It's almost time to clean the Fiskar's and get ready for the real work . . . 
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I don't recommend this unless you got environment in check. These low light below canopy wimpy buds are the ones that will end up getting p.m. or bud rot and ruin your crop for .5 oz of wispy nuggets.
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I'll try and get shots before I chop i will probably turn light off (thursday) tomorow and chop Saturday. Not too sure cause I still have that seed plant and the d.b. goes 12 weeks easy . Maybe ill do 1 day darkness or I may just take the grape and leave the cookies for another week
What's the drip problem Matt. Weak pump or blockages? I guess pump, as there are so few decent options for a hand full of emitters. I just put up a thread though as things are changing.
https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuan...e-latest-thing
If you like, post up what you have, and I can try and show you a suitable upgrade. There are tiny quiet pumps that can send water up 7 floors now. The stuff from ponds almost never works with proper emitters
https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuan...e-latest-thing
If you like, post up what you have, and I can try and show you a suitable upgrade. There are tiny quiet pumps that can send water up 7 floors now. The stuff from ponds almost never works with proper emitters
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Small grow just 2x 4x4 tents . I flower both the colder months . During the summer 1 is veg other is flower.
Water comes from gravity fed blumats from a raised daily filled 2.5 gallon bucket with a gromet in the bottom. Just not enough pressure to keep the drippers dripping when a biofilm startsup . I really should set up a pump but it just didn't seem to be the right price at the time I was looking . I have like 10 extra pumps laying around a few little giants($$$) few smaller . Now you have me thinking that I just "lost" 4 or 5oz of premium bud seems kinda silly not to upgrade.
It seemed like quite an expense using a r.v. pump with a pressurized tank. I think in my situation a low flow pump trying to keep pressure around 20 psi may be best . Ideally I would have a nice reservoir 10-20gal the dehumidifier water could drip into and I could fill up weekly. Then set up a float in the 2.5gal ( im in a 2nd story apartment so I cannot use more water than the 5x 20gal Pots could soak up if a runaway happened) Plumbing really isn't accessible anyways definately open to ideas.
I found some browning leafs I really don't care for last evening . I chopped the most affected . I can't tell if its just wind damage. I will definitely will be investigating this weekend and more than likely take the entire crop down.
Looks like you are doing alright, but if you have to buy a few ounces now, the cost equation.. well it's like you said.
Can you put pressure behind a bluemat then, or are you thinking drip system.
Apartments have real noise concerns. I have my dehu hanging by bungee from a clothes pole. Draining into a bucket that lasts a lot longer than the pitiful 3.5L container. Why do they put tiny containers on 20L units. It's daft.
My 'fill her up' thread shows some fittings that screw under a tap to T off 1/4" nylon hose. Like RO machines use. It can lay under carpet to get water around, but only about 2L per minute at that size.
Tent liners not water tight? I don't imagine they are. Perhaps you could make one yourself, using PVC sheet, folded like a bed sheet, taped, and slipped under the liner as protection. You could get many gallons in a tent liner, if it was water tight. Like you, I just keep a days water supply and it's contained if things go wrong. I'm auto filling though, so it's back again every day. Which I'm not always.
Can you put pressure behind a bluemat then, or are you thinking drip system.
Apartments have real noise concerns. I have my dehu hanging by bungee from a clothes pole. Draining into a bucket that lasts a lot longer than the pitiful 3.5L container. Why do they put tiny containers on 20L units. It's daft.
My 'fill her up' thread shows some fittings that screw under a tap to T off 1/4" nylon hose. Like RO machines use. It can lay under carpet to get water around, but only about 2L per minute at that size.
Tent liners not water tight? I don't imagine they are. Perhaps you could make one yourself, using PVC sheet, folded like a bed sheet, taped, and slipped under the liner as protection. You could get many gallons in a tent liner, if it was water tight. Like you, I just keep a days water supply and it's contained if things go wrong. I'm auto filling though, so it's back again every day. Which I'm not always.
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Not really a drip system you can add pressure jjust need to use accumulator tank. .https://www.irrigation.equipment/guide-to-sustainable-village-accumulator-tanks/
My problem is if there's a leak it cannot make it downstairs.. So i will never have more than 10-12 gallons water in the system. 20gal pots sitting at optimum could easily soak up 3 or 4 gallons if there is a runway .
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I wanted to do a soil bed, but I have to be able to tear down in 24hours . That is why I am using the 20 gallon pots . It's tight when I put 4 in the 4x4. .
plants are still up wasn't as bad as I thought maybe wind or ph it happened to everything so more tank likely environment issue
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Was definitely over watering after the dry out. I damn near ripped the handle off the pot picking it up that's what I get for using a meter vs tried and true finger and lift method.
I'm never using bungee cord scrog screen again. What a giant p.i.a. getting 1 plant outta that tent.
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Emptied the blumats going to let c&c go another week or 2 . That one doesn't get too heavy .
my seed looking like pinkkush frame and leaves with chemdog flowers
the 2.0 could get chopped im just going to wait for the hanging stuff to lose some moisture. Does anyone else do that? Add humidity back into drying area . I've found it delays drying just a touch. And that's what we're after. Mines in a 3/4 closed closet in my bedroom. when I sleep its 70. when I leave I set ac for 60 so it takes a while to dry 7-10 days. I like to get it perfect before jarring only needing to burp every few days. The more I fuxk with it the more it loses heads .
2.0 leaf
her mom shoots crystals way farther and more of them but I kept this 2.0 because of the buzz
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Thanks for the link. It's set at the standard Bar, for the bluemats. I expected a lot less.
The heating systems in larger buildings have the same setup. The pressurisation component. The pump tops up the sealed system from the mains. The bag lets it run less often. With heating, the bag also deals with expansion. Where even smaller houses get small versions. Just without the pump.
For a handful of outlets, the RV version could be alright. About 1L in size, the tanks $25 and the pump similar. Loud them diaphragm pumps though. On/Off all the time. Indians will hear that on the train tracks, miles away.
I have done 10 year stints with circulator pumps. Just one of there deployments to. Used 24h a day, they just keep going. Unless I fail.
It seems so wrong, but some of the pumps I was speaking of are classed as booster pumps (it depends on the plumbing connections). They should be fine running constantly. Which feels quite wrong. They even have run-dry protection.
My little 600A3 adds 0.45Bar (4.5Meter) and it's on 24/7 doing filtering duties. That's quite a bit higher than a wardrobe. Just a disposable price. Might get your tank down in the floor, where some of the water is lower than the bluemats. Making leaks a little less damaging. I guess you could just run every hour?
Did you equalise the pressure at each bluemat? Many don't realise, but we should plumb from the pump to an emitter. Then the next. One after another. Ending back at the pump again. The science is that this gives the water two directions to get to each emitter. Route A and Route B. The sum of which is the same at every emitter. Non are further from the pump than others. They all live in a circle supplied from each direction, A&B. Which added together, are the same distance to the pump.
This is especially important where pumps can't meet demand, or gravity is used.
The heating systems in larger buildings have the same setup. The pressurisation component. The pump tops up the sealed system from the mains. The bag lets it run less often. With heating, the bag also deals with expansion. Where even smaller houses get small versions. Just without the pump.
For a handful of outlets, the RV version could be alright. About 1L in size, the tanks $25 and the pump similar. Loud them diaphragm pumps though. On/Off all the time. Indians will hear that on the train tracks, miles away.
I have done 10 year stints with circulator pumps. Just one of there deployments to. Used 24h a day, they just keep going. Unless I fail.
It seems so wrong, but some of the pumps I was speaking of are classed as booster pumps (it depends on the plumbing connections). They should be fine running constantly. Which feels quite wrong. They even have run-dry protection.
My little 600A3 adds 0.45Bar (4.5Meter) and it's on 24/7 doing filtering duties. That's quite a bit higher than a wardrobe. Just a disposable price. Might get your tank down in the floor, where some of the water is lower than the bluemats. Making leaks a little less damaging. I guess you could just run every hour?
Did you equalise the pressure at each bluemat? Many don't realise, but we should plumb from the pump to an emitter. Then the next. One after another. Ending back at the pump again. The science is that this gives the water two directions to get to each emitter. Route A and Route B. The sum of which is the same at every emitter. Non are further from the pump than others. They all live in a circle supplied from each direction, A&B. Which added together, are the same distance to the pump.
This is especially important where pumps can't meet demand, or gravity is used.
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The blumat carrots dictate the flow according to suction on the ceramic cone.
With those big pots I'd be fucking with the timer weekly . Especially since some pots have 4 plants others 1 . The idea behind blumats is you can keep the ideal moisture steady in each pot. This works well for flowering plants, but I use wet dry cycles via hand watering for veg. The roots end up exploding when they get transplanted into the 20gallon pots.
With those big pots I'd be fucking with the timer weekly . Especially since some pots have 4 plants others 1 . The idea behind blumats is you can keep the ideal moisture steady in each pot. This works well for flowering plants, but I use wet dry cycles via hand watering for veg. The roots end up exploding when they get transplanted into the 20gallon pots.
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