House & Garden Nutrients

[LEDNewbie]

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Hey bud. Are you saying that your plants got nice and green because now you wait 15 minutes inbetween mixing part A and part B?

I've just started doing this as my ppp seedlings are in coco now.... add Fascilitor and mix, mix A, wait 15, mix B, wait 15 and then add drip clean and mix, then Aptus Start boost.

Going to brew a og biowar tea today that way its ready for Monday or Tuesday. Looking forward to trying out the tea!

 

[Irie_Lion]

I've never waited 15-20 mins in btween to mix part a then b etc. I just add some part A, shake vigorously for a min or 2 and then add B and do the same with it. After my base mixed I add in the additves and then ph. Good to go after that an haven't encountered a prob yet doin this way...are u saying if I wait longer to mix the diff parts id get better results than already gettin?

 

[MsMileHigh]

I've never waited 15-20 mins in btween to mix part a then b etc. I just add some part A, shake vigorously for a min or 2 and then add B and do the same with it. After my base mixed I add in the additves and then ph. Good to go after that an haven't encountered a prob yet doin this way...are u saying if I wait longer to mix the diff parts id get better results than already gettin?

Have you ever checked the ph again after you added the additives?

 

[socialist]

I've never waited 15-20 mins in btween to mix part a then b etc. I just add some part A, shake vigorously for a min or 2 and then add B and do the same with it. After my base mixed I add in the additves and then ph. Good to go after that an haven't encountered a prob yet doin this way...are u saying if I wait longer to mix the diff parts id get better results than already gettin?

I'm guessing they want you to wait so people like myself who are mixing 25+ gallons at a time are allowing proper mixing.

Have you ever checked the ph again after you added the additives?

I'm going to be changing my res in the next few hours I'll try this out and let you know how it works for me. I am only using A+B Aqua Flakes and DC right now so it may be different from your experience because of the lack of additives as well.

 

[socialist]

Why doesn't H&G's calculator default the last week as flush? This is how others I've seen do it. Not saying you shouldn't flush, just curious.

 

[BigGreen]

Hey bud. Are you saying that your plants got nice and green because now you wait 15 minutes inbetween mixing part A and part B?

I've just started doing this as my ppp seedlings are in coco now.... add Fascilitor and mix, mix A, wait 15, mix B, wait 15 and then add drip clean and mix, then Aptus Start boost.

Going to brew a og biowar tea today that way its ready for Monday or Tuesday. Looking forward to trying out the tea!

Yes. I was mixing just like lion and was recommended to wait 15 min after A and 15 min after B and the plants look very happy and much greener. All with in the week I started doing it like that

Led you have to use the tea right away do not let it sit. If anything let it keep bubbling til your gonna use it

 

[Perpetual Nooch]

Will drip clean do any good in Promix? I usually water to runoff and it's been good but still a pain in the ass so I want to just water with enough solution to soak without runoff. Will adding drip clean aid me when doing this?

 

[MaynardG_Krebs]

Will drip clean do any good in Promix? I usually water to runoff and it's been good but still a pain in the ass so I want to just water with enough solution to soak without runoff. Will adding drip clean aid me when doing this?

Yes.. But you should still have some runoff..

mgk

 

[Irie_Lion]

Have you ever checked the ph again after you added the additives?

Yea its not within range when I'm using ro so I have to ph up. I do that last. I've always done it that way with or w/o the additives (a&b along with dc).

I'm guessing they want you to wait so people like myself who are mixing 25+ gallons at a time are allowing proper mixing.

I'm going to be changing my res in the next few hours I'll try this out and let you know how it works for me. I am only using A+B Aqua Flakes and DC right now so it may be different from your experience because of the lack of additives as well.

Yea never thought bout that...good point. I mix up 10-15 gal at a time ever 2-3days. I have some 5 gal jugs that I use to mix in so that when I'm runnin diff strains with longer flower and using additves they get right recipe.
Let me know what you find out...thanks

 

[Caravaggio]

We toss in an average of 8ml per gal of A into our 32 gal resevoirs. We keep a hose and sump pump in it running for about 5 mins, then we toss in B, wait a couple more mins and then toss in our Bud XL. Thats all we use. Then we Ph to 6.0

No issues here.

 

[socialist]

So when I changed out last night all solution to be dumped was right around 6.0 after one week. I mixed my nutes up as directed and set my pH to 5.0 after adding Drip Clean it stayed at 5.0

 

[LEDNewbie]

Yes. I was mixing just like lion and was recommended to wait 15 min after A and 15 min after B and the plants look very happy and much greener. All with in the week I started doing it like that

Led you have to use the tea right away do not let it sit. If anything let it keep bubbling til your gonna use it

OK thanks. Guess I'll go and plug my air bubbler back in. Won't use tea till tomorrow morning. That will be like a 40 hour brew. Hope that's not too long?

 

[MaynardG_Krebs]

So when I changed out last night all solution to be dumped was right around 6.0 after one week. I mixed my nutes up as directed and set my pH to 5.0 after adding Drip Clean it stayed at 5.0

Why are you going for 5.0? That seems a little low to me.. Maybe my old brain is failing me, but I usually go for about 5.8..

mgk

 

[Biatchzxz]

Yeah as far the Protekt deal adding it first your probably right on that issue because I actually just got some Fascilitator By Aptus and it has to be added first as well before any base nutes so I think it's the same with the protekt. Never used protekt so I wasn't sure but I'm pretty sure that its a good idea to use it first before mixing the base nutes and also the questions about sea green and drip clean what I do is Ill use Drip clean one feeding and then Ill use Sea green the next feeding. But I don't EVER mix them together. Just going to cause problems. So just a heads up on that

Big I'm glad to hear that your plants are green and healthy now hopefully it's because you followed the way I told you to and it was successful. That would make me feel great knowing I helped a fellow icmagger


socialist this is def correct and a good point. Because just think about it. That's a lot of base nutes in a lot of water so it will Def help to wait


Irie lion. I don't know if it would be better or anything. But it will just ensure that all is mixed in and has time to settle in the water before adding Part B so you won't have an Lockout issues. So I guess in turn it would or could be that it would work better. Try it out one or two times and see if you think it worked out. Not saying what your doing is wrong. Obviously it's working for you. But who knows though maybe some stuff isn't getting absorbed and you haven't seen any issues yet or Ever. But it can't hurt to give it a try just an extra 26min you have to wait total lol and you know 100% that its def mixed in there properly.



That's my 2 Cents people. Thanks everyone for keeping this thread very Informative and helpful to everyone. Much love

 

[MsMileHigh]

Yeah as far the Protekt deal adding it first your probably right on that issue because I actually just got some Fascilitator By Aptus and it has to be added first as well before any base nutes so I think it's the same with the protekt. Never used protekt so I wasn't sure but I'm pretty sure that its a good idea to use it first before mixing the base nutes and also the questions about sea green and drip clean what I do is Ill use Drip clean one feeding and then Ill use Sea green the next feeding. But I don't EVER mix them together. Just going to cause problems. So just a heads up on that

Big I'm glad to hear that your plants are green and healthy now hopefully it's because you followed the way I told you to and it was successful. That would make me feel great knowing I helped a fellow icmagger

Im gonna start doing the same and alternate the sea green and DC.But what problems does it cause when you use them together?

 

[BigGreen]

Are you guys using calmag product if running RO water???
Im using calimagic at 1 ml per gal and it just doesnt seem like enough. I was using 2 ml per and they seemed to like it better. Then I here I dont need it with H&G and RO water.
So much direction
My RO is 0-10 ppm Im thinking of running 150-200 ppm cal mag before A & B

Any ideas??

BG

 

[Biatchzxz]

MisMileHigh

Im gonna start doing the same and alternate the sea green and DC.But what problems does it cause when you use them together?

Because basically they are similar products. Just a tad different.
What sea green does is take the excess salt built up and convert it into useable nutrients the plants can absorb

Drip clean basically Blocks the salts from being Absorbed at all.

So both are great products in there own way. But pretty similar so you wouldn't want to 1.Double up on the same Nutrients like you would any other additives or whatever So you don't want to use them both in the same nutrient mixture. You can possibly cause issues. Deficiencys and PH Out of wack. I'm sure if you do it once you won't necc see negative results right away but maybe down the line yes. Listen I'm not saying this is a 100% no no. But it's def just suggested to use one or the other. And or just switch between the two. Ill be honest.i actually haven't gave my ladies a dose of Sea green in a while. I kind of forgot I had it and 2 I just zoned out. Lol. I def will give em a little next plain watering time. Shit foams up like a mofo right lol



BigGreen -

Are you guys using calmag product if running RO water???
Im using calimagic at 1 ml per gal and it just doesnt seem like enough. I was using 2 ml per and they seemed to like it better. Then I here I dont need it with H&G and RO water.
So much direction
My RO is 0-10 ppm Im thinking of running 150-200 ppm cal mag before A & B

Any ideas??

BG

What I do and suggest. Is here and there during my plain watering a once and a while. Ill just add 2-5ml a gallon and give em s dose. Maybe once every other week or even once every 3 weeks. Depending on strain of course really is a big factor. Some really use it more than others. Mine are calmag whores so I figure Bette be safe than sorry and tell you the truth I'm glad I did. Cause I haven't dosed them in a while and I saw a slight deficient. But Thats just me. Truth is h&g def has one of the higher % of cal. Mag than any other base. So you shouldn't" really" need to. But a dose here and there can't hurt just for "Prevention" iMo so try that just to be safe

 

[Peacheater81]

You will need some calmag 2-3mls/gal in veg and early flower

 

[otis33]

Are you guys using calmag product if running RO water???
Im using calimagic at 1 ml per gal and it just doesnt seem like enough. I was using 2 ml per and they seemed to like it better. Then I here I dont need it with H&G and RO water.
So much direction
My RO is 0-10 ppm Im thinking of running 150-200 ppm cal mag before A & B

Any ideas??

BG

Are you running coco? If so, I would try to add a tea spoon/5 gal of Epsom salts. The calcium in h& g is pretty high, definitely should be enough, but it's mag is very low in relation to calcium. I just add the epsoms as a preventative and even my most cal mag hungry girls are green and healthy. I others have suggested one gram per gallon of Epsom.

 

[BigGreen]

Thanks guys

Yes Otis Im in coco 13 days veg under 1ks co2 800 ppm. EC was 1.2 ph 5.9.
Did a rez change out and upped the cal mag to 2 ml and 6 ml A & B ec 1.46
Im thinking they may want more

Heres what they looked like this morning







Thanks again for all the pointers

BG