Have you looked at the North Pole lately?
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the latest global temperatures
the globe is not cooling, but of course many don't need to be told this
they can feel it when they step outside
Temperatures In the atmosphere, 500-millibar height pressure anomalies correlate well with temperatures at the Earth's surface. The average position of the upper-level ridges of high pressure and troughs of low pressure—depicted by positive and negative 500-millibar height anomalies on the August 2018 and June–August 2018 maps—is generally reflected by areas of positive and negative temperature anomalies at the surface, respectively.
August
August 2018 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Anomalies in degrees Celsius
August 2018 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Percentiles
August 2018 was characterized by warmer- to much-warmer-than-average conditions across much of the world's land and ocean surfaces. Record warm temperatures were present across parts of each major ocean basin, with the largest portions across the Barents Sea and the western Pacific Ocean, and small areas across Africa, Asia, Europe, and North America. During the month, the most notable temperature departures from average were present across Europe, central Asia, the northeastern contiguous U.S., and southeastern Canada, where temperatures were 2.0°C (3.6°F) above average or higher. In contrast, the most notable cool land temperature departures from average were present across northern Canada and parts of southern South America where temperatures were 1.5°C (2.7°F) below average or lower. No land or ocean areas had record cold August temperatures. Averaged as a whole, the global land and surface temperature for August 2018 was the fifth highest August temperature since global records began in 1880 at 0.74°C (1.33°F) above the 20th century average of 15.6°C (60.1°F). This was the smallest global land and ocean surface temperature since 2013. Nine of the ten warmest August global land and ocean surface temperatures have occurred since 2009, with the last five years (2014–2018) comprising the five warmest on record. The record warmest August occurred in 2016, with a temperature departure from average of +0.90°C (+1.62°F). August 1998 is the only 20th century August among the ten warmest Augusts on record, ranking as the seventh highest on record at +0.68°C (+1.22°F). August 2018 also marks the 42nd consecutive August and the 404th consecutive month with temperatures, at least nominally, above the 20th century average.
The globally-averaged land surface temperature during August 2018 was 0.94°C (1.69°F) above the 20th century average of 13.8°C (56.9°F)—the sixth highest August global land temperature in the 139-year record. Nine of the ten warmest August global land temperatures have occurred since 2001, with August 1998 the only 20th century August among the ten warmest Augusts on record. The highest global land August temperature occurred in 2016 at +1.28°C (+2.30°F). According to NCEI's Regional Analysis, two of six continents had an August temperature that ranked among the six warmest Augusts on record, with Europe having its warmest August on record. North America had its smallest temperature departure from average for August since 2009. South America and Africa's August 2018 temperature departure from average was the smallest since 2013.
Select national information is highlighted below. Please note that different countries report anomalies with respect to different base periods. The information provided here is based directly upon these data:
ENSO-neutral conditions persisted across the tropical Pacific Ocean during August 2018. According to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center, there is a 50–55% chance El Niño onset during the Northern Hemisphere fall 2018 (Southern Hemisphere spring), with an increasing chance of 65–70 during the Northern Hemisphere winter (Southern Hemisphere summer) 2018–19. This forecast focuses on the ocean surface temperatures between 5°N and 5°S latitude and 170°W to 120°W longitude, called the Niño 3.4 region.
the globe is not cooling, but of course many don't need to be told this
they can feel it when they step outside
Temperatures In the atmosphere, 500-millibar height pressure anomalies correlate well with temperatures at the Earth's surface. The average position of the upper-level ridges of high pressure and troughs of low pressure—depicted by positive and negative 500-millibar height anomalies on the August 2018 and June–August 2018 maps—is generally reflected by areas of positive and negative temperature anomalies at the surface, respectively.
August
August 2018 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Anomalies in degrees Celsius
August 2018 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Percentiles
August 2018 was characterized by warmer- to much-warmer-than-average conditions across much of the world's land and ocean surfaces. Record warm temperatures were present across parts of each major ocean basin, with the largest portions across the Barents Sea and the western Pacific Ocean, and small areas across Africa, Asia, Europe, and North America. During the month, the most notable temperature departures from average were present across Europe, central Asia, the northeastern contiguous U.S., and southeastern Canada, where temperatures were 2.0°C (3.6°F) above average or higher. In contrast, the most notable cool land temperature departures from average were present across northern Canada and parts of southern South America where temperatures were 1.5°C (2.7°F) below average or lower. No land or ocean areas had record cold August temperatures. Averaged as a whole, the global land and surface temperature for August 2018 was the fifth highest August temperature since global records began in 1880 at 0.74°C (1.33°F) above the 20th century average of 15.6°C (60.1°F). This was the smallest global land and ocean surface temperature since 2013. Nine of the ten warmest August global land and ocean surface temperatures have occurred since 2009, with the last five years (2014–2018) comprising the five warmest on record. The record warmest August occurred in 2016, with a temperature departure from average of +0.90°C (+1.62°F). August 1998 is the only 20th century August among the ten warmest Augusts on record, ranking as the seventh highest on record at +0.68°C (+1.22°F). August 2018 also marks the 42nd consecutive August and the 404th consecutive month with temperatures, at least nominally, above the 20th century average.
The globally-averaged land surface temperature during August 2018 was 0.94°C (1.69°F) above the 20th century average of 13.8°C (56.9°F)—the sixth highest August global land temperature in the 139-year record. Nine of the ten warmest August global land temperatures have occurred since 2001, with August 1998 the only 20th century August among the ten warmest Augusts on record. The highest global land August temperature occurred in 2016 at +1.28°C (+2.30°F). According to NCEI's Regional Analysis, two of six continents had an August temperature that ranked among the six warmest Augusts on record, with Europe having its warmest August on record. North America had its smallest temperature departure from average for August since 2009. South America and Africa's August 2018 temperature departure from average was the smallest since 2013.
Select national information is highlighted below. Please note that different countries report anomalies with respect to different base periods. The information provided here is based directly upon these data:
- Warmer-than-average temperatures engulfed much of Europe during August 2018, resulting in the warmest August since continental records began in 1910 at +2.40°C (+4.32°F). This value surpassed the previous record set in 2015 by +0.12°C (+0.22°F). There have been only three instances during the month of August where temperature departures from average for the continent were 2.0°C (3.6°F) or higher. These were 2003 (+2.17°C / +3.91°F), 2015 (+2.28°C / +4.10°F), and 2018.
- Germany had its third warmest August since national records began in 1881 at 20.0°C (68.0°F) or 2.5°C (4.5°F) above the 1981–2010 average.
- Austria's August temperature was 2.6°C (4.7°F) above the 1981–2010 average and the fifth highest for August in the nation's 252-year record.
- Spain's August 2018 mean temperature of 25.6°C (78.1°F) was 1.7°C (3.1°F) above the 1981–2010 average. This was also the second highest August temperature since national records began in 1965, trailing behind 2003 by +0.6°C (+1.1°F).
- Switzerland had its third warmest August since national records began in 1864 at 15.9°C (60.6°F), which is 2.1°C (3.8°F) above the 1981–2010 average.
- New Zealand had its ninth highest August temperature since national records began in 1909 at 9.7°C (49.5°F), which is 0.9°C (1.6°F) above the 1981–2010 average.
- August 2018 was South Korea's warmest August on record with a national mean temperature of 27.3°C (81.1°F), which is 2.2°C (4.0°F) above average. The nation's maximum (daytime) temperature ranked as the second highest at 32.2°C (90.0°F). National records began in 1973. According to KMA, many locations across South Korea set new maximum August temperature records. Of note, Seoul broke a 111-year record with a monthly maximum temperature of 39.6°C (103.3°F).
- While the northern half of Argentina had near- to cooler-than-average conditions, the southern half experienced warmer- to much-warmer-than-average conditions. Averaged as a whole, Argentina had its coolest August temperature departure from average since 2013. The nation's August 2018 temperature was 0.4°C (0.7°F) below average, ranking as the 22nd coldest August on record. The record cold August was set in 2007.
ENSO-neutral conditions persisted across the tropical Pacific Ocean during August 2018. According to NOAA's Climate Prediction Center, there is a 50–55% chance El Niño onset during the Northern Hemisphere fall 2018 (Southern Hemisphere spring), with an increasing chance of 65–70 during the Northern Hemisphere winter (Southern Hemisphere summer) 2018–19. This forecast focuses on the ocean surface temperatures between 5°N and 5°S latitude and 170°W to 120°W longitude, called the Niño 3.4 region.
trichrider,
actually it was me asking something and got no reply from the people with all the answers.
Obviously considering the sun being the only warming element in a system, objects with same R would get the same radiation levels, so expecting same temperatures neglecting albedo and other details would be logical.
Despite no measureable change in core temperatures the earth is warming rapidly and yet i read always the same boring mantras on how the cold baths(very wrong to use such terminology btw) cool the planet.
Pardon my attitude but i think you should seek explanations from some other member about his theories and why air temp measurements show such values in the latest years.
Cheers
actually it was me asking something and got no reply from the people with all the answers.
Obviously considering the sun being the only warming element in a system, objects with same R would get the same radiation levels, so expecting same temperatures neglecting albedo and other details would be logical.
Despite no measureable change in core temperatures the earth is warming rapidly and yet i read always the same boring mantras on how the cold baths(very wrong to use such terminology btw) cool the planet.
Pardon my attitude but i think you should seek explanations from some other member about his theories and why air temp measurements show such values in the latest years.
Cheers
Study Links Natural Climate Oscillations in North Atlantic to Greenland Ice Sheet Melt
https://www.whoi.edu/news-release/climate-oscillation-greenland-ice-sheet
why neglect albedo? ...and what are the 'other details'?
earth is protected by the atmospheres and the humongus heatsink of the oceans, both of which are absent on the moon.
there is a 46* Celcius swing in day and night temps on luna. earth does not have that enormous difference.
without atmospheres and oceans the two would generally be the same but for the core temps which when exposed to the cosmic microwave background temperature of -270 C would quickly solidify and discontinue heating/warming.
so is the core temperature responsible for earths climate woes (according to some) or is it the CO2?
and who told you the core temps don't or aren't changing?
Taking earth's inner temperature: Surprising new study finds that the mantle is hotter than we thought
March 2, 2017, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-03-temperature-earth-mantle.html#jCp
does the IPCC know about your contribution? because i doubt their models take into account your hypothesis.
garbage in-garbage out.
https://www.whoi.edu/news-release/climate-oscillation-greenland-ice-sheet
why neglect albedo? ...and what are the 'other details'?
earth is protected by the atmospheres and the humongus heatsink of the oceans, both of which are absent on the moon.
there is a 46* Celcius swing in day and night temps on luna. earth does not have that enormous difference.
without atmospheres and oceans the two would generally be the same but for the core temps which when exposed to the cosmic microwave background temperature of -270 C would quickly solidify and discontinue heating/warming.
so is the core temperature responsible for earths climate woes (according to some) or is it the CO2?
and who told you the core temps don't or aren't changing?
Taking earth's inner temperature: Surprising new study finds that the mantle is hotter than we thought
March 2, 2017, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-03-temperature-earth-mantle.html#jCp
does the IPCC know about your contribution? because i doubt their models take into account your hypothesis.
garbage in-garbage out.
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1029/2018JA025914
Recent developments in our knowledge of inner magnetosphere‐ionosphere convection
Recent developments in our knowledge of inner magnetosphere‐ionosphere convection
kickarse
Active member
So now its 1980-2010 lol a different 30 year period then has been used elsewhere,
the whole thing is laughable
gives ya $$ will fix it, as long as someone gets a subsidy everything will be ok
people can't really be so stupid as to believe all the garbage put out there
must be the glorious socialist education they hand out these days
common core climate change
the whole thing is laughable
gives ya $$ will fix it, as long as someone gets a subsidy everything will be ok
people can't really be so stupid as to believe all the garbage put out there
must be the glorious socialist education they hand out these days
common core climate change
i'm sure you're quite aware this time interval is one of many considered
much other temperature data is part of the analysis going back millions of years
the more recent temperature history is far more comprehensive
so if it was just about 1980-2010, you'd have a point
but that's not the case
U
Ununionized
Yeah and this is a warm optimum with a climate state so steady it's values haven't changed one WHIT since the French first calculated and published those average climate values in 1 8 6 4.
And you think 29% less light into a rock makes more than 100% come out.
Show some evidence for your kook-a-zoid claims, and discuss the scientific reality of your lies.
The planet's NEVER overheated, even ONCE.
Ever since it's been spawned, it's temperature has gone, overall down.
HOT TIMES ARE THE ONLY ONES REFERRED TO AS OPTIMUMS.
So ALL YOU CAN DO is PROVE WE are in an ASTONISHINGLY STEADY-STATE, WARM OPTIMUM.
You've SWORN it's getting WARMER.
We all go check your claims and NOPE, the GLOBAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD for CLIMATIC VALUES,
HAVEN'T changed ONCE
since the FRENCH first RESOLVED and PUBLISHED THEM,
in 1864.
The people you represent are known as ''The SEWERS of SCIENCE''
due to ENDLESS fraud the very FIRST being
telling YOU
29% less energy into the planet
CREATES MORE than 100% OUT.
When you're repeatedly stating you believe 29% less energy into a rock means more than 100% out, that's a darn good indicator you've no more concept of ''contact with reality''
than your friend did when he effectively admitted or claimed, HE DIDN'T KNOW there's a GIANT THERMO-NUCLEAR GENERATOR at the CENTER of the PLANET,
that's KEEPING the METAL CORE of the ROCK WE STAND ON,
MOLTEN.
Not one WORD of that kook sh** passes even the nominal sniff test of ''Is this person even in contact with REALITY,
after having been shown he's shouting a ''magical gassiness, dun made a cold light blocking bath, a HeeDuR!" ?
The answer is no. You're a fantasy hater, hating OPTIMUM weather,
because guvurmint men dun tolt'chew, abowt the magical gaissiness,
and how yew don't need thim laws uh fisicks yew jist nead two
B.u.L.e.a.V.e.
And hate thim what wont buleave, witcha.
YaW.
There's no such thing as the climate being in a state of change right now, there's a global REGULATORY and CALIBRATION standard saying you don't know what you're talking about.
TWO of them, the International Standard Atmosphere and the COMPUTER-UPDATED AMERICAN Standard Atmosphere published in 1976.
We calibrate and have, our air density instruments, thermal instruments, humidity etc against the Atmosphere's known-good values, ever since 1864.
Sober adults also know
the temperature of the planet doesn't involve it getting WARMER and WARMER as LESS and LESS LIGHT ARRIVES to WARM it
* *and SO DO YOU you're just living in the enforced land of ''too stupid to admit a cold gas bath can't be a heater.* *
You've been challenged for MONTHS to show some sort of real evidence your claims are true. After you leadership got caught telling you a HOCKEY STICK GENERATOR is a WHOLE new FIELD of MATH,
CLIMATE math, where MORE light comes OUT of things, because a magical gassiness made LESS LIGHT go IN THEM.
Your handler Hansen who told you the laws of physics don't work on Venus - even though we've landed 13 craft on the surface robotically using the very same math we LAND THEM WITH on THIS PLANET,
whose cold gas atmosphere COOLS it as the VERY FIRST STEP in TEMPERATURE calculation, 29%.
Your insinuations that anyone but YOU are wrong are just more examples of how sh**-house-rat
crazy you have to be,
to complain that the WARM MINIMUM has you FRIGHTENED,
ever since you heard from government men about
29% LESS LIGHT going into a ROCK
making MORE than 100%, come back OUT of it
if a MAGICAL GASSINESS
makes the 29% not go in.
And you think 29% less light into a rock makes more than 100% come out.
Show some evidence for your kook-a-zoid claims, and discuss the scientific reality of your lies.
The planet's NEVER overheated, even ONCE.
Ever since it's been spawned, it's temperature has gone, overall down.
HOT TIMES ARE THE ONLY ONES REFERRED TO AS OPTIMUMS.
So ALL YOU CAN DO is PROVE WE are in an ASTONISHINGLY STEADY-STATE, WARM OPTIMUM.
You've SWORN it's getting WARMER.
We all go check your claims and NOPE, the GLOBAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD for CLIMATIC VALUES,
HAVEN'T changed ONCE
since the FRENCH first RESOLVED and PUBLISHED THEM,
in 1864.
The people you represent are known as ''The SEWERS of SCIENCE''
due to ENDLESS fraud the very FIRST being
telling YOU
29% less energy into the planet
CREATES MORE than 100% OUT.
When you're repeatedly stating you believe 29% less energy into a rock means more than 100% out, that's a darn good indicator you've no more concept of ''contact with reality''
than your friend did when he effectively admitted or claimed, HE DIDN'T KNOW there's a GIANT THERMO-NUCLEAR GENERATOR at the CENTER of the PLANET,
that's KEEPING the METAL CORE of the ROCK WE STAND ON,
MOLTEN.
Not one WORD of that kook sh** passes even the nominal sniff test of ''Is this person even in contact with REALITY,
after having been shown he's shouting a ''magical gassiness, dun made a cold light blocking bath, a HeeDuR!" ?
The answer is no. You're a fantasy hater, hating OPTIMUM weather,
because guvurmint men dun tolt'chew, abowt the magical gaissiness,
and how yew don't need thim laws uh fisicks yew jist nead two
B.u.L.e.a.V.e.
And hate thim what wont buleave, witcha.
YaW.
There's no such thing as the climate being in a state of change right now, there's a global REGULATORY and CALIBRATION standard saying you don't know what you're talking about.
TWO of them, the International Standard Atmosphere and the COMPUTER-UPDATED AMERICAN Standard Atmosphere published in 1976.
We calibrate and have, our air density instruments, thermal instruments, humidity etc against the Atmosphere's known-good values, ever since 1864.
Sober adults also know
the temperature of the planet doesn't involve it getting WARMER and WARMER as LESS and LESS LIGHT ARRIVES to WARM it
* *and SO DO YOU you're just living in the enforced land of ''too stupid to admit a cold gas bath can't be a heater.* *
You've been challenged for MONTHS to show some sort of real evidence your claims are true. After you leadership got caught telling you a HOCKEY STICK GENERATOR is a WHOLE new FIELD of MATH,
CLIMATE math, where MORE light comes OUT of things, because a magical gassiness made LESS LIGHT go IN THEM.
Your handler Hansen who told you the laws of physics don't work on Venus - even though we've landed 13 craft on the surface robotically using the very same math we LAND THEM WITH on THIS PLANET,
whose cold gas atmosphere COOLS it as the VERY FIRST STEP in TEMPERATURE calculation, 29%.
Your insinuations that anyone but YOU are wrong are just more examples of how sh**-house-rat
crazy you have to be,
to complain that the WARM MINIMUM has you FRIGHTENED,
ever since you heard from government men about
29% LESS LIGHT going into a ROCK
making MORE than 100%, come back OUT of it
if a MAGICAL GASSINESS
makes the 29% not go in.
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kickarse
Active member
In my country they compare the current temp to the 30 year period 1951-1980
England is 1960-1990, now where told on here its 1980-2010
as i said its laughable, how do the measure the global temp, have a guess is about all
all we are doing is playing with the margin of error, they got know idea if the globe has warmed 1 degree or not warmed at all, no temp records have been beaten here for well over a 100yrs
FFS even if it did heat up 1 degree over 100 years, we have just came out of the "little ice age" (people should be happy its warmed up since then)
which came after the "medieval warm period", who are we blaming for those climate changes in the past
England is 1960-1990, now where told on here its 1980-2010
as i said its laughable, how do the measure the global temp, have a guess is about all
all we are doing is playing with the margin of error, they got know idea if the globe has warmed 1 degree or not warmed at all, no temp records have been beaten here for well over a 100yrs
FFS even if it did heat up 1 degree over 100 years, we have just came out of the "little ice age" (people should be happy its warmed up since then)
which came after the "medieval warm period", who are we blaming for those climate changes in the past
U
Ununionized
Instead of presenting evidence WE are right try to present evidence YOU are right.
Oh that's right you're here barking inversion fraud - a cold bath is a heater.
There's not a single word of scientific analysis the proves anything but the fact you're too dumb to know less and less light in doesn't make more and more light come out.
Oh that's right you're here barking inversion fraud - a cold bath is a heater.
There's not a single word of scientific analysis the proves anything but the fact you're too dumb to know less and less light in doesn't make more and more light come out.
warming can work out, depends on how warm it gets
global temperature measurements are more than a guess, actual data is used
this is the common tactic of the climate change sceptics
1) it's not warming
2) if it is warming, it's not a bad thing
that's not a very consistent stance
U
Ununionized
Go LOOK at your CHURCH'S TEACHINGS where they TELL YOU TO your FACE,
THAT the VERY FIRST STEP in RESOLVING PLANET TEMP is COOLING IT 29% due to the
ATMOSPHERE
NOT LETTING
the LIGHT get to EARTH to WARM it.
The * V E R Y first S T E P on their W E B S I T E S. *
Then FIND the PLACE on your CHURCH'S WEBSITES where they tell you
''Thim Magical Gaissis, what's thim GREAN HOWS WUNS,
is making the plannit MOAR HODDUR than if thair
WERNT NO GAS BATH,
and the plannit dun got a HUNDURD PUR SINT
uh thim sun lights.
YaW."
And when you FIGURE OUT the claim MORE light COMES OUT
because LESS LIGHT WENT IN is violation of CONSERVATION of ENERGY,
YOU'LL REALIZE why EVERYONE LAUGHS at YOU so HARD when you start BARKING it.
THAT the VERY FIRST STEP in RESOLVING PLANET TEMP is COOLING IT 29% due to the
ATMOSPHERE
NOT LETTING
the LIGHT get to EARTH to WARM it.
The * V E R Y first S T E P on their W E B S I T E S. *
Then FIND the PLACE on your CHURCH'S WEBSITES where they tell you
''Thim Magical Gaissis, what's thim GREAN HOWS WUNS,
is making the plannit MOAR HODDUR than if thair
WERNT NO GAS BATH,
and the plannit dun got a HUNDURD PUR SINT
uh thim sun lights.
YaW."
And when you FIGURE OUT the claim MORE light COMES OUT
because LESS LIGHT WENT IN is violation of CONSERVATION of ENERGY,
YOU'LL REALIZE why EVERYONE LAUGHS at YOU so HARD when you start BARKING it.
kickarse
Active member
"Actual data" is manipulated to get the desired result
we have certainly warmed up since the little ice age
not to sure we have warmed up much since then, not without manipulating the data anyway, all the old records are being wiped out, temp records use to start at my place in the late 1800s, now they start at 1969, its the same everywhere, some now don't start till the 2000s, sounds like a huge SCAM to me
how do you explain the huge sea level rises and falls of the past, some by 100s of meters, and why are we concerned about a few millimeters of a rise now
its the religion of the left and all about $$$ and control of the people
when you can dismiss the temperature record as being manipulated, you can prove whatever you want
that's conspiracy theory, i personally don't buy that, but to each their own i guess
and climate has changed dramatically in the past, that we agree on
and if sea level change stays at a few millimeters, all's good
point is climate is scary, it was always scary but people didn't know any better way back
it's if that change is headed for 100s of meters, then that's something to be scared of, really scared
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
When it comes to ocean temperatures, it's a LOT. Warmer waters feed stronger storms.
just 10 meters will flood billions (if not trillions) of dollars worth of real estate, govt. installations. fuck, lots of Florida is not over 30 feet above sea level. nor is New York City. say "bye-bye" to lots of Louisiana, Georgia, South Carolina etc. there are already islands in the Pacific that are now uninhabitable...more to come as rising salt water enters the water table & prevent any food crops from being grown.
White Beard
Active member
Same answer to both questions: accelerated glacial melt. The reason we’re “concerned about a few millimeters of a rise now” is because the rate of melt is on the rise, faster than scientists predicted originally, and the rate continues to increase, and major inhabited sections of land are experiencing greater flooding more often already.“kickarse” said:
1. Albedo changes according to cloud cover and seasons, so it's not a constant. Other "details" would be surface properties like heat capacity and energy conversion cycles in a present atmosphere.
2. the atmosphere and oceans are heatsinks and accumulate(keep) more heat than just the moon's dry surface, so less day/night difference, obviously. Yet another fact supporting the gw model.
3. there's no core temperature cycle to contribute to gw. the earth and all planets are essentially loosing core heat. If there's heat transition between core and mantle which "could" have an effect on the climate, theoretically could be but no data suggests this and so far the models all indicate the "cold gasses" are the major factor.
4. who told you core temps ARE changing, possibly going up? by which process? any data?
To be clear, I'm not a gw advocate of any kind, just got my jimmies rustled by the attitude of some all-knowing believers in gw conspiracies who can't provide data to support their loud claims. Quasi self proclaimed scientists with shitty attitude, the worst kind.
Keep in mind after all it's a canna forum and members who contribute zero canna content are trolls by definition. And should be treated as such.
Peace
St. Phatty
Active member
I wouldn't mind being paid to grow trees that will sequester carbon - until they are burned or de-compose.
I keep trying to call Goldman Sachs to see how I can get in on the scam.
never mind trees. grow cannabis. it's an annual that exceeds a trees ability to sequester carbon by orders of magnitude.
Industrial hemp has been scientifically proven to absorb more CO2 per hectare than any forest or commercial crop and is therefore the ideal carbon sink. In addition, the CO2 is permanently bonded within the fiber that is used for anything from textiles, to paper and as a building material. It is currently being used by BMW in Germany to replace plastics in car construction. It is therefore additional to what would otherwise be grown or sourced from oil. It can be constantly replanted and as such meets permanence criteria as defined by the Kyoto Protocol.
www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=ae6e9b56-1d34-4ed3-9851...
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i've put in my time...
that help?
Industrial hemp has been scientifically proven to absorb more CO2 per hectare than any forest or commercial crop and is therefore the ideal carbon sink. In addition, the CO2 is permanently bonded within the fiber that is used for anything from textiles, to paper and as a building material. It is currently being used by BMW in Germany to replace plastics in car construction. It is therefore additional to what would otherwise be grown or sourced from oil. It can be constantly replanted and as such meets permanence criteria as defined by the Kyoto Protocol.
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i've put in my time...
that help?
