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igrowone

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not long at all, big win on this one, copied from the nbcnews.com site

That Dog Won't Hunt: Cops Can't Keep You Waiting for K-9s, Supreme Court Says


By M. Alex Johnson Cops can't continue to hold a suspect without probable cause even for the few minutes they might need to wait for a drug-sniffing dog to show up, the Supreme Court said Tuesday.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote for the 6-3 majority that if a traffic stop is otherwise completed, holding on to the suspect any longer violates the constitutional protection against unreasonable searches and seizures.



The case, Rodriguez v. United States, involves the valid traffic stop of Dennys Rodriguez after he swerved over a highway shoulder line in Valley, Nebraska, in March 2012. Once Officer Morgan Struble had completed writing a warning, he then kept Rodriguez by the side of the road for seven or eight minutes waiting for the dog to show up and sniff the car for possible drugs.
The dog found meth, and Rodriguez was indicted and convicted. But Ginsburg wrote that Struble didn't have probable cause to search the vehicle, and that by dallying long enough for the dog to arrive and provide probable case, he violated the Constitution.
Justices Clarence Thomas, Anthony Kennedy and Samuel Alito dissented on the grounds that such a brief stop "is hardly out of the ordinary for a traffic stop by a single officer of a vehicle containing multiple occupants even when no dog sniff is involved."
In an additional dissent, Alito warned that officers would quickly figure out a way to slow the process of checking a driver's license and registration and writing up a ticket to give the K-9 unit time to arrive.
"I would love to be the proverbial fly on the wall when police instructors teach this rule to officers who make traffic stops," Alito wrote.
 

armedoldhippy

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"fly on the wall"

"fly on the wall"

the judges should sit down and measure how much time it takes to write a ticket. put those cocksuckers on the clock & get on with it. if it takes them one minute longer, all evidence seized is thrown out, and the ticket they wrote is null and void. no vehicle confiscations, no fines, no towing fees. do your damn job, and do it NOW!
 

Miraculous Meds

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the judges should sit down and measure how much time it takes to write a ticket. put those cocksuckers on the clock & get on with it. if it takes them one minute longer, all evidence seized is thrown out, and the ticket they wrote is null and void. no vehicle confiscations, no fines, no towing fees. do your damn job, and do it NOW!

Amen brother! Its kind of disheartening to see the response of a couple of those judges that responded like whats the point, they are just gonna cheat the system and take intentionally longer to write tickets. How bout holding them accountable for doing their fuking job!
 

Pinball Wizard

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go-go Ruth Ginsberg...I bet it was her idea :chin:



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igrowone

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the judges should sit down and measure how much time it takes to write a ticket. put those cocksuckers on the clock & get on with it. if it takes them one minute longer, all evidence seized is thrown out, and the ticket they wrote is null and void. no vehicle confiscations, no fines, no towing fees. do your damn job, and do it NOW!

i do believe(perhaps optimistically) that will happen
unreasonable times, whatever that means, will taint a case so that the expense won't seem worth it
but do count on the system being gamed, just like it always has been
it's not perfect, but this is a very nice step forward
 
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