HELP! Mama w/ cancer hates the taste of canna oil

[G.O. Joe]

It is absorbed, it's absorbed through the mucus in the intestinal tract. It don't get you high because it bypasses the liver.

So smoking doesn't get you high because, wait, it does get you high because, uh, what's the spin on that again?

Give mom a urinalysis after suppositories and see how dirty she is.

I believe it's already prescribed in this form too in some places.

No. Not the natural cannabinoids, for sure.

There's plenty of information on this subject online.

Yes there's plenty of bullshitters with polished turds, and turd polishers. I even see some alleged Dr. on PBS of all places while flipping channels, telling an audience that gluten is the devil and we've got to listen to him and stop eating it. But I'm one of those think for yourself commies - you'll have to pry my gluten out of my cold dead hands.

Fact is, if you put the natural cannabinoids on your arms or up your butt, they ain't going anywhere. You will not find anything resembling science saying anything different.

The insolubility of cannabinoids is a major hurdle in using them for medical purposes. I assume that smoking is a freak route of administration enabled by the weirdness of the lungs and the aerosol form, but that still doesn't mean that the 20 milligrams of inhaled cannabinoids in your blood is magnetically attracted to tumors. Big pharma makes weird unnatural cannabinoids not so much to own patents and make billions but because those are bioavailable.

 

[Dandelion Roots]

two things i've found mask really well together.

Coconut oil and Cocoa powder or butter.

so my suggestion is make capsules and use raw coconut oil + cocoa butter as the "filler" oil.

this will make the capsale "taste" like a fancy chocolate (not exact, but similar), only issue where the Taste will be an issue is when burping.

To avoid that, you need a baked product. I would suggest something simple like banana bread with cocoa powder added. Some patients will experiance pulsing, to avoid this mix fats. go against normal baking logic, don't cream your sugar with the butter. infused the fats evenly (fats meaning butter, coconut oil + the eggs in the baking before mixing in dry stuff) and mix the sugar and extra cocoa power with dry before you combine.

I’m going to have to incorporate my stoner grower baker boyfriend on this task!

 

[Maple_Flail]

I’m going to have to incorporate my stoner grower baker boyfriend on this task!

I'll share my quick and easy recipe.

this recipt the way I make it, produces 48 mini muffin about the size of two bite brownies (i use 2x mini muffin sheets 24 in each) easy portioning and dosing

3 bananas (too mushy to eat but not spoiled)
1 cup flour
1/3 cup complete pancake mix (stuff you just add water too)
1/4 cup cocoa powder (I mix half dutch process cocoa and non dutch process cocoa, easier on the old stomach, also personal taste)
3/4 cup brown sugar
1/4 cup butter
1/4 cup liquid coconut oil
1 egg
1/2 tsp baking soda
pinch of salt
1/2 tsp Vanilla extract

Optional: 1/3 cup of Extras (toss ins, like chocolate chips, dried fruit, coconut flake etc stuff to fancy it up)

mix dry together making sure no lumps.

using a handmixer or baby food maker or magic bullet, basically liquify/sludgify the bananas.. I aim for a smooth banana soft serve consistancy.

in a seperate bowl melt the butter and add coconut oil, add your canna/cbd oil and let cool to room temp before you add the beaten egg. I add the vanilla right before I combine with dry.

Pre heat the oven to 350*f, grease/butter the mini muffin pans (I dispise muffin cups so I don't use them, and feel they turn out better without them)

this recipe without extras will half fill 48 mini muffins, I also tend to go the lazy way for my personal bake and just mix my decarbed bud in the fats and just leave them in. if i'm going fullspectrum I might as well have the entire thing right? (you can mix almost a half ounce of bud in this much fat, if you grind it fine before decarb )

Bake for 16-20 minutes, I go by touch to evaluate doneness.
soft and mushy = not done yet
Spongy and firm top = done

with my oven mine are done in just over 18 mins. They will have a shelf life of about 6 days without refrigeration. close to 3 weeks with refrigeration if not longer. Can be frozen although i would advice against vacuum sealing bag as smooshed and frozen they are not quite as good after wards.. makes them too dense.

Hope this helps.

 

[GGNo2]

So smoking doesn't get you high because, wait, it does get you high because, uh, what's the spin on that again?

Give mom a urinalysis after suppositories and see how dirty she is.



No. Not the natural cannabinoids, for sure.



Yes there's plenty of bullshitters with polished turds, and turd polishers. I even see some alleged Dr. on PBS of all places while flipping channels, telling an audience that gluten is the devil and we've got to listen to him and stop eating it. But I'm one of those think for yourself commies - you'll have to pry my gluten out of my cold dead hands.

Fact is, if you put the natural cannabinoids on your arms or up your butt, they ain't going anywhere. You will not find anything resembling science saying anything different.

The insolubility of cannabinoids is a major hurdle in using them for medical purposes. I assume that smoking is a freak route of administration enabled by the weirdness of the lungs and the aerosol form, but that still doesn't mean that the 20 milligrams of inhaled cannabinoids in your blood is magnetically attracted to tumors. Big pharma makes weird unnatural cannabinoids not so much to own patents and make billions but because those are bioavailable.

Look I ain't going to pretend I'm an expert. my girlfriends sister had cervical cancer and she used oil made for her by another chap who had survived cancer.
His advice was to use rectal application as it advised to him and well you know it only saved his life... Oh and my girlfriends sister also was given the all clear after using cannabis extracts rectally recently.
By all means keep telling me its not effective as medication used this way, it means very little to me.

 

[I'mback]

The reason it doesn't get you high is because it isn't absorbed. Like shit and porn star's vaseline. Your colon is set up to absorb water, not gum.

So smoking doesn't get you high because, wait, it does get you high because, uh, what's the spin on that again?

Give mom a urinalysis after suppositories and see how dirty she is.



No. Not the natural cannabinoids, for sure.



Yes there's plenty of bullshitters with polished turds, and turd polishers. I even see some alleged Dr. on PBS of all places while flipping channels, telling an audience that gluten is the devil and we've got to listen to him and stop eating it. But I'm one of those think for yourself commies - you'll have to pry my gluten out of my cold dead hands.

Fact is, if you put the natural cannabinoids on your arms or up your butt, they ain't going anywhere. You will not find anything resembling science saying anything different.

The insolubility of cannabinoids is a major hurdle in using them for medical purposes. I assume that smoking is a freak route of administration enabled by the weirdness of the lungs and the aerosol form, but that still doesn't mean that the 20 milligrams of inhaled cannabinoids in your blood is magnetically attracted to tumors. Big pharma makes weird unnatural cannabinoids not so much to own patents and make billions but because those are bioavailable.

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about, sorry!

I decarb my flowers. Cap in a size 00 cap and insert. 20-30 min later, lift off for the next 5-6 hrs. Give it a whirl, you might actually enjoy it

 

[CimbaKat]

Went through this with our mother In law... were giving her RSO and CBD Oil (Lazarus Naturals full spec). She was taking the regiment daily and eventually stopped as she got worse and acted like a child. We couldn't be there every day because we had a newborn and my wife's brother was MIA during this whole ordeal. She had Stage for stomach cancer, she was given 2 months, she started chemo (we were against it), she was stable and groeths were shrinking when taking RSO and CBD oil in conjunction with chemotherapy. Then she stopped and metastasized like crazy. Shed have no problem taking pills but when it came to weed she thought we were morons more or less... then she started vaping whenever offered and was more compliant. Was hard as fuck to deal with. We lost her July 15. Shit was tough...

Wed do CBD oil with food and drink to chase the flavors be like Ensure and CBD oil or Gatorade and CBD oil.. They also do CBD oil with flavoring like peppermint, etc. To hide the taste. I recommend then. RSO was in capsuls so it was no problem but she got stupid high from taking .6 of some serious RSO.... like hospitalization type high. This discouraged her for a week, I was pissed, I listened to my cousin and went against my gut.

I recommend the flavored oil, vape herb and RSO on the gums incase digestion is hard.

 

[indagroove]

Went through this with our mother In law... were giving her RSO and CBD Oil (Lazarus Naturals full spec). She was taking the regiment daily and eventually stopped as she got worse and acted like a child. We couldn't be there every day because we had a newborn and my wife's brother was MIA during this whole ordeal. She had Stage for stomach cancer, she was given 2 months, she started chemo (we were against it), she was stable and groeths were shrinking when taking RSO and CBD oil in conjunction with chemotherapy. Then she stopped and metastasized like crazy. Shed have no problem taking pills but when it came to weed she thought we were morons more or less... then she started vaping whenever offered and was more compliant. Was hard as fuck to deal with. We lost her July 15. Shit was tough...

Sorry to hear of your loss. I went through a similar situation a few years ago.

 

[Gry]

It was I who spoke incompletely with respect to the issue of suppositories and cannabis.
G.O. Joe is incredibly well educated and informed on the chemistry of cannabis.
The subject of suppositories and is fascinating and what one finds through reading is that there methods of enhancing the bio-availability which can and should be used.
Here is an interesting article- the comments below it were excellent:
https://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/recreational-rectal-use-cannabis-science/
Below, is what has long been considered a gold standard on the subject:
Rectal bioavailability of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol from the ... - NCBI
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › pubmedby MA ElSohly - ‎1991 - ‎Cited by 33 - ‎Related articles
This is too important a subject to jump through quickly.

 

[G.O. Joe]

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about, sorry!

I decarb my flowers. Cap in a size 00 cap and insert. 20-30 min later, lift off for the next 5-6 hrs. Give it a whirl, you might actually enjoy it

Oh you're sticking buds in your butt? What about all the others promoting suppositories because they don't get you high as we've been talking about. Who else is talking about sticking buds up their butt? It never occurred to me to do such a thing. It's new to me and I admit anything is possible. I'm sure I went too far with my statement about skin, since there must be transdermal vehicles already available for forcing lipophilic drugs from fat cells in the skin to the bloodstream in some way.

The internet should get it together and decide whether anal cannabinoids get you high or not. Vehicle, form, placement, important or not?