I told y'all Obama was a reasonable mofo.
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MSNBC says Obama to legalize
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frito bandito
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when mother fuckers in colorado and washington start getting raided, what will you say then redbudduckfoot?
he promised to leave cali alone too, at least thats how the naive hopeful fools interpreted his statements back then. how did that end up working out for everybody?
the words obama used are CAREFULLY CHOSEN like any skillful liar's, and if you read closely in between the lines, you will note that he did NOT say there will be no raids conducted or that the feds will stay out of those states. he said its a "low priority." what the fuck does that mean, exactly? i dunno, maybe try asking harborside what it means?
bottom line is if you think obamas trying to end the war on drugs, you are extremely naive.
he promised to leave cali alone too, at least thats how the naive hopeful fools interpreted his statements back then. how did that end up working out for everybody?
the words obama used are CAREFULLY CHOSEN like any skillful liar's, and if you read closely in between the lines, you will note that he did NOT say there will be no raids conducted or that the feds will stay out of those states. he said its a "low priority." what the fuck does that mean, exactly? i dunno, maybe try asking harborside what it means?
bottom line is if you think obamas trying to end the war on drugs, you are extremely naive.
Obama, like his predecessors is a puppet.
It is all about money and power. Using Occam's Razor and "follow the money trail ie. WHO benefits from policy A, B, C etc.?" usually gives the clearest answers. In case of ongoing wars abroad, it is mostly a petrodollar war, no matter what they might feed us publicly.
The whole world suffers because of this. Just watch "Money as Debt" video and "The Money Masters". It is all there. THEN you see the news and it all makes sense.
Same with hemp, medical pot and all that. There is a vast machinery behind the War on Drugs. WHO benefits from it and WHY is it still going on, despite it's obvious failure?
WHO gets rich from the private prison industry in USA, and WHY did the rap and hip hop culture SO suddenly become violent in it's message, the gangsta rap... in the early 90's..
Although it might just be a paranoid conspiracy theory, the fact that it very well COULD have happened IRL is just scary. WHAT else do they scheme behind the closer doors?
http://articles.businessinsider.com...t/31550672_1_private-prison-rap-music-inmates
YMMV, just my 2 cents, I'm just a lousy keyboard warrior with all this.
It is all about money and power. Using Occam's Razor and "follow the money trail ie. WHO benefits from policy A, B, C etc.?" usually gives the clearest answers. In case of ongoing wars abroad, it is mostly a petrodollar war, no matter what they might feed us publicly.
The whole world suffers because of this. Just watch "Money as Debt" video and "The Money Masters". It is all there. THEN you see the news and it all makes sense.
Same with hemp, medical pot and all that. There is a vast machinery behind the War on Drugs. WHO benefits from it and WHY is it still going on, despite it's obvious failure?
WHO gets rich from the private prison industry in USA, and WHY did the rap and hip hop culture SO suddenly become violent in it's message, the gangsta rap... in the early 90's..
Although it might just be a paranoid conspiracy theory, the fact that it very well COULD have happened IRL is just scary. WHAT else do they scheme behind the closer doors?
http://articles.businessinsider.com...t/31550672_1_private-prison-rap-music-inmates
YMMV, just my 2 cents, I'm just a lousy keyboard warrior with all this.
Rudedewd
Member
It's pretty simple, if you are trying to make money off of weed you'll become a priority. That's what happened in states like Cali too with medical mj. Medical MJ was supposed to be about compassion and in Cali it turned into a business that's all about getting rich. In states that legalize for recreational use I have no problem with people trying to make a buck but medical mj is supposed to be about compassion. There is nothing compassionate about growers selling medicine for $2500 and up to dispensaries and nothing compassionate about them selling for $20 a gram or better either.
yeah!!
those bastards selling their product for a profit...
how dare they!
don't they know those kids with a rec for a hangnail need compassion?!?!?
get real
frito bandito
Member
fuck your compassion
You can't be serious.
!PeAcE!
Member
I hear yah but everyone could use some compassion these days.. Everyone deserves to taste this wonderful plant. some peoples mental disabilities of comprehending logic I feel can be cured with this wonderful plant too, grownups I feel should all be vapin right now. its easily comparible to a glass of wine or 3 glasses depending on what strains we are talking about ;-P also my input on this whole obama thing, DISCLAIMER...nothing was mentioned about growers or dispensaries...so tred carefully. back in the 20s or earlier than that or later cant remember the day but they issued these red cards and contradicted the whole process by snatching the people who signed up for the red card...i believe in the saying history repeats itself unfortunately so be careful. but for the record I do hope everything unfolds in a logical, welcoming manner where all us cannabis connesours can be liberated from needing to hide behind closed doors and some of us in fear.
Where is their compassion? I can get that bottle of Dom in Costco for $129.95. That local liquor store should be raided by the federal government!!!!!!!!!!! Kill a few jobs and ruin a few families, that is what our society should do to any slave / prole who would dare try and make a living by selling goods at a profit (shakes fist angrily).
i dont question or judge the motivations of the user.
all i know is they want what i have. all they should concern themselves with is i have what they want. there are others who have what they want and others who want what i have.
if we cannot come to an accord as to compensation they are free to pursue any of the myriad of other options.
the very idea that we should sit in judgment of the user is disgusting.
I agree with both sides, the small time dealer/grower, and the user.
A small time dealer/grower takes on a serious risk of life ruining consequences and needs to be compensated for his trouble and risks.
There is just a line, and the line is all over the place. The line is what will attract attention to get a dealer/grower arrested. And by the way, buying marijuana is also a crime.
The federal government seems to be focused on the easy prey, business's that run in broad daylight, make millions of dollars, try to buy clout with local authorities, and sometimes end up on television. These kinds of business's make enough money to sway the economy to what they call a Narco-Economy, one that they do not feel is legitimate. Allowing a big establishment to flourish is also in fact a form of propaganda that the federal government finds negative to their agenda. They have the power to quell these establishments, and use it. Busting these establishments is a form of propaganda as well. And governments are the propaganda kings.
If you look at early man you see that government was formed by armed mobs. The bigger and better armed the mob, the more effective they were in imparting their will on those that they conquer. As time went by these mobs have taken on more legitimacy through conditioning. What was just an armed mob at one time is the government we have today, and it's biggest fear is losing control.
If you look at history you will see that when ever an armed mob took over a society they killed the king, and anyone related to him. In that way there is no chance that he could come back and rally his people together against the mob in control.
I say get medical, grow your own and have a nice time with that loophole. It may be a bit like kissing your sister, but will keep you out of jail. And with all he new possibilities out there you will find Barely-Legal alternatives to support the recreation and medical users with new products or ideas and still stay out of jail. Like the guy Frankie in Olympia Washington that charges $10 to join the private smoking club at his bar. He gets the $10 but also sells you his brew. And being scandalous in the news attracts people from everywhere. He is going to have to expand and this has been going on less than two weeks.
A small time dealer/grower takes on a serious risk of life ruining consequences and needs to be compensated for his trouble and risks.
There is just a line, and the line is all over the place. The line is what will attract attention to get a dealer/grower arrested. And by the way, buying marijuana is also a crime.
The federal government seems to be focused on the easy prey, business's that run in broad daylight, make millions of dollars, try to buy clout with local authorities, and sometimes end up on television. These kinds of business's make enough money to sway the economy to what they call a Narco-Economy, one that they do not feel is legitimate. Allowing a big establishment to flourish is also in fact a form of propaganda that the federal government finds negative to their agenda. They have the power to quell these establishments, and use it. Busting these establishments is a form of propaganda as well. And governments are the propaganda kings.
If you look at early man you see that government was formed by armed mobs. The bigger and better armed the mob, the more effective they were in imparting their will on those that they conquer. As time went by these mobs have taken on more legitimacy through conditioning. What was just an armed mob at one time is the government we have today, and it's biggest fear is losing control.
If you look at history you will see that when ever an armed mob took over a society they killed the king, and anyone related to him. In that way there is no chance that he could come back and rally his people together against the mob in control.
I say get medical, grow your own and have a nice time with that loophole. It may be a bit like kissing your sister, but will keep you out of jail. And with all he new possibilities out there you will find Barely-Legal alternatives to support the recreation and medical users with new products or ideas and still stay out of jail. Like the guy Frankie in Olympia Washington that charges $10 to join the private smoking club at his bar. He gets the $10 but also sells you his brew. And being scandalous in the news attracts people from everywhere. He is going to have to expand and this has been going on less than two weeks.
Growers work hard for less money than ever and costs have risen.
I should find another way of making money?
We need to be proud of what we do. Many have thanked me for my contribution.
My friend Eddy Lepp never made money and he is still in fed prison. I could be given life for seeds. I will dedicate the rest of my life to seeing justice for growers.
I make some money but you can't be greedy. Sometimes people are jealous of those doing well but people who work hard and take risks do it for very little really. Grow your own weed and avoid being exploited but try and understand where so many of us find ourselves. Living on plan B. Don't you think people in the canna business wish they had great jobs that weren't so difficult as being a grower.
Be excellent to each other...as said by the wild stallions...Bill and Ted. Bog
I should find another way of making money?
We need to be proud of what we do. Many have thanked me for my contribution.
My friend Eddy Lepp never made money and he is still in fed prison. I could be given life for seeds. I will dedicate the rest of my life to seeing justice for growers.
I make some money but you can't be greedy. Sometimes people are jealous of those doing well but people who work hard and take risks do it for very little really. Grow your own weed and avoid being exploited but try and understand where so many of us find ourselves. Living on plan B. Don't you think people in the canna business wish they had great jobs that weren't so difficult as being a grower.
Be excellent to each other...as said by the wild stallions...Bill and Ted. Bog
