Looking for a bit of car wiring help??? Anyone???

[Hydro-Soil]

Hey All

Got a bit of a sticky wicket I've stepped into and looking for the best place to find the info I'm looking for. (Searches have just left me baffled)

I have two doors that I'm replacing on a car and they have power everything. The doors came from a ford and are being put on a Merc. (Same parts, Yadda Yadda.)

My issue is that the wiring is different colors. Gah! I'm not exactly a pro at the wiring stuff either. I don't have any problems doing the physical work I just get really confused easily with wiring I'm not familiar with. (Computers are not a problem)



Does anyone have any keen insight as to where I might find wiring diagrams/info for both cars I have so I can match the wiring colors up? I'd REALLy like to be able to roll the windows down. LOL

Much appreciated for any help.

 

[strydr]

Did the wires come with the connecting ends, or did they just cut the wires? If it has the connector ends, it should be the same (just snap together) if not, you might need to trace each wire to where it terminates (on the window switch, for example). With that, you could find a diagram for the wiring in the car, and mate them up.

BTW, what year is the car/donor doors? Lots of manuals can be found online, you just need to know where to look (depends on the year) If you know anyone who works for a car dealer, they can get you much more detailed diagrams as well.

Anyway, not the answer you were looking for, but we need more info...

 

[CoonLover]

Ford and Mercury I would think they would use the same wiring scamatic's.
What year is your Merc and what year is the Donor car?

When I threw in a 99 Civic SiR cluster is my 92 eg, I just went down to the Honda dealership and asked if I could view the Factory Wiring Diagram books and they were cool as hell and even aloud me to photo copy like 20 pages on their copier for free.
Over a lunch I switched 45 pins into the plug.

Get me the years and makes of both and I'll see what I can do..

OR

You can always pull out the switches and harness and throw it in the new door. Can't imagine they would be different connectors.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Did the wires come with the connecting ends, or did they just cut the wires? If it has the connector ends, it should be the same (just snap together) if not, you might need to trace each wire to where it terminates (on the window switch, for example). With that, you could find a diagram for the wiring in the car, and mate them up.

BTW, what year is the car/donor doors? Lots of manuals can be found online, you just need to know where to look (depends on the year) If you know anyone who works for a car dealer, they can get you much more detailed diagrams as well.

Anyway, not the answer you were looking for, but we need more info...

No connecting ends, just cut wires.

The door innards are exactly the same, just different colors on the wires.
93 Crown Vic is the donor
92 Grand Marquis is the running vehicle.

car dealer, eh? Might have to go that route.


Anyone know the best way to go about testing the wires with a battery or something to figure out which ones are the window leads and which ones are the doors? I have a multi-meter if that helps.

CoonHunter: Awesome! Hoping I get the same response if I end up going that route.

 

[iGro4Me]

You can't find the wiring diagrams anywhere online ?

I would assume you need diagrams for both vehicles if you are already running into matching color issues.

What's the MMY of each vehicle, maybe collectively we can come up with something.

EDIT:

Here's a link to a Ford Forum, the link goes right to the Marquis section directly....Looks like lots of info.

LINK

 

[panopticist]

You'd need copies of the factory service manuals for both vehicles.

I found one online for my car rather easily. Made installing an iPod adapter to my OEM head unit a breeze...

 

[kmk420kali]

It is only wires running from a switch, to a motor...with a hot in there somewhere-- Just re-run them-- Can't be all that hard--

 

[MCsqrd]

/\ What he said.
Buy/borrow a multimeter to test your wires, makes it a lot easier.

 

[CoonLover]

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[Hydro-Soil]

Holy Shit!

Thanks everyone


I'll definitely get this licked.

The only real issue I have is that I'm a high functioning Autistic (no pun intended LOL) and this is one of those things I seem to have a 'block' about in my head. Heh.


Soooooo amazing to me to sit down to a complicated task that makes people go buggo and just whip right through it, only to turn around and be completely baffled by something simple that people say "Oh that's so easy, you just......"
This wiring is too simple and it's confusing the crud outta me. ROTFL

 

[Hydro-Soil]

Standard Service ... for those not in a big hurry:
Complete Vehicle: Wiring Diagrams 1985-2006 This is for those who need the complete set of diagrams for a single vehicle.
(for vehicles sold in North America from 1985-2006)
Guaranteed delivery within 24-hours. Cost: $12.99

Just ordered one for each car. I have a ton of stuff to re-wire on the main car anyway so figured what the hell. It's getting hot and I need to roll those dang windows down. LOL

I thought it was going to be $19.99 each but read it wrong..... Nice that it was $12.99 each. Yaaaay! Thanks again CoonHunter

 

[kmk420kali]

So....is the car/window running??

 

[Hydro-Soil]

So....is the car/window running??

YES!!!!

Thank you thank you, one and ALL


No fires and everything that's supposed to work does. Still have a few items to finish up but will be doing that when I replace the other doors.

The wiring diagrams are just peachy. I had to have my wife go through them, with some clarification from me, and write down exactly what color wire to match to what color wire. I could answer her questions as long as I wasn't looking at the schematics. Looking at them just makes me so confused I have to stop. LOL

Wired it up in about 20 minutes and it's sooooo nice to have a window down while you're driving. LOL




The $12.99 for the complete wiring manual is definitely worth the price. It's a PDF and is easily readable. The wires are in color and are also marked with the names of the colors so you can still use it when you print it out on a B&W printer like mine

 

[ArcticBlast]

hack alldata or mitchellondemand and you're ready to go!

ArcticBlast

 

[zomg1]

buy a multimeter they are like 5 bucks, i use mine ALL the time well worth the 5 bucks

 

[CoonLover]

So....is the car/window running??

YES!!!!

Thank you thank you, one and ALL


No fires and everything that's supposed to work does. Still have a few items to finish up but will be doing that when I replace the other doors.

The wiring diagrams are just peachy. I had to have my wife go through them, with some clarification from me, and write down exactly what color wire to match to what color wire. I could answer her questions as long as I wasn't looking at the schematics. Looking at them just makes me so confused I have to stop. LOL

Wired it up in about 20 minutes and it's sooooo nice to have a window down while you're driving. LOL




The $12.99 for the complete wiring manual is definitely worth the price. It's a PDF and is easily readable. The wires are in color and are also marked with the names of the colors so you can still use it when you print it out on a B&W printer like mine

Awesome!
Thats great news..

 

[Hydro-Soil]

buy a multimeter they are like 5 bucks, i use mine ALL the time well worth the 5 bucks

I thought I mentioned I do have a multi-meter? How on earth would that help me if I don't understand how the car is wired???

Sorry but I take offense to people doing the same thing I do and that's respond to a thread without fully reading it. That'll teach me, eh? It's rubbing off on other people! AIIIIIiiiiiiii!