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[Gascanastan]

A lack of chlorophyll seemed sweet until I started researching variegation in plants, all signs point to trashing this plant, its a dude BTW - waddya think?



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...is there Blueberry in it? Whenever I see any variegation like that I always do the research on the type/strain and low and behold...Blueberry. I think it's a mutation when DJ or Vic High used a mutagen when forking around w/the Blueberry way back when. Some say no..others say yep....having worked with colchicine and the mutants it creates..I say yep!

Back in the day is was often a secondary thought that this type of variegation would be better camouflage for growing cannabis right under unsuspecting noses. Imagine if there was no loss off health with a plant that looked like variegated sage. "No Sir that is not cannabis...just look at the leaves". Also...if cannabis ever does go 'legal'...there will suddenly be a market for ornamentals....save these colorful and variegated types in seed for the little old ladies who think it's pretty 75 years from now.

 

[shmalphy]

having worked with colchicine and the mutants it creates..I say yep!

save these colorful and variegated types in seed for the little old ladies who think it's pretty 75 years from now.

Anti GMO, but pro colchicine? That is some NASTY stuff, don't get it on you!

I picture one day cannabis will be just like the opium poppies that adorn every grandmothers garden... They grow and die and never get anyone high...

 

[Gascanastan]

Anti GMO, but pro colchicine? That is some NASTY stuff, don't get it on you!

I picture one day cannabis will be just like the opium poppies that adorn every grandmothers garden... They grow and die and never get anyone high...

Back in the day when I was a chemi guy...then again some mutagens are naturally occurring.....and there are some mutagens that are harmless...check 'spurs' posts..he seemed to be stoked on using harmless mutagens.

Colchicine and DMSO will kill you....best not to fuck with it.

 

[shmalphy]

If not kill you, it might give your kids extra limbs....


Although that might be kind of cool!

 

[BlueJayWay]

...is there Blueberry in it? Whenever I see any variegation like that I always do the research on the type/strain and low and behold...Blueberry. I think it's a mutation when DJ or Vic High used a mutagen when forking around w/the Blueberry way back when. Some say no..others say yep....having worked with colchicine and the mutants it creates..I say yep!

Back in the day is was often a secondary thought that this type of variegation would be better camouflage for growing cannabis right under unsuspecting noses. Imagine if there was no loss off health with a plant that looked like variegated sage. "No Sir that is not cannabis...just look at the leaves". Also...if cannabis ever does go 'legal'...there will suddenly be a market for ornamentals....save these colorful and variegated types in seed for the little old ladies who think it's pretty 75 years from now.

That's one of the first things that came up in research, an article from DJ about the blue line and various mutations. This is a sour strawberry bx1 from a seed pack gifted by bog, I've seen stunted weird triploid type expressions from sour bubble, not the color variegation though, the strawberry comes from supposedly a clone only "strawberry kush" from NorCal, some say its a KKSC but I haven't heard that from bog.

Yea seriously that's what I was thinking, ornamental cannabis - to rival any Japanese maple lol, I'll definitely let it grow out for a bit at least, see how it matures and what not.

 

[IncredibowlBoss]

IB

The book Botany - An Introduction to Plant Biology is widely assigned in upper division Botany classes. The current edition is #5 but #4 has a web site that has information and a Search function that will probably be helpful.

CC

Checked the site out - gonna try to track down a cheap used copy.

Haven't been able to find any info on s1 breeding of dioecious crops other than cannabis - is it simply not practiced in mainstream plant husbandry?

 

[Gascanastan]

Having grown out and repopulated the Velvet Rush seed group I was gifted (Highland Blue Thai x Stretch Indica circa 1979-ish)......after about 20 females and 20 males I can say that there were no hermi's and no mutations....these all exhibited the landrace traits of the parents. Two phenotypes...Indica dom and Sativa dom...This was the beginning of the Blue line.

After working with the Velvet Rush I can now identify the Highland Blue phenotype in any BB cross that shows it. The smell is absolutely unique...and once in a while pops out in some ridiculous BB pollen chucked to death type.

If there was any hermaphrodite traits,the boys down in So.Cal either unwillingly or intentionally bred those traits out over the 5 years that the Velvet Rush was grown commercially outdoors....circa 1986 to 1990-ish...So.Cal.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

It was unwilling and definitely unintentional. Not the best 'breeders' in the world by today's standards.

Thankfully......

 

[YosemiteSam]

Hey CC...you have convinced me to give enzymes a try. When I water my plants I go through about 55 gallons of water. Can you give me an idea how much barley seed I would need to germinate for that?

 

[Gascanastan]

It was unwilling and definitely unintentional. Not the best 'breeders' in the world by today's standards.

Thankfully......

Thankfully indeed!!!!!!!

I honestly found not a single mutation or hermi flower....which causes me to question DJ's breeding honestly/morality. Then again I don't have much respect for breeders that keep secrets about lineage..I appreciate DJ's work,but come on man....it was everything in the world I could do to provoke him to tell me what the hell VR was....even PM'd him. I think he came out and said something about it,but not directly to myself....not that I didn't believe you...but that Indica was a mystery until he came out and said it was what he called, "the stretch indica"....I think it was a Mazar..simply by the way the Mazar behaves...lots of stretch in flower and veg...big fat leaves.

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Hey CC...you have convinced me to give enzymes a try. When I water my plants I go through about 55 gallons of water. Can you give me an idea how much barley seed I would need to germinate for that?

YosemiteSam

I would use about 1 cup of organic barley seeds and I would sprout them in a 5-gallon bucket. Once the bucket is about 1/2 - 3/4 full of sprouts then cover with water, soak for 48 hours and add that to your tank of water, i.e. 55 gallons of water.

That's what I would do! LOL

CC

 

[YosemiteSam]

Thanks...that is what I will do also.

 

[Gascanastan]

Thanks...that is what I will do also.

...ditto

 

[ClackamasCootz]

The sprouted seed teas produced the heaviest resin levels on the TO that I've ever achieved in 29 years. The 'high' is the strongest I've ever pulled from this cross.

Ever......

Wait until it's finished curing - about another 3 weeks.

 

[MrSterling]

God damn it's frustrating to see the kindle price on those college textbooks. Bastards make a killing constantly releasing new editions to keep the "industry" afloat at the cost of students, their families, and the tax payer. Lotsa people making money off it, but I can tell you, it's not the teachers hired to write them and it's not the people actually making them.

On actual topic my camellia fpe seems to be coming along. The smell has matured from a fresh rosey smell to a rich spicy smell reminiscent of the holidays or a potpourri. The colours have faded from the bright pink to a dark violet as they break down. I've added some every few days from the bush, so there's a gnarly transition of colors. I'm not sure what but something must be going on in there. I had to weigh the material down as air bubbles were forming towards the bottom and pushing the material up and out of the water.

 

[Gascanastan]

The sprouted seed teas produced the heaviest resin levels on the TO that I've ever achieved in 29 years. The 'high' is the strongest I've ever pulled from this cross.

Ever......

Wait until it's finished curing - about another 3 weeks.

Just got some Blue Orca cured up...how lovely a smoke this is when cured right.

I've not experienced a type that had a such a knock-out punch as TO....I could not smoke it all day...I never have..I'd be a slobbering baboon sitting in my own waste.

That sounds nearly frightening...I can't imagine much more than what it is already.

 

[YosemiteSam]

CC...do you mix that with your other bio teas or do it separately?

 

[ClackamasCootz]

I picture one day cannabis will be just like the opium poppies that adorn every grandmothers garden... They grow and die and never get anyone high...

We're already there in Orygun - just check out Jennifer Valley's strains with 50 day cycles (that includes veg) giving you 36% THC according to this genius.

Can't pull that off? No problem - just enroll in her Portlandsterdam University (seriously).

Pathetic and then some.......

CC

 

[rrog]

God damn it's frustrating to see the kindle price on those college textbooks. Bastards make a killing constantly releasing new editions to keep the "industry" afloat at the cost of students, their families, and the tax payer. Lotsa people making money off it, but I can tell you, it's not the teachers hired to write them and it's not the people actually making them.

The whole college thing is BS anymore. The expectation is that college = employment, and that's just not so. Nowhere in the world is it more costly to get an education. It's become another way to siphon huge sums of cash from families in the US.

Just like the medical system. I know a guy who just came back from Japan. He has a seizure there, Ambulance, Emergency Room, specialists, tests, observation. The works. When he left they gave him a bill for $600US. Would have been thousands and thousands here. Just BS.

Sorry for the off-topic rant

 

[ClackamasCootz]

CC...do you mix that with your other bio teas or do it separately?

Yosemite Sam

At a small retail organic farm store that caters to the 'urban chicken' deal. Portland allows you to have 3 HENS though that doesn't stop at least 3 of my neighbors from raising ROOSTERS as well. At any rate they sell a bunch of different chicken feed products. One of them is a mix of organic wheat, barley and rye seeds. I bought a couple of lbs. and used that several times.

I use organic alfalfa seeds by themselves during veg for all the reasons we know about this specific plant - PGRs, auxins, et al.

Overall nothing very procedural - whatever is handy basically.

HTH

CC