This is my first non introductory post so if I offend or disrespect in anyway I apologize in advance, I am just here to learn.
I am 30 days in to a grow that is really a sloppy and quickly thrown together trial run, just to see what some of the problems I might encounter will be when I “really” try, whatever that means. I am nearly done building a cabinet that will be considered my first real attempt. The current trial run is a mash up of FFOF and Recipe420, loosely fertilized / amended in a KIS / Coots hybrid. It’s a mess, but I just threw it together because I was eager to get something rolling, to start learning from mistakes. I am ready to start my soil for my next grow and I wanted to run something by anyone with more experience than I, as I have very little.
As a result of throwing things together quickly I have a few things that aren’t being listed as part of either Coot’s or the KIS recipe, I couldn’t see the harm in adding them, but if there is no reason to, or better yet good reason not to, then I certainly would rather not. This is the list of ferts / amendments I have currently not in the version of Coot’s mix I am looking at. I was fortunate enough to immediately recognize that 50# bags were the only way that made sense to buy anything, and then went and locally sourced what I could and ordered what I couldn’t. I would like to find a safe use for these things. The 3 things I definitely want to try to incorporate into my soil or a foliar schedule are alfalfa meal, karanja meal, and insect frass.
Karanja Meal
Alfalfa Meal
Insect Frass
Cal-Phos (Soft Rock Phosphate)
Sul-Po-Mag (Granular, not sure if there is a finer powdered version?)
9-3-1 Bat Guano
0-11-0 Seabird Guano
Fish Bone Meal
I have read some things that give me the strong impression that alfalfa meal is something I should be using in my garden both in the soil and in teas for foliar application, so I am trying to figure out how to work this into my soil or schedule to best benefit from it. I operate under the impression that it contains a growth hormone and it can burn my plants if not used carefully, but thats about as much as I have looked into it.
I have read that neem and karanja work well together, almost synergistically, however I have not gone the extra mile to confirm this with literature documenting scientific evidence, however I am operating under the impression that having both is always preferential to having only one.
I have read and heard nothing but good things about insect frass. I haven’t seen much regarding its use as a tea, but as I type that I feel like I haven’t looked well enough to say that with any confidence really… but I would like to use it in my soil as I am under the impression it increases microbial diversity, chitin, and other micronutrients.
Everything else I have not strong desire to use in my soils. The guanos I would like to figure a foliar or nutrient tea based use for, if that makes any sense to do. I will gladly use them in my soils if there is a benefit, but even by wanting to add these 3 things, I feel like a jerk, wanting to tamper with a tried and tested recipe.
I have checked several archived stickied posts and despite going through several pages of consolidated soil recipes I couldn’t find an answer to this question. If it has been answered before I apologize, and if you could point me in that direction I would appreciate it. I feel pretty safe adding all 3 of these things, but it would be great if anyone can confirm or share amounts per cf.
Thanks
-Dis
I am 30 days in to a grow that is really a sloppy and quickly thrown together trial run, just to see what some of the problems I might encounter will be when I “really” try, whatever that means. I am nearly done building a cabinet that will be considered my first real attempt. The current trial run is a mash up of FFOF and Recipe420, loosely fertilized / amended in a KIS / Coots hybrid. It’s a mess, but I just threw it together because I was eager to get something rolling, to start learning from mistakes. I am ready to start my soil for my next grow and I wanted to run something by anyone with more experience than I, as I have very little.
As a result of throwing things together quickly I have a few things that aren’t being listed as part of either Coot’s or the KIS recipe, I couldn’t see the harm in adding them, but if there is no reason to, or better yet good reason not to, then I certainly would rather not. This is the list of ferts / amendments I have currently not in the version of Coot’s mix I am looking at. I was fortunate enough to immediately recognize that 50# bags were the only way that made sense to buy anything, and then went and locally sourced what I could and ordered what I couldn’t. I would like to find a safe use for these things. The 3 things I definitely want to try to incorporate into my soil or a foliar schedule are alfalfa meal, karanja meal, and insect frass.
Karanja Meal
Alfalfa Meal
Insect Frass
Cal-Phos (Soft Rock Phosphate)
Sul-Po-Mag (Granular, not sure if there is a finer powdered version?)
9-3-1 Bat Guano
0-11-0 Seabird Guano
Fish Bone Meal
I have read some things that give me the strong impression that alfalfa meal is something I should be using in my garden both in the soil and in teas for foliar application, so I am trying to figure out how to work this into my soil or schedule to best benefit from it. I operate under the impression that it contains a growth hormone and it can burn my plants if not used carefully, but thats about as much as I have looked into it.
I have read that neem and karanja work well together, almost synergistically, however I have not gone the extra mile to confirm this with literature documenting scientific evidence, however I am operating under the impression that having both is always preferential to having only one.
I have read and heard nothing but good things about insect frass. I haven’t seen much regarding its use as a tea, but as I type that I feel like I haven’t looked well enough to say that with any confidence really… but I would like to use it in my soil as I am under the impression it increases microbial diversity, chitin, and other micronutrients.
Everything else I have not strong desire to use in my soils. The guanos I would like to figure a foliar or nutrient tea based use for, if that makes any sense to do. I will gladly use them in my soils if there is a benefit, but even by wanting to add these 3 things, I feel like a jerk, wanting to tamper with a tried and tested recipe.
I have checked several archived stickied posts and despite going through several pages of consolidated soil recipes I couldn’t find an answer to this question. If it has been answered before I apologize, and if you could point me in that direction I would appreciate it. I feel pretty safe adding all 3 of these things, but it would be great if anyone can confirm or share amounts per cf.
Thanks
-Dis