White Beard
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Yes, exactly: ‘true’ north indicates the axis of rotation. Magnetic north moves. Moving fast now, if it stays “on course” long enough it’ll be in Siberia, but not moving *that* fast...when I looked last week sometime
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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?
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TychoMonolyth
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Nope. The Zip/Postal Code. You know.... Santa's house. In Canada BTW.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Only for a very brief moment standing in the fireball. Then it was years of deep freeze.
White Beard
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A brief geological moment, for sure.
I have read estimates that as much as a few million cubic miles of ice was vaporized in that time (not counting the fires and the secondary melt from ejecta they say accompanied the event). The vast qty of water vapor combined with the smoke triggered the return of the cold and the glaciers as the rains fell across the globe.
A thousand years later, the warming resumed.
I have read estimates that as much as a few million cubic miles of ice was vaporized in that time (not counting the fires and the secondary melt from ejecta they say accompanied the event). The vast qty of water vapor combined with the smoke triggered the return of the cold and the glaciers as the rains fell across the globe.
A thousand years later, the warming resumed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMr-5HHnAmU
Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, the Greatest Secret of the United States
Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, the Greatest Secret of the United States
Sunshineinabag
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I made a tshirt for antifa........"Herpies,the gift that keeps on giving!"
U.S. news
Scientist who warned early about climate change, popularized term 'global warming' dies at 87
"He saw clearly the unprecedented warming now playing out and made his views clear, even when few were willing to listen," a fellow scientist said of researcher Wallace Smith Broecker.
Feb. 18, 2019, 7:51 PM EST
By Associated Press
NEW YORK (AP) — A scientist who raised early alarms about climate change and popularized the term "global warming" has died. Wallace Smith Broecker was 87.
The longtime Columbia University professor and researcher died Monday at a New York City hospital, according to a spokesman for the university's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. Kevin Krajick said Broecker had been ailing in recent months.
Broecker brought "global warming" into common use with a 1975 article that correctly predicted rising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere would lead to pronounced warming. He later became the first person to recognize what he called the Ocean Conveyor Belt, a global network of currents affecting everything from air temperature to rain patterns.
"Wally was unique, brilliant and combative," said Princeton University professor Michael Oppenheimer. "He wasn't fooled by the cooling of the 1970s. He saw clearly the unprecedented warming now playing out and made his views clear, even when few were willing to listen."
In the Ocean Conveyor Belt, cold, salty water in the North Atlantic sinks, working like a plunger to drive an ocean current from near North America to Europe. Warm surface waters borne by this current help keep Europe's climate mild.
Otherwise, he said, Europe would be a deep freeze, with average winter temperatures dropping by 20 degrees Fahrenheit or more and London feeling more like Spitsbergen, Norway, which is 600 miles north of the Arctic Circle.
Broecker said his studies suggested that the conveyor is the "Achilles heel of the climate system" and a fragile phenomenon that can change rapidly for reasons not understood. It would take only a slight rise in temperature to keep water from sinking in the North Atlantic, he said, and that would bring the conveyor to a halt. Broecker said it is possible that warming caused by the buildup of greenhouse gases could be enough to affect the ocean currents dramatically.
"Broecker single-handedly popularized the notion that this could lead to a dramatic climate change 'tipping point' and, more generally, Broecker helped communicate to the public and policymakers the potential for abrupt climate changes and unwelcome 'surprises' as a result of climate change," said Penn State professor Michael Mann.
In 1984, Broecker told a House subcommittee that the buildup of greenhouse gases warranted a "bold, new national effort aimed at understanding the operation of the realms of the atmosphere, oceans, ice and terrestrial biosphere."
"We live in a climate system that can jump abruptly from one state to another," Broecker told the Associated Press in 1997. By dumping into the atmosphere huge amounts of greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels, "we are conducting an experiment that could have devastating effects."
"We're playing with an angry beast — a climate system that has been shown to be very sensitive," he said.
Broecker received the National Medal of Science in 1996 and was a member of the National Academy of Science. He also served a stint as the research coordinator for Biosphere 2, an experimental living environment turned research lab.
Broecker was born in Chicago in 1931 and grew up in suburban Oak Park.
He joined Columbia's faculty in 1959, spending most of his time at the university's laboratory in Palisades, New York. He was known in science circles as the "Grandfather of Climate Science" and the "Dean of Climate Scientists."
"His discoveries were fundamental to interpreting Earth's climate history," said Oppenheimer. "No scientist was more stimulating to engage with: he was an instigator in a good way, willing to press unpopular ideas, like lofting particles to offset climate change. But it was always a two-way conversation, never dull, always educational. I'll miss him."
Scientist who warned early about climate change, popularized term 'global warming' dies at 87
"He saw clearly the unprecedented warming now playing out and made his views clear, even when few were willing to listen," a fellow scientist said of researcher Wallace Smith Broecker.
Feb. 18, 2019, 7:51 PM EST
By Associated Press
NEW YORK (AP) — A scientist who raised early alarms about climate change and popularized the term "global warming" has died. Wallace Smith Broecker was 87.
The longtime Columbia University professor and researcher died Monday at a New York City hospital, according to a spokesman for the university's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. Kevin Krajick said Broecker had been ailing in recent months.
Broecker brought "global warming" into common use with a 1975 article that correctly predicted rising carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere would lead to pronounced warming. He later became the first person to recognize what he called the Ocean Conveyor Belt, a global network of currents affecting everything from air temperature to rain patterns.
"Wally was unique, brilliant and combative," said Princeton University professor Michael Oppenheimer. "He wasn't fooled by the cooling of the 1970s. He saw clearly the unprecedented warming now playing out and made his views clear, even when few were willing to listen."
In the Ocean Conveyor Belt, cold, salty water in the North Atlantic sinks, working like a plunger to drive an ocean current from near North America to Europe. Warm surface waters borne by this current help keep Europe's climate mild.
Otherwise, he said, Europe would be a deep freeze, with average winter temperatures dropping by 20 degrees Fahrenheit or more and London feeling more like Spitsbergen, Norway, which is 600 miles north of the Arctic Circle.
Broecker said his studies suggested that the conveyor is the "Achilles heel of the climate system" and a fragile phenomenon that can change rapidly for reasons not understood. It would take only a slight rise in temperature to keep water from sinking in the North Atlantic, he said, and that would bring the conveyor to a halt. Broecker said it is possible that warming caused by the buildup of greenhouse gases could be enough to affect the ocean currents dramatically.
"Broecker single-handedly popularized the notion that this could lead to a dramatic climate change 'tipping point' and, more generally, Broecker helped communicate to the public and policymakers the potential for abrupt climate changes and unwelcome 'surprises' as a result of climate change," said Penn State professor Michael Mann.
In 1984, Broecker told a House subcommittee that the buildup of greenhouse gases warranted a "bold, new national effort aimed at understanding the operation of the realms of the atmosphere, oceans, ice and terrestrial biosphere."
"We live in a climate system that can jump abruptly from one state to another," Broecker told the Associated Press in 1997. By dumping into the atmosphere huge amounts of greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels, "we are conducting an experiment that could have devastating effects."
"We're playing with an angry beast — a climate system that has been shown to be very sensitive," he said.
Broecker received the National Medal of Science in 1996 and was a member of the National Academy of Science. He also served a stint as the research coordinator for Biosphere 2, an experimental living environment turned research lab.
Broecker was born in Chicago in 1931 and grew up in suburban Oak Park.
He joined Columbia's faculty in 1959, spending most of his time at the university's laboratory in Palisades, New York. He was known in science circles as the "Grandfather of Climate Science" and the "Dean of Climate Scientists."
"His discoveries were fundamental to interpreting Earth's climate history," said Oppenheimer. "No scientist was more stimulating to engage with: he was an instigator in a good way, willing to press unpopular ideas, like lofting particles to offset climate change. But it was always a two-way conversation, never dull, always educational. I'll miss him."
I think there are thousand signs for the climate Change. Just this morning I read in the local newspaper, that Cranes stop here over the winter in northern Germany. Normaly they were flying to south spain.
I watched climate change firsthand. When I went hunting yesterday at 4 am, it was snowing. Then the sun came out around noon. Bam, climate change....lmfao
january global temperature
january global temperature
greetings fellow Earthicans
another chapter in the climate story, i know you're biting at the bit for this
it's warm me hearties! 3rd warmest January in the record, seems like we're hitting in the top 5 every month
maybe that's because we are
the hottest story?
Australia blokes, some real records set there
January
January 2019 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Anomalies in degrees Celsius
January 2019 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Percentiles
The first month of 2019 was characterized by warmer-than-average conditions across much of the world's surface. The most notable warm temperature anomalies were present across much of Australia and across parts of northeastern and southwestern Asia, where temperature departures from average were 4.0°C (7.2°F) above average or higher. Record warm January surface temperatures were present across much of Australia and its surrounding Southern Ocean, southern Brazil, the ocean off the south coast of South Africa, and across parts of Africa, Asia, and the southeastern Pacific Ocean. Notable cool temperature departures from average were present across parts of northern North America, Europe, and central Asia, where temperatures were 1.0°C (1.8°F) below average or cooler. According to our analysis, no land or ocean surface had record cold January temperatures.
Averaged as a whole, the January 2019 global land and ocean surface temperature was 0.88°C (1.58°F) above the 20th century average and tied with 2007 as the third highest temperature since global records began in 1880. Only the years 2016 (+1.06°C / +1.91°F) and 2017 (+0.91°C / +1.64°F) were warmer. The ten warmest Januaries have all occurred since 2002, with the last five years (2015–2019) among the six warmest years in the 140-year record. January 1976 was the last time the January global land and ocean temperatures were below average at -0.02°C (-0.04°F).
The global land-only January 2019 temperature was the fourth highest in the 140-year record at 1.51°C (2.72°F) above average, trailing behind 2007 (+1.85°C / +3.33°F), 2016 (+1.58°C / +2.84°F), and 2017 (+1.58°C / +2.84°F). According to NCEI's Regional Analysis, three (South America, Asia, and Oceania) of six continents had a January temperature ranking among their five highest since continental records began in 1910. Of note, Oceania had its warmest January on record at 2.56°C (4.61°F) above average. North America had its coolest January since 2011. Meanwhile, the global ocean-only temperature for January 2019 was 0.65°C (1.17°F) above average—the third warmest January since global records began in 1880. The record warm global ocean temperature departure from average of +0.86°C (+1.55°F) was set in 2016. January 2017 ranked as the second warmest on record.
Select national information is highlighted below. Please note that different countries report anomalies with respect to different base periods. The information provided here is based directly upon these data:
january global temperature
greetings fellow Earthicans
another chapter in the climate story, i know you're biting at the bit for this
it's warm me hearties! 3rd warmest January in the record, seems like we're hitting in the top 5 every month
maybe that's because we are
the hottest story?
Australia blokes, some real records set there
January
January 2019 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Anomalies in degrees Celsius
January 2019 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Percentiles
The first month of 2019 was characterized by warmer-than-average conditions across much of the world's surface. The most notable warm temperature anomalies were present across much of Australia and across parts of northeastern and southwestern Asia, where temperature departures from average were 4.0°C (7.2°F) above average or higher. Record warm January surface temperatures were present across much of Australia and its surrounding Southern Ocean, southern Brazil, the ocean off the south coast of South Africa, and across parts of Africa, Asia, and the southeastern Pacific Ocean. Notable cool temperature departures from average were present across parts of northern North America, Europe, and central Asia, where temperatures were 1.0°C (1.8°F) below average or cooler. According to our analysis, no land or ocean surface had record cold January temperatures.
Averaged as a whole, the January 2019 global land and ocean surface temperature was 0.88°C (1.58°F) above the 20th century average and tied with 2007 as the third highest temperature since global records began in 1880. Only the years 2016 (+1.06°C / +1.91°F) and 2017 (+0.91°C / +1.64°F) were warmer. The ten warmest Januaries have all occurred since 2002, with the last five years (2015–2019) among the six warmest years in the 140-year record. January 1976 was the last time the January global land and ocean temperatures were below average at -0.02°C (-0.04°F).
The global land-only January 2019 temperature was the fourth highest in the 140-year record at 1.51°C (2.72°F) above average, trailing behind 2007 (+1.85°C / +3.33°F), 2016 (+1.58°C / +2.84°F), and 2017 (+1.58°C / +2.84°F). According to NCEI's Regional Analysis, three (South America, Asia, and Oceania) of six continents had a January temperature ranking among their five highest since continental records began in 1910. Of note, Oceania had its warmest January on record at 2.56°C (4.61°F) above average. North America had its coolest January since 2011. Meanwhile, the global ocean-only temperature for January 2019 was 0.65°C (1.17°F) above average—the third warmest January since global records began in 1880. The record warm global ocean temperature departure from average of +0.86°C (+1.55°F) was set in 2016. January 2017 ranked as the second warmest on record.
Select national information is highlighted below. Please note that different countries report anomalies with respect to different base periods. The information provided here is based directly upon these data:
- Several locations across Canada set new low maximum and minimum temperature records during the end of the month as cold Arctic air affected the region. According to Environment and Climate Change Canada, maximum temperatures during this time did not go above the -25.0°C (-13.0°F) mark. Of note, Lansdowne House (Ontario) set a new low minimum temperature on January 27 when temperatures plummeted to -47.5°C (-53.5°F), exceeding the previous record set in 1957 (-38.9°C / -38.0°F).
- Hong Kong's mean temperature for January 2019 was 18.1°C (32.6°F) or 1.8°C (3.2°F) above average. This was the third warmest January on record for Hong Kong. Minimum and maximum temperatures were the third and fifth warmest on record, respectively.
- A heat wave impacted much of Chile during January 24–27, with several locations registering temperatures as high as 40.0°C (104.0°F). The city of Santiago set a new maximum temperature record when temperatures soared to 38.3°C (100.9°F) on January 26. Santiago's previous record was set in 2017 at 37.4°C (99.3°F).
- According to the World Meteorological Organization, Brazil also had a heat wave that affected the southeastern part of the country. Several locations recorded temperatures above 30.0°C (86.0°F). Of particular interest, Rio de Janeiro had registered a temperature of 37.4°C (99.3°F)—the second hottest temperature for the station since 1961.
- Unusually warm temperatures engulfed much of Australia during January 2019, resulting in the warmest January since national temperature records began in 1910. The national mean temperature was 2.91°C (5.24°F) above the 1961–1990 average, shattering the previous record set in 2013 by 0.99°C (1.78°F). The nation's maximum and minimum temperatures were also record warm at +3.37°C (+6.07°F) and +2.45°C (+4.41°F), respectively. Most regions had a record warm January, with South Australia and Western Australia having their second warmest January on record. The region with the highest mean temperature departure from average was New South Wales at 5.86°C (10.55°F) above average. New South Wales' previous record was set in 1939 at +3.79°C (6.82°F).
- An intense heat wave affected Australia throughout much of the month, with many locations setting new high maximum and minimum January temperature records. According to Australia's Bureau of Meteorology, the nation's mean temperature reached 40.0°C (104.0°F) on five consecutive days (12–16 January 2019), exceeding the previous record of two consecutive days set in 1972 and again in 2013.
- New Zealand's January 2019 temperature of 18.8°C (65.8°F) was 1.7°C (3.1°F) above the 1981–2010 average and the third highest January temperature since national records began in 1909. January 2018 is New Zealand's warmest January on record. A heat wave affected much of New Zealand at the end of the month, with many locations having record or near-record warm January temperatures.
- According to Météo France, the Reunion Island had its warmest January since national records began. The January 2019 temperature was 1.4°C (2.5°F) above average, which exceeded the previous record set in 1998 by 0.3°C (0.5°F).
Evidence for man-made global warming hits 'gold standard': scientists
Evidence for man-made global warming hits 'gold standard': scientists
OSLO (Reuters) - Evidence for man-made global warming has reached a “gold standard” level of certainty, adding pressure for cuts in greenhouse gases to limit rising temperatures, scientists said on Monday.
“Humanity cannot afford to ignore such clear signals,” the U.S.-led team wrote in the journal Nature Climate Change of satellite measurements of rising temperatures over the past 40 years.
They said confidence that human activities were raising the heat at the Earth’s surface had reached a “five-sigma” level, a statistical gauge meaning there is only a one-in-a-million chance that the signal would appear if there was no warming.
Such a “gold standard” was applied in 2012, for instance, to confirm the discovery of the Higgs boson subatomic particle, a basic building block of the universe.
Benjamin Santer, lead author of Monday’s study at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, said he hoped the findings would win over skeptics and spur action.
“The narrative out there that scientists don’t know the cause of climate change is wrong,” he told Reuters. “We do.”
Mainstream scientists say the burning of fossil fuels is causing more floods, droughts, heat waves and rising sea levels.
SATELLITE DATA
Monday’s findings, by researchers in the United States, Canada and Scotland, said evidence for global warming reached the five sigma level by 2005 in two of three sets of satellite data widely used by researchers, and in 2016 in the third.
in 2013, the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concluded that it is “extremely likely”, or at least 95 percent probable, that human activities have been the main cause of climate change since the 1950s.
Peter Stott of the British Met Office, who was among the scientists drawing that conclusion and was not involved in Monday’s study, said he would favor raising the probability one notch to “virtually certain”, or 99-100 percent.
“The alternative explanation of natural factors dominating has got even less likely,” he told Reuters.
The last four years have been the hottest since records began in the 19th century.
The IPCC will next publish a formal assessment of the probabilities in 2021.
“I would be reluctant to raise to 99-100 percent, but there is no doubt there is more evidence of change in the global signals over a wider suite of ocean indices and atmospheric indices,” said Professor Nathan Bindoff, a climate scientist at the University of Tasmania.
Evidence for man-made global warming hits 'gold standard': scientists
OSLO (Reuters) - Evidence for man-made global warming has reached a “gold standard” level of certainty, adding pressure for cuts in greenhouse gases to limit rising temperatures, scientists said on Monday.
“Humanity cannot afford to ignore such clear signals,” the U.S.-led team wrote in the journal Nature Climate Change of satellite measurements of rising temperatures over the past 40 years.
They said confidence that human activities were raising the heat at the Earth’s surface had reached a “five-sigma” level, a statistical gauge meaning there is only a one-in-a-million chance that the signal would appear if there was no warming.
Such a “gold standard” was applied in 2012, for instance, to confirm the discovery of the Higgs boson subatomic particle, a basic building block of the universe.
Benjamin Santer, lead author of Monday’s study at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, said he hoped the findings would win over skeptics and spur action.
“The narrative out there that scientists don’t know the cause of climate change is wrong,” he told Reuters. “We do.”
Mainstream scientists say the burning of fossil fuels is causing more floods, droughts, heat waves and rising sea levels.
SATELLITE DATA
Monday’s findings, by researchers in the United States, Canada and Scotland, said evidence for global warming reached the five sigma level by 2005 in two of three sets of satellite data widely used by researchers, and in 2016 in the third.
in 2013, the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concluded that it is “extremely likely”, or at least 95 percent probable, that human activities have been the main cause of climate change since the 1950s.
Peter Stott of the British Met Office, who was among the scientists drawing that conclusion and was not involved in Monday’s study, said he would favor raising the probability one notch to “virtually certain”, or 99-100 percent.
“The alternative explanation of natural factors dominating has got even less likely,” he told Reuters.
The last four years have been the hottest since records began in the 19th century.
The IPCC will next publish a formal assessment of the probabilities in 2021.
“I would be reluctant to raise to 99-100 percent, but there is no doubt there is more evidence of change in the global signals over a wider suite of ocean indices and atmospheric indices,” said Professor Nathan Bindoff, a climate scientist at the University of Tasmania.
St. Phatty
Active member
Could it be that the increase in heat is because human beings burn sh-t to get energy for all their other needs ?
When oil & coal are consumed, the result is not just CO2.
The result is also Heat.
Why are they so sure that the heating is from CO2 levels increasing ?
Perhaps the higher temps are because we're burning sh-t, AKA adding heat to the system.
When oil & coal are consumed, the result is not just CO2.
The result is also Heat.
Why are they so sure that the heating is from CO2 levels increasing ?
Perhaps the higher temps are because we're burning sh-t, AKA adding heat to the system.
nice to see that you still don't understand the difference between long-term climate change & a very short-term aberration in that pattern of change. some things never change, lol.
kickarse
Active member
Every time we get a bit of warm weather, the cries of "man made global warming" sing out.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander
i'm well aware what climate is and what weather is, climate is not a 30 year period, more like hundreds of years,
you can't compare every thing to a cherry picked 30 years period
Enjoy your record cold, we had our "hottest summer ever" pity 7 weeks of it was shit cold weather, we did had 5 nice warm weeks, but fuck people are stupid these days, believe anything they are told, without looking for them selves
What is good for the goose is good for the gander
i'm well aware what climate is and what weather is, climate is not a 30 year period, more like hundreds of years,
you can't compare every thing to a cherry picked 30 years period
Enjoy your record cold, we had our "hottest summer ever" pity 7 weeks of it was shit cold weather, we did had 5 nice warm weeks, but fuck people are stupid these days, believe anything they are told, without looking for them selves
a "bit of warm weather" is a week or two in July with every day in the 90s or above around here. when the highest temps (averaged throughout the year) in recorded history are the LAST 5 YEARS, just as science has warned us was coming, with glaciers rapidly melting and breaking apart all over the world, the ice shelves in Antarctica breaking up, and islands in the Pacific ocean becoming uninhabitable due to rising seas...that is not "a bit of warm weather".
sorry...St. Phatty
Active member
a "bit of warm weather" is a week or two in July with every day in the 90s or above around here. when the highest temps (averaged throughout the year) in recorded history are the LAST 5 YEARS, just as science has warned us was coming, with glaciers rapidly melting and breaking apart all over the world, the ice shelves in Antarctica breaking up, and islands in the Pacific ocean becoming uninhabitable due to rising seas...that is not "a bit of warm weather".
Europe started taking so-called Climate Change much more seriously after the heat-waves in 2003
"eight consecutive days with temperatures of more than 40 °C (104 °F) were recorded in Auxerre, Yonne in early August 2003.[7] Because of the usually relatively mild summers, most people did not know how to react to very high temperatures (for instance, with respect to rehydration), and most single-family homes and residential facilities built in the last 50 years were not equipped with air conditioning."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heat_wave
Of course, they could have just had the heat equivalent of a 100 year flood.
Old people in France need Air conditioning, just like people in Texas do.
