having seen his workshop, I don't have any reason to doubt him, I'd estimate easily a half million in equipment in his personal workshop. I'd seen a couple of engines and other projects he had built and even that shit blew my mind and I was one of the smartest kids around. He sold the "water engine" to an oil company (I won't name but he did) for 250,000$ in the early sixties. Being intensly curious I prodded him for details but he would never tell me any substantive details about that water engine, obviously afraid of the oil company 30+ years later. "If I told you, they would kill us both"
Sorry for going off the "Tesla" topic but I definately believe that "they" will keep any technology that threatens profit away from the masses.
Not at all, as quality of life increases, education and intellect also increases. Spread of information would stabilise population growth i would say...
Problem is, we cannot have free energy.
Reasons?
1-Production costs of everything would fall down sharply getting rid of poverty around the world. It can't happen because consumption would sky rocket and the planet's resources wouldn't last more than 100 years before turning itself into a wasteland.
2-Population numbers would dramatically rise also making Earth a time bomb (there is too much people as it is now (Also related to resources)).
3-Such technology in the wrong hands could be catastrophic, imagine some lunatic cult/dictator having the power to destroy Earth... Nuclear energy is nothing compared with the energy you get from time/ether/quantum (whatever the name is) itself.
4-Whoever controls the energy, food supply, water supply, information supply and money supply controls the world and they would rather die before they would give that power away. It's all about profit, trillions of it. See the example of wall street, the entire world will collapse before anything will ever happen to them.
I can only remember four of the reasons but I saw a long list of 40 reasons before. This technology exists today but it will never see the light of day until it gets so big they can't hide it anymore.
Hey, bro
Answer to these things is to; change the whole World System into such a system, that "no" 'exploiting of others' could occour.
When you take away private banking and money-hackling, BIG- corporate business and similar things , then the money-elite can't take things over any more, cause they don't have the money, see? ...so, whose gonna be someone's mercenary (army), when these bankers don't have any money to pay these killers?! ...see, where i'm going at with this?
You might say "this is communism", but actually THE Communism, Marx and these people ...they actually WORKED for the Capitalists. Rothchilds, warburgs, Jacob Schiff (loeb&kuhn) and these bankers, funded the bolsheviks into power ..and the whole 'cold war'. These same people also funded the Nazis ..or so someone, very convincingly, has said/writen.
... http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/
So no, this would NOT be Communism.
But something like..
- A global People's Society, with an UN -like governing body, but a "transparent" one = would allow sovereign nations to run their own culture and country, as long as Global (individual's)Human Rights would be respected.
There is actually NO NEED for 'governments or politics' as we know these today ..have you guys noticed this??!
Cause actually, when you think about our (global) society and how; "The food etc. get into the stores, and from there; to the consumers..." ...the whole world could be run as a one Company, as a ONE big corporation. ..and this is the way IT actually runs allready today,right? ..only today, it's ALL in private hands.
Now ...all you have to do is to; "nationalize" the whole Big Industry (..basically the whole world, LOL!) and abolish all private money-hackling (banking and all stock markets!!) ..and take ALL money-moving to the PEOPLE = this UN-like body ..and so have; ONE global money system; same money value every where! ..no "need" for loan-interets, cause all money is the people's hands, or only very small interests for small business loan ...or just for a cool car or a sailing boat!! ..Fuck 'Communism', i say, ay?
Playing around along these kinda lines/ideas, we could make an equal job-pay system (work salaries) for the whole world; one health care; one social system etc.
All the different cultures & peoples would bloom, cause no McDonalds or exxon would be there trying to take over some small country ..people would be way more happy and so, more friendly to each other. ...technological discoveries would reach the people a whole lot faster, cause there would be no private interest to keep technology and discoveries hidden as the big companies do today.
Then... We could legalize IT!
Today everything gets more and more privatized again, and this is where you see how THEY used Communism; To abbolish monarchies (Old World Order), by lying to people "things will change, when we have taken over the king" ..then they (big private money, nobles..) keep this false-social society system running for 50 years, and then they run also this Communism down ...and then the bankers get to buy it all for themselves ...dirt cheep (= the New World Order), see?
Ok ..i'll get off the soap box now.
Peace.
...do you guys and girls think it would be wise, given the world as it is today, to allow such things to become widely available?
great thread! thanks for the links. and very timely for me ... now that i've (mostly) finished work on my vaporizer, free energy is my next project. i think it is a "sin" to impose a monthly "tax" on people to have electricity ... and i'm determined to work on fixing this problem with whatever time i have left.
my free energy work will be "open source", just like my Bud Toaster vape.
Victor Schauberger said over and over on his death bed :
"They took everything from me. Everything. I don't even own myself."
He didn't refer to they, which was either the Nazis, the Russians, or the US.
Regarding his "liquid vortex propulsion:"
"If water or air is rotated into a twisting form of oscillation known as 'colloidal', a build up of energy results, which, with immense power, can cause levitation."
I think it's possible - to extract 'free' energy from the bowels of the universe. I dunno if the technology already exists or not but I think that if it does then there's no way it would be made available to the general public. Such a thing would drastically alter the world in which we live. I used to think such a thing would be wonderful, that it would be the best thing to ever happen to the human race, but these days I've grown more cynical and can can honestly say that I am glad such a thing does not exist.
I mean, let's just say, for the sake of argument, that there is some infinite source of energy to be tapped and we could build devices that could actually tap it. If this sort of technology was given to the world how long do you guys think it would be before someone built a weapon? There are many psychos in the world today. From the kid who goes shooting up the school to the religious fanatic eager to do gods bidding and in many cases these psychos are smart. Deluded but still smart. What if some depressed but smart fucker decided he/she'd had enough and fiddled with a device in such a way that it would tap/release vast amounts of this infinite source of energy? If it's an infinite source then there's definitely enough in there to blow this entire planet to kingdom come, you know? God forbid such a power fall into the hands of the nutty. I try to think the best of my fellow man but being practical and realistic - I wouldn't trust us with such a thing. We're not spiritually developed enough to be responsible with it.
Henry Stevens said:Aether Theory
"For readers who have never heard of "aether", perhaps the simplest explanation for aether physics is that of the late Dr. Hans A. Nieper titled Revolution in Technology, Medicine and Society. Aether could be thought of as an energy source emanating from everywhere equally at once. The universe could be considered, as often said, "a sea of energy". It forms a background of energy everywhere, and since it is everywhere all the time, it is difficult make independent measurement of it. This aether energy is in constant motion. All energy is radiant energy, according to this theory. This can easily be appreciatedas to electromagnetic radiation but it is also true of that very elusive thing called gravity. Newton described the effects ofgravity but he never told us exactly what it was. Dr. Niepertells us that gravity is really a push, not a pull. Gravity is acceleration and is caused by the aether field. Again, all energy is radiant energy whose fundamental basis is aether radiation.
From the aforementioned book by Dr. Nieper:
"In addition, Nieper established the axiom that all natural accelerations can be attributed to a single unified basic principle, namely, the interception (or braking) of a field energy penetrating from the outside (gravity acceleration, magnetic, electromagnetic, electrostatic and radiesthesic acceleration). "
In trying to explain aether, it might be thought of as an all pervasive liquid occupying all of space. This liquid concept isuseful because a liquid can not be compressed but can only transfer the energy attempting to compress it from one location to another. This is how an automobile's brakes work. The driver pushes in the break pedal when he wants to stop. The plunger ofthe break pedal attempts to compress fluid in the master cylinder. The master cylinder is connected by metal tubes fullof fluid to each wheel. When force is put on the master cylinder by the driver it is transmitted to each of the four wheel cylinders full of the same fluid which transmit the force, moving the break shoes or stopping the disc which stops the wheels of the car.
Likewise, aether serves to transmit energy through this "non- compressibility" quality. In a primary electric coil and secondary electric coil, for instance, induction in the secondary does not take place directly from the primary as is new held by physics, but though and between the two via the aether field.This concept, that of the stimulation of the aether field as means of energy transport, is also expressed by Davson.
Using this perspective, that all energy is radiation, the braking of aether radiation, that is the slowing down or stopping of this radiation, can cause or generate other forms of energy. This word "energy" means the entire electromagnetic spectrum. This means electric, magnetic and electrostatic fields. This meansheat. This also means gravity. Again, gravity is the primary radiation of the aether field. It radiates from every point inthe universe equally.
This concept seems ridiculous until it is given some thought-One might ask: How can gravity be a push when we know better? After all, things fall to earth don't they? The answer is that the effects we feel and call gravity are due to gravity shielding. Aether radiation can be braked, that is slowed down and absorbed by mass. It is then re-radiated or turned intomass. It is re-emitted as slower aether radiation or even as heat. Some of it can is converted into mass inside a planet. If there is a loss of aether radiation, then there is shielding.Thus, a planet would shield from this radiation in one direction.That direction is always toward its center which is the direction of greatest mass and that is what we describe as "down". This is simply the area which contains the maximum amount of shielding.In all other directions the aether radiation continues to exert its push on us. The area of minimum shielding is directly opposite the area of maximum shielding, so things fall (or more correctly are accelerated or "pushed") to earth.
Think about this for a minute. Being in deep space is a little like being underwater. Underwater, all pressure from all points are so similar that we feel weightless. We are weightless in deep space because the aether field exerts a push on us from alldirections equally. In space, the nearer one gets to a large body the stronger the push is from the opposite direction since the body shields or converts the aether radiation. The result of this thinking is a mechanism totally different from "gravity" as we know it but appearing as exactly the same observed phenomena.
The beauty of this aether theory of gravity is that gravity functions like every other form of radiation. Its underlying cause, aether radiation, can be converted to mass or, in certaincircumstances, re-radiated or converted to other forms of energy. No Unified Field Theory is necessary. The aether field is the unified field. Further, there is no need to look for something separate called "anti-gravity". If gravity is a push then it is all anti-gravity. All we have to do to make a UFO is to find this particular gravity frequency and find out how to generateit.
Aether physics was a lost physics.
Physics was hijacked early in the 20th Century by alleged results of the Michelson-Morley experiment. The Michelson-Morley experiment assumed "aether" was matter. There is some confusion here. We know now that particles moving near the speed of light are measured as waves,that is energy, rather than as matter. Nevertheless, aether theory has been discredited among physicists who, in turn,discredit others who raise the subject. It is only through the efforts of "free energy devices" and free energy researchers that this knowledge is being returned to us. Without this aether theory, the reason these devices work cannot be explained at all. Rejection of aether theory allows these devices to be dismissed as"theoretically impossible" and so fraudulent by simple deduction.They are marginalized and dismissed as "perpetual motiondevices". According to established physics, perpetual motion devices violate physical laws of conservation of energy. Withoutan aether theory as an explanation, they do violate laws of conservation of energy and so their detractors are able to simplydismiss them out of hand. The simple fact that some of thesefree energy devices actually work does not seem to bother these scientists in the least. Rather than change the theory to accommodate the observed facts, the facts are ignored andsubstituted by dogma. Whaether we like it or not, we are livingin an energy Dark Age.
Instead of aether theory, we have all been led to focus upon Einstein and his Theories of Relativity. Two or three generations of scientists have wasted themselves on "trying toprove Einstein right". This misguided thinking has resulted instagnation. One need go no further than the many "free energy" devices which have arisen to the level of notice in spite of accepted scientific theory to see that this statement is true." - Henry Stevens
All this Henry Stevens paper science is from the 19th century and explains NOTHING. The 19th century idea that gravity is the result of shielding agains push has one big problem - all experiments conducted so far cannot detect any form of shielding (be it from pulling or pushing), i.e. gravity penetrates everything.
Any theory trying to explain some part of the existence (or the whole of it) should be in complience with the observations and should explain observations that cannot be explained by current theories. There are plenty of unexplainable observations in our universe. The ether theories (because it's not just one) have been mostly abandoned in the begining of the 20th century in favor of the theory of relativity because it explains a lot of observations that cannot be explained by the ether theories. If a new modified ether theory comes out and explains something new and makes predictions that can be proved later, then, I think, it will be accepted by the thinking ones among the physicists.
But talking about conspiracies without giving explanation for anything, without making any predictions that can be proved... that's just poetry.
And I don't want to spoil the poetry, as it atracts many inquiring minds to the field of physics, but I hope that these inquiring minds will take the next step and try to think reasonably and not emotionally.
without giving explanation for anything, without making any predictions that can be proved... that's just poetry.
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