?????How long do you flush????

[Scrogerman]

Great info BadDog, i think plants can/will take an 'Excess' of certain elements, over-eat & store, the point of flushing is to get the plant to use this 'Excess', so Final product doesnt spoil, with these excess stores. Ive always noticed this when High/Higher EC levels are used, its not always nessasary to push plants to their & over their limits, i dont get why people do this, this is when ive found final product can & will spoil. Overfeeding only has an overall negative effect. The Cure is the important part like you said above!

Ive used GHRipen(forcing solution) at high EC & it ruined the product completely. All i could taste was Sulpher, terrible tasting Bud, i flushed for 5 days on that occasion(DWC), i know i should of flushed for longer. An example of what can happen. I used GHRipen again at a much lower EC(same Pheno) & that nasty sulpher taste was no-where to be seen, 7 day flush on that occasion. iirc GHR is 3% S. It could of been something else causing the nasty flavour, but it reminded me of S, it was certainly using GHR at a high EC that caused the issue. Others have reported the same problem using GHR.

G'luck

 

[Strainhunter]

How long have you been growing??
.....

I could have asked you the same question....but I am not here to get in to a pissing contest...with anyone.

 

[ManitobaMedical]

I think that if u stop feeding and give em just tap h2o for last couple weeks. - I would say on an indica I go 70-74 days and for the 2 weeks no food just ph balanced h2o, final products speaks for itself ,last h20 is ice h20 and I turn the a/c way down and total darkness for a couple days b4 I chop em. drying / curing very very IMPORTANT also.
another thing is your market who is using the stuff, ,if they wont be able to tell if you flushed then they might not be the most seasoned vets(coneseurs). The way I see it is If I can tell , they could tell, and I try for the best I can get , just like most growers,lol
MAnitoba

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Baddog, have to ever noticed whether your ash is white? What about black particulate in the ash? Have you ever had weed that wouldn't burn well? Or sparked a little? Plain water will reduce black ash and sparking/crackling. It'll taste better if you're using chem nutes.

It is also possible to deprive ferts too soon.

 

[simon]

I voted less, as in not at all.

Simon

 

[Scrogerman]

I voted less, as in not at all.

Simon

? what you mean, no flush simon? even nute hog plants that been given thier desires & more/pushed>?
in that case then plants dont hog nutes>? is that what you mean?

 

[simon]

? what you mean, no flush simon? even nute hog plants that been given thier desires & more/pushed>?
in that case then plants dont hog nutes>? is that what you mean?

I mean that I don't flush. The nutrient regiment varies throughout the cycle, decreasing toward harvest (after seeing a spike in concentration during weeks 5-6), with no other effort made to run water, etc through the pots.

Simon

 

[Kcar]

10 days

 

[Scrogerman]

I mean that I don't flush. The nutrient regiment varies throughout the cycle, decreasing toward harvest (after seeing a spike in concentration during weeks 5-6), with no other effort made to run water, etc through the pots.

Simon

Cool man, you run soil i presume, Organic?. Manage your nute/irrigation regimin in such a way that you dont require any kind of Flush. Would you say the same in all mediums/systems? Thanks for your reply bro
I see theres a lot of difference of opinion again, i still say it depends!

Best of Luck!

 

[simon]

Cool man, you run soil i presume, Organic?. Manage your nute/irrigation regimin in such a way that you dont require any kind of Flush. Would you say the same in all mediums/systems? Thanks for your reply bro
I see theres a lot of difference of opinion again, i still say it depends!

Best of Luck!

I grow in soil (Pro-Mix) and use Jack's Classic ferts. I've been working with essentially the same setup (room/strains/ferts) for a while. For me, it comes down to knowing the plants and the fertilizer. I feed with every watering, starting with small doses and then working up over time. Typically, it takes me 3 runs to get a strain to where I want it. I've flushed, I've run nothing but water for the last 2 weeks, and this seems to work best all the way around. This being said, I would not suggest this to everyone. Too many variables to account for. Similarly, I wouldn't necessarily suggest flushing in each in every case. For example, if one is growing nute-tolerant strain in soil and the grower is very conservative with the feeding, then I'd suggest reducing the nutrient concentration to ~30% during the last week, and ~60-70% the week before, as starting points.

When I grow a new strain, the fert testing process starts all over. I see how far the plants can be pushed and try to establish a baseline for the next run, if there is one. One of the reasons I like growing is the predictability: the plants are vegged for XX days, flowered for X weeks, fed a specific amount broken down by week, and harvested on schedule. This isn't to say that everything always works out 100%. It doesn't. lol

There are almost as many garden configurations as there are growers. We know our own setups best, we're all have access to the same information, and ultimately it comes down to the individual grower to make the decision.

All the best you you, as well,
Simon

 

[Scrogerman]

You have it down to a fine art & know management & nute regimins etc. Thats what its all about knowing & getting to know your plants requirements.
Nice One Simon bro! Cheers!

 

[Theicedjoker]

WOW good points all this is Why i made this thread

 

[Theicedjoker]

bump bump up and up

 

[vStagger Leev]

I use my miracle grow right up to the last day.

that cant be healthy... are you serious lion?

 

[Theicedjoker]

thats what im saying

 

[Yes4Prop215]

i use something similar to moonshine mix..FFOF/FFLW/perlite with no amendments......i stop feeding after week 6, then its clearex once a week and straight water every 2-3 days.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

i dont think flushing is a myth. my buddys been growing GDP for years, in hydro, using a bunch of nutes like gravity, kool bloom, etc.

usually his bud always looked good, but had a chemmy taste when smoking. it tasted kinda like fish to be honest. he was only flushing 2-3 days. alot of other commercial growers dont flush either and their bud tastes like crap.


now he flushes 1-2 weeks and his GDP tastes like candy lavender and the smell translates to taste better.

also, ive noticed that buds i chop directly from the plant without flushing always taste nutey. its hard to describe the taste, buts its usually harsher and doesnt taste like the smell at all.

now i flush 2 weeks minimum and i get that minty lemon taste i like....

who knows maybe its placebo, but i think flushing definately helps improve the smell to taste translation..

 

[Storm Shadow]

Feeding your plants a bunch of crap it doesnt need...then a flush might not be a bad idea...but when your feeding the plant a perfect well balanced meal...there's no need to deprive a healthy plant of its energy source...especially at the end of flowering...

Spurr's Nute Mix is mind blowing

 

[2cents]

imo flushing is needed alot more in hydro than organic soil..

nothing is worse than unflushed hydro that wont burn..

that said, going all organic i usually flush for 7-10 days, but if i skip flushing the difference is very small

 

[vStagger Leev]

imo flushing is needed alot more in hydro than organic soil..

nothing is worse than unflushed hydro that wont burn..

that said, going all organic i usually flush for 7-10 days, but if i skip flushing the difference is very small

True. I agree the difference can be very small, but if you've ever flushed for 2 full weeks in organics, you will have some clean burning flavorful smoke!