Is it too soon for me to flip to flower or are they ready?

[nohurrygrower]

Was wondering if you guys think I can send some of my plants into flower and flip the light schedule. They have vegged for about 2 weeks. Attached below are the pics. Thank you

 

[moose eater]

They all look lovely.

When you flip to 12:12 nearly exclusively depends on your intentions re. plant size, style of growing, (i.e., sea of green, super cropping, etc.).

I'd have typically topped the primary tops at least 2 x's by now to get more branching and primary colas, but I almost invariably super crop.

You can flip them whenever you'd like, but typically smaller plants provide less finished product.

And figure that once you flip the light schedule, your gain in height will range from 50% to 150% in additional 'altitude' by maturity, so your working ceiling or maximum allowable height matters too.

But even with that, if you run out of space between your lighting and the tops of your plants, you can train them with lines and weights or tether points, and buy yourself more space, partly depending on how crowded they might or might not be.

 

[nohurrygrower]

They all look lovely.

When you flip to 12:12 nearly exclusively depends on your intentions re. plant size, style of growing, (i.e., sea of green, super cropping, etc.).

I'd have typically topped the primary tops at least 2 x's by now to get more primary colas, but I almost invariably, super crop.

You can flip them whenever you'd like, but typically smaller plants provide less finished product.

And figure that once you flip the light schedule, your gain in height will range from 50% to 150% in additional 'altitude', so your working ceiling or maximum allowable height matters too.

But even with that, if you run out of space between your lighting and the tops of your plants, you can train them with lines and/or weights or tether points, and buy yourself more space, partly depending on how crowded they might or might not be.

Thank you for your kind words and input. I would rather keep them taller than bushier and smaller than too big, I have other plants as well. So I do not plan to top or veg for too much longer. I also do not want to waste the genetics and without taking a clone just not going to this run yet I watched videos and understand the process but I want to get a harvest under my belt. I flipped other seeds to 12-12 after about 4 days of Veg LOL and now they are on day 8 of Flower it was 4 plants in 1 gal pots I will attach photos below they are in my flowering tent. The reason I wanted to flip them so early was personal and b/c they were Reg and not fem seeds turns out they are all fem it looks like... take a peak. Also have more of that same strain it was a 15 pack and might veg a few more out longer. Just do not want to get my flower tent too crowded or myself in too over my head so I am sticking to all reg seeds go into 1 gal and get minimal veg and all fem seeds go into 2 gal and get some more veg but not very long 2 weeks to 1 month. Eventually I will be able to take clones and cuttings and breed but for now I want to focus on getting some harvest and quality bud under my belt. My nutrients are Mills with some added microbes and ph to 5.8-5.9 every feed in CANNA brand Coco with added Pumice I ordered off of Amazon. Here are the attached photos of my 1 gal reg seeds going into day 8 of flower with no veg time.

 

[moose eater]

Not familiar with Mills. I stick to organic or quasi-organic soilless mixes, and am stuck in my ways as far as only typically growing natural selection non-femmed seeds, unless I get some seeds that are the result of stress-induced male pods on a female.

The only femmed seeds I have here are either freebies sent by seed sources, or my own self-pollinated stress-pod-induced seeds. which I only tend to use in need, and ONLY first generation selfed seeds, to avoid the rapid genetic drift that can arise from selfed seeds.

Natural selection seeds from healthy well-adjusted (not skewed) stable genetics should result in a female to male ratio in seeds of about 60% female and 40% male.

It's often a pain in the ass (when low on motivation and energy as I have been the last several years), but I take 4 clones from each plant from seed when sufficient side branches permit and begin those in my rooting mix while the 'parents' mature.

As each 'parent' plant shows sex, not being into breeding, I cull any males both from the clones and from the parent plants. I delete any risks to unwanted pollination. I'm a functional, pragmatic anti-male sexist.

I typically take 4 clones per plant to adjust for any mortality or disease, thus often ending up with lots of extra female specimens (handy when spring arrives and there's folks looking for high quality clones for personal-use home grows).

In a 72-cube tray insert (1"x1" slots, 6 slots by 12 slots) I skip -all- exterior cubes, keeping those exterior cubes free of my mix and only plant 4 slots deep and 10 slots wide for a total number of clones per tray of 40 instead of 72, rather than the potential 6 deep and 12 wide, so as to keep foliage away from the often very moist plastic dome, as that can sometimes become a breeding place for moisture-born fungal problems.

 

[nohurrygrower]

How much would each plant yield roughly? give an estimate if I flip to 12-12 tonight and do no topping or training, from my original photos, the 2 gals

 

[moose eater]

How much would each plant yield roughly? give an estimate if I flip to 12-12 tonight and do no topping or training, from my original photos, the 2 gals

I don't grow in your style as a rule, so I can only speculate, and that would include experience with your strain, as well as lighting, feed schedule, soil contents, etc..

You have enough internodes to afford some natural side branching, and enough space between plants at this time to not have to deal too much with light deprivation.

I'd -guess- that you might be looking at close to an ounce per plant or maybe a bit more, based on your growing style and space.

Those same plants under proper lighting in a 4'x4' grow box like I run, with my feed and soilless mix, done super crop style and bushed way out with perhaps 8-12 primary colas per plant, might produce upwards of a 3+ oz. each in a box with 5 plants in a 5-dice layout or configuration.

I now run (in each 4'x4' box with a 6.5 to 7-ft. ceiling), one 315 cmh with an LED outdoor flood in each corner, putting out the alleged equivalent of 250 watts each (4 LED floods per box) of incandescent in proper spectrum lighting. 4 boxes total, though the 4th is mobile on casters and only measures a footprint of 3.5' x 3.5 ft. as the shop is limited and fitting in a 4th box years ago caused some compromises for that specific box.

My record under a single 400-watt digital hps with with no corner LEDs and 16 plants in a single 4'x4' box, with all plants planted in Classic 1200 pots, was (if I recall correctly) 22-1/2 oz. of sensi Seeds 1997 California Indica. Those were also super cropped, but not as large as 5 plants in 7-gallon pots and fed more heavily to compensate for the smaller pots.

When I quit commercial involvement a number of years ago, for numerous reasons, my pot sizes went way up, and my overall plant counts went way down. ("Count your blessings, thank the cosmos for protections of the past, and heed the wisdom of age and lethargy")