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SilverSurfer_OG

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^^^^^^^Nice video. We are in for a seriously bumpy ride.

This is now worst case scenario. Meltdown confirmed. Plutonium particles are the deadliest substance known to man...

Take steps to protect your friends and family.

Store water and food!!!

DO IT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God help us.
 

TNTBudSticker

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this is your clean example?

They may mean up to 90% of fossil fuel.But it may be an old article.

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Oil is still better than Nuclear anyways...Japan and those hybird cars..pffffft ...junk ..just junk cars.
 

dagnabit

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"article" is up to date..

but it's not really an article it is a statement from dick lim hawaii's director of d.b.e.d. on hawaii's own website...
they have a goal and thats admirable i guess, but oil from our enemies is no answer..

we tend to knee jerk.

9/11=patriot act
underwear bomber=full body scans
500 year earthquake=stop all nuclear power

we have to avoid reactionisim.
 

turbolaser4528

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^^^^^^^Nice video. We are in for a seriously bumpy ride.

This is now worst case scenario. Meltdown confirmed. Plutonium particles are the deadliest substance known to man...

Take steps to protect your friends and family.

Store water and food!!!

DO IT RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God help us.

The sky is falling !!!

LOL, while this is a grave situation for Japan, they are 5000 miles away. US citizens didn't crawl underground when Chernobyl happened in Russia.

I agree though, these are some fucking crazy and unprecedented times. Nothing wrong with being prepared, but i'm not going all out just yet.
 

igrowone

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in a moment of reflection upon this nuclear disaster, which is still unclear just how bad it will be
is to understand how we arrived at using light water nuclear reactors for electric power
it was based on the huge enrichment infrastructure created by the USA for the World War II nuclear bombs
after the war, the infrastructure was in place, light water reactors were a no brainer economically speaking
but it was never the safest option, with the need for powered fail safe systems
there are much safer reactor designs, much safer, much more efficient, and much less nuclear waste generation
1 example - the Molten Salt Reactor - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor
 

TNTBudSticker

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we tend to knee jerk.

9/11=patriot act
underwear bomber=full body scans
500 year earthquake=stop all nuclear power

we have to avoid reactionisim.

Retarded people ( single minded extremists) tend to Knee jerk....Refusing to listen to what Greenpeace has been saying all along... Stop the Nukes.

The 9/11 and the underwear bomber are not knee jerk reactions.
Airport security should have been main priority as early as 1970 when someone ( Head of the FAA) mention that Airport security sucks because they were snuggling cocaine but no one did a thing about it.

Japan has has many earthquakes and even brags about how their building are stronger in any earthquakes since they have made improvements. But they forgot people who live near the coasts.

They say simple minds talk about people,Average minds talk about events,and great minds talk about ideas.Having a semi black president in the U.S.A or even a Woman doesn't make anything better.It's just selfish greed..Very selfish people and single minded extremists.. tsk,tsk

None of them deserve to be in the white house.

If hippies have to take over the world Again..I would hope so!!
 
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The sky is falling !!!

LOL, while this is a grave situation for Japan, they are 5000 miles away. US citizens didn't crawl underground when Chernobyl happened in Russia.

I agree though, these are some fucking crazy and unprecedented times. Nothing wrong with being prepared, but i'm not going all out just yet.

Plutonium will travel in the jet stream as well as other deadly particles.

Cherynobyl will be a walk in the park compared to this.

Take steps now.
 

TNTBudSticker

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Plutonium will travel in the jet stream as well as other deadly particles.

Cherynobyl will be a walk in the park compared to this.

Take steps now.

I Seen a graph that says it's not bad compared to Cherynobyl,,,,It goes like this

Chest X-ray .01 Rad
Body scans .05 Rad
Japan disaster 400 Rad
Cherynobyl 5,000 Rad

There is some downplaying here as not to panic the public.


But for sure I'm stocking up on water...Water is flying off the shelves here.Hell,I'll just plant a few food plants next to the MJ.

Stupidest thing in the course of history...Making a few more Nuclear plants just to Make a few more toyotas.They even make General motor parts in japan.So wrong.U.S.A should make their own cars and parts so we can ride in cars like '57 chevys,66 GTO's 69 Mustangs.Japan is such a monopoly when it comes to cars.
 

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kind of greedy, but i can't help but keep thinking, if a good enough amount of radiation does make it over here and i am alive long enough to see it, would we notice a change in our crops that are also getting radiation doses? let's say 1, 5, 10 years down the line if you're keeping a mom and/or making your own seed, would there be any noticeable changes in our crops due to radiation over time?
 

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Stupidest thing in the course of history...Making a few more Nuclear plants just to Make a few more toyotas.They even make General motor parts in japan.So wrong.U.S.A should make their own cars and parts so we can ride in cars like '57 chevys,66 GTO's 69 Mustangs.Japan is such a monopoly when it comes to cars.

this is true, as far as it goes
Japan made a choice to become one the world's largest manufacturing economies
and they did, but with small fossil fuel reserves, they had no choice, either be a much smaller economy, or build nuclear reactors
after the smoke clears, this same choice is going to be on the table
i suppose it's not impossible to build replacement generation with wind/tidal/solar, but that seems very implausible with the costs
Japan probably can not compete in the manufacturing game without cheap(relatively) nuclear power
so a very interesting decision is forth coming
 

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Plutonium will travel in the jet stream as well as other deadly particles.

Cherynobyl will be a walk in the park compared to this.

Take steps now.

Way to spread misinformation. The BWR sites use uranium oxide as a fuel source. There's not a hint of plutonium. The radioactive emissions are from iodine and cesium isotopes from the melting fuel rods and unstable isotopes that react with air like nitrogen 16.
Enjoy the negative rep, chicken little.
 

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Way to spread misinformation. The BWR sites use uranium oxide as a fuel source. There's not a hint of plutonium. The radioactive emissions are from iodine and cesium isotopes from the melting fuel rods and unstable isotopes that react with air like nitrogen 16.
Enjoy the negative rep, chicken little.

Sorry dude. This is misinformation. Plutonium is used at the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex. They were experimenting with it. The situation doesn't look very good right now. I believe right now it's rated worse than 3 Mile, but not as serious as Cherynobyl. The situation is far from under control yet though.

Plutonium in troubled reactors, spent fuel pools
The fuel rods at all six reactors at the stricken Fukushima Dai-ichi complex contain plutonium — better known as fuel for nuclear weapons. While plutonium is more toxic than uranium, other radioactive elements leaking out are likely to be of greater danger to the general public.

Only six percent of the fuel rods at the plant's Unit 3 were a mixture of plutonium-239 and uranium-235 when first put into operation. The fuel in other reactors is only uranium, but even there, plutonium is created during the fission process.

 

SilverSurfer_OG

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I cant believe you take anything your federal govt. and their reps say as being truthful???

I am just trying to help.

Why take chances???

I grew up next to a nuclear reactor so have some kind of clue.

YOU ARE BEING LIED TO!!!

Just search MOX reactor...

I really, really hope this is contained soon.

God speed.
 

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/mox-plu...-times-more-deadly-than-enriched-uranium.html

MOX plutonium fuel used in Fukushima’s Unit 3 reactor two million times more deadly than enriched uranium


Ethan A. Huff,
Natural News
March 18, 2011

Largely absent from most mainstream media reports on the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster is the fact that a highly-dangerous “mixed-oxide” (MOX) fuel in present in six percent of the fuel rods at the plant’s Unit 3 reactor. Why is MOX a big deal? According to the Nuclear Information Resource Center (NIRS), this plutonium-uranium fuel mixture is far more dangerous than typical enriched uranium — a single milligram (mg) of MOX is as deadly as 2,000,000 mg of normal enriched uranium.

On March 14, Unit 3 of the Fukushima reactor exploded, sending a huge smoke plume into the air. This particular reactor, of course, contains the rods fueled with MOX. You can watch a clip of that explosion here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_N-…

If even a couple milligrams of MOX were released during this explosion — or if other explosions at the plant inflict any damage on the MOX-filled rods — then the consequences could be exponentially more devastating than the mere leakage of enriched uranium. And since nobody knows for sure exactly which rods have been damaged, and whether or not the situation can actually be contained, it is only a matter of time before the world finds out for sure.

An exact quote from the report reads:

“In the event of such accidents (involving the accidental release of MOX), if the ICRP (International Commission on Radiological Protection) recommendations for general public exposure were adhered to, only about one mg of plutonium may be released from a MOX facility to the environment. As a comparison, in [sic] uranium fabrication facility, 2kg (2,000,000 mg) of uranium could be released in the same radiation exposure.”


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A simple calculation reveals that one mg of MOX is basically two million times more powerful than one mg of uranium. This is clearly not a good thing when the plutonium-containing fuel rods in Fukushima may be damaged from the recent explosions and leaking into the environment.

A recent National Public Radio (NPR) piece explains that the half-life of plutonium-239, a component of MOX, is an astounding 24,000 years. The same piece explains that if even a small amount of this potent substance escapes from the plant in a smoke plume, the particles will travel with the wind and contaminate soil for tens of thousands of years (http://www.npr.org/2011/03/16/13460…).

Amazingly, most mainstream reports that mention MOX discount it as a non-threat. But the truth of the matter is that the threat posed by MOX is very serious. The NIRS report explains that inhalation of MOX radioactive material is significantly more dangerous than inhalation of normal uranium radioactive particles. You can read the entire MOX report for yourself here:
http://www10.antenna.nl/wise/469-47…

Sources for this story include:

http://www10.antenna.nl/wise/469-47…

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/16/13460…

Learn more:http://www.naturalnews.com/031736_plutonium_enriched_uranium.html#ixzz1GxD9uyOt
 

Jaymer

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Get well Japan, clear out and move on in a safer direction for the future as much as possible, Peace - banning earthquakes now.
 

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How to Protect Yourself from Radiation

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Washington’s Blog
March 18, 2011

Preface: This is written for the millions of people around the world who are worried about radiation from the Japanese nuclear reactors. For those who are not worried about radiation from Japan, you can ignore this post, or save it for any future radiation scares closer to home.

How do we protect ourselves against radiation?

It is true that potassium iodide protects against high doses of a certain type of radiation. As the New York Times notes:

Fortunately, an easy form of protection is potassium iodide, a simple compound typically added to table salt to prevent goiter and a form of mental retardation caused by a dietary lack of iodine.

If ingested promptly after a nuclear accident, potassium iodide, in concentrated form, can help reduce the dose of radiation to the thyroid and thus the risk of cancer. In the United States, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission recommends that people living within a 10-mile emergency planning zone around a nuclear plant have access to potassium iodide tablets.

Indeed, virtually all suppliers of potassium iodide have sold out, especially after , the U.S. Surgeon General recommended that West Coast residents stock up.

But as I noted yesterday:

Keep in mind that iodide only protects against one particular radioactive element: radioactive iodine, technically known as iodine-131. Iodine-131 has a half life of only 8.02 days. That means that the iodine loses half of its radioactivity within 8 days.

The government hasn’t stockpiled much potassium iodide. As the New York Times notes:

Congress passed legislation in 2002 requiring the federal government to supply potassium iodide capsules to people living within 20 miles of nuclear power plants in the United States.

But the administrations of George W. Bush and Barack Obama have not implemented that provision, saying the law allows for alternatives.

Some states have given pills to people living within 10 miles of nuclear plants, or stockpiled the pills for those people.

But given that the government says that only minute amounts of radiation will hit the United States, and given that iodine-131 has such a short half-life, the whole issue may be moot (many, however, do not trust the government’s assurances. See this and this). And taking high doses of potassium iodide can be harmful, especially for people with certain pre-existing medical conditions. So talk to your doctor before taking any.

Other Radiation Dangers

While iodine-131 poisoning can be prevented with potassium iodide, there are no silver bullets for other radioactive isotopes.

As I pointed out yesterday:

The New York Times noted last week that – in addition to iodine-131, the big danger is cesium:

Over the long term, the big threat to human health is cesium-137, which has a half-life of 30 years.

At that rate of disintegration, John Emsley wrote in “Nature’s Building Blocks” (Oxford, 2001), “it takes over 200 years to reduce it to 1 percent of its former level.”

It is cesium-137 that still contaminates much of the land in Ukraine around the Chernobyl reactor.

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Cesium-137 mixes easily with water and is chemically similar to potassium. It thus mimics how potassium gets metabolized in the body and can enter through many foods, including milk.

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The Environmental Protection Agency says that … once dispersed in the environment … cesium-137 “is impossible to avoid.”

Cesium-137 is light enough to be carried by the wind a substantial distance.

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There is no surefire prevention for cesium-137. As the EPA notes in a discussion entitled ” What can I do to protect myself and my family from cesium-137?”:

Cesium-137 that is dispersed in the environment, like that from atmospheric testing, is impossible to avoid.

Neither the EPA – nor any other government agency – gives advice on how to minimize the danger from cesium-137 poisoning. Some have theorized about

So does that mean that we’re sitting ducks?

Well, the fact that there is no silver bullet (although some have theorized about potential approaches) does not mean that there is nothing we can do.

Some Foods and Herbs May Help

Many foods and herbs have shown efficacy in helping to protect against radiation poisoning. Indeed, antioxidants in general have been found by some studies to reduce the consequences of radiation exposure.

A leading alternative health authority – Dr. Andrew Weil, a medical doctor who runs the Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona – writes today in response to the question of how to protect ourselves against radiation:

I discussed other preventive strategies with Tieraona Low Dog, M.D., director of The Fellowship at the Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine and an expert on botanical health. She said that there is reason to believe that taking two to four grams of curcumin, the active compound in turmeric, can help protect a number of body tissues. In addition, reishi and cordyceps mushrooms can protect bone marrow from toxic assaults, and antioxidants can help the body defend itself from radiation damage. Since radioactive particles may be carried by dust, having a HEPA filter in your home would also be a good idea in the event of a nuclear accident that is close enough to be of concern.

Dr. Tieraona Low Dog is a medical doctor who has impressive credentials in herbal medicine, and who has been tapped to fill a number of health related posts in government.

Retired neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock – on the editorial staff of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons – also recommends foods and herbs to help protect us from radiation:

“Most of the health risks are not going to be due to acute radiation poisoning,” he tells Newsmax. “It’s going to be a risk of increased cancer.” …

If radiation does arrive in the United States, people would need “to change their diet. They need to stop eating Western farm products,” Blaylock says. …

Among the supplements he cited, iodine can protect the thyroid gland if taken before the exposure to radiation.

Gingko biloba can be protective even after exposure to radiation. Beta-glucan protects the bone marrow. Curcumin also can offer protection after exposure, particularly against breast cancer. He also suggests garlic extract, ginger, melatonin, and magnesium. …

We understand if all of this sounds a bit flakey, crunchy, woo-woo and hippy-ish.

And none of these are 100% effective even against low doses of radiation.

But there are actually numerous scientific studies backing up the ability of some foods and herbs to help protect us from radiation. Admittedly, some scientific studies are good studies and some are of worthless quality. But the rest of this post will round up some of the scientific literature for your review.

As the Journal of Clinical Biochemical Nutrition noted in 2007:

The results obtained from in vitro and in vivo studies indicate that several botanicals such as Gingko biloba, Centella asiatica, Hippophae rhamnoides, Ocimum sanctum, Panax ginseng, Podophyllum hexandrum, Amaranthus paniculatus, Emblica officinalis, Phyllanthus amarus, Piper longum, Tinospora cordifoila, Mentha arvensis, Mentha piperita, Syzygium cumini, Zingiber officinale, Ageratum conyzoides, Aegle marmelos and Aphanamixis polystachya protect against radiation-induced lethality, lipid peroxidation and DNA damage.

Many inexpensive foods have protective properties against radiation, including:

* Garlic (one Indian tribe living in the desert of Nevada used to eat bulbs of raw garlic to help protect against radiation from the above-ground nuclear tests)

* Foods rich in beta-carotene

* Ginger

* Curcurim (and see this) – the active ingredient in turmeric which, in turn, is in yellow curry (available in Indian and Thai dishes).

* Many types of seaweed (see this, this and this)

* Miso (when it has been “long-fermented”, instead of fermented for a shorter time)

Many herbs and supplements available at health food stores and drugstores pharmacies have protective properties against radiation, including:

* Vitamin D3

* Vitamin E (see this and this; the natural form is probably much healthier for you than the synthetic form)

* Panax Ginseng, a traditional “adaptogen” in Chinese medicine (see this and this)

* American Ginseng (indeed, one study apparently found American Ginseng helped prevent damage from cesium-137)

* Rhodiola, an adaptogen

* Holy basil (and see this; also called tulasi; this is the top herb in traditional Ayurvedic – i.e. Indian – medicine)

* Chlorella, a blue-green algae (see this and this)

* Spirulina, a blue-green algae available at health food stores

* Ginko bilboa

* Tomato extract (Lycopersicon)

* Reishi mushrooms (and see this)

* Cordyceps mushroom (and see this)

* Magnesium pemoline

* Sesamol (an extract from sesame seeds)

* Melatonin applied to the skin

* Thiol family of antioxidants, such as N-acetyl cysteine, glutathione and thioproline

* Beta-glucan (a yeast derivative)

And many herbs commonly available in some parts of the world have protective properties against radiation, including:

* Aloe arborescens (commonly known as “Krantz Aloe”, a lesser-known member of the aloe family)

* Nigella sativa

* Centella asiatica

* Tinospora cordifolia (known as “guduchi”)

* Emblica

Note: Just because herbs are “natural” does not mean that they can be swallowed in large doses without side effects. Herbs can have powerful effects, just like medicine. As such, you should treat them with respect and study proper dosage and potential side effects before taking them.

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor or a health professional, and this should not be taken as medical advice. Nothing contained herein is intended to diagnose or treat any condition. You should consult your doctor before making any decisions about whether or not to take any of the foods, herbs, supplements or substances mentioned herein.
 

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I have heard spirulina is a very good one and easy to find.

There is a huge storm system heading towards California... and there is a very real possibility of a huge earthquake on the 19th...

Take steps.
 

dagnabit

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botulinum is the deadliest substance known to man BTW...
on an l/d50 measurement plutonium ranks about 500th ;)


not that it matters with those types of toxins....
they will all kill the shit out of 'ya
 

igrowone

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certain sulfur containing amino acids have been long known to have protective effects on radiation exposure
methionine is one such
 

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