Hovz
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doc: hey cool shit i'll go check it out, gotta make a couple big updates but then fo sho, thanks for stopping in hope you create a new indica/sativa frankenstein or some shit lol
nameless: oh i hear that--here is to just a few weeks from being on solid financial ground (big fucking knock on wood). and no worries on saying the same shit.. think about what people really talk about with their good friends, for example. it is usually the same shit. what they did today, what they might do next week, blah blah. sure it is fun to talk about new stuff, but even if you just talk about the same thing over and over hey it is still fun to talk. which brings me to my second no-so-direct point... why wait for the perfect grow to post a thread? if i would have done that, i would never had done one lol posting the thread and learning my mistakes as i made them or had others point them out to me, or had others steer me from the path i should have stayed on... all that stuff, the "experience" of running a real-time thread, all conglom-o-rated (word? ha) into my current level or skill set or whatever. it all adds up. i would recommend throwing your thread up at whatever point you are currently on.. of course, some folks don't like to run real-time grows/threads for security reasons, which is smart if that is your wish. (nothing like letting the entire internet know when the right time to come steal your shit is --"hey i'm harvesting tomorrow, just going out of town for the weekend then all is coming down" lol that kind of facebook advertising can get people in trouble so some avoid the risk completely by not posting real-time.. that makes sense to me. guess i just live on the edge ) anyway, thanks for the kind words my friend and always a pleasure to have you stop by -- "my fans" hehe that makes me laugh. i hope chicks out there have "i heart khaleel's garden" t-shirts or bumper stickers or some shit
hovz: hiya bro, good to see you hope things are going well for ya. i'll give you a detailed rundown, but all the answers to all your questions can be found in the last few pages of my thread (don't even have to go all way back to the beginning lol), which i would highly recommend you going over even with my quick summary. the more details the better,
the soil mix:
Happy Frog or Fox Farm Ocean Forest (FFOF), it doesn't really matter either one will work great. HF is cheaper, but FFOF comes in a bag that is the exact same size as the Pro Mix (should be pictures of the bag in my thread, it is made by OMRI, lmk if can't find a pic i'll post a link). mix equal parts soil and Pro Mix. make sure you don't buy the home depot shit pro-mix. find the pic in my thread or ask cuz you need to make sure it is the right stuff. add chunky perlite until it makes up about 30% of what is there. that's it. lol here's the nute regimen:
veg -- take your clones and either go to 16 oz cups or bags no bigger than 1 gal. the more roots present, the bigger container you can go with confidence. if you do cups, just use soil mix and no wormcastings or anything. if you go to 1/2 or 1 gal bags, put a couple handfuls of wormcastings in there (doesn't have to be scientific, you can do half wc's and half soil and they won't burn that is why i love them for nutes you can't fuck it up and the girls LOVE them).
ok. here is something i may not have hit on much, but i will pass it on. get this stuff called "Oregonism" microcorrihaze. (you know how to spell it.) it is a light blue label. expensive, but you only need a teaspoon per gallon of soil (you mix it in the soil, not the water). just put it in the dirt, after you put a few handfuls on the bottom and before putting the plant in the new container, mix it in with the wormcastings, when you transplant to the bag. the stuff smells funky, and is a super fine powder that from what i understand is little tiny bugs and shit that break down the nutrients better in your soil and keep it a good environment. this stuff makes a difference, so i use it. if i can't explain i just don't care. lol
watering in veg -- add nothing to the water except a teaspoon or so of blackstrap, unsuphered molasses. this is to help the little microbes have something to eat and get to colonizing and shit in the soil. i use a tsp or there abouts of molasses ALL THE WAY THROUGH. the only time i don't use it is when i do a complete plain water rise around six weeks in bloom, just before starting the flush. (you saw a pic of this from last week, where they are all lined up in the laundry room, i think..) *** do not water more than once a week in veg, unless you have some serious air flow going and they dry out fast as hell. i am not kidding. while in veg, these girls need to be working their roots' ass off trying to find water. that is their number one job. not vegetative growth, which is the cart, not the horse. only water when they start to look limp, when the leaves are actually starting to droop and the bag is as light as if nothing is in there. then give them a good soak til you see a bit of water coming out bottom. (if they are super super dry, the water will run off more so do it in two smaller soaks instead of one big one.)
ok, once they get to around 3-4 weeks in veg (or less, whatever size you want or whatev works with your system), you will be watering up to 3 times a week. this is when you transplant. i also take the opportunity to clone whatever i want, cuz once i transplant to bigger bags i clean up the bottom 1/4 of vegetative matter. the little growth tips and fan leaves at the bottom, i don't want them in my bloom room so they get cut the fuck off lol. helps with making feeding and water time easier with plants really close together when you are going for a full canopy, it makes the nutrients head towards the top half of the plant where the real light and action is, it creates a much better airflow underneath your canopy to keep the buds healthy, and also makes harvest a much easier task cuz you aren't trying to trim a bunch of little wispy bullshit bottom-dweller nugs. as for overall weight, i actually believe the plants like the trimming and respond with more overall weight. just the way they work, at least for me.
ok transplanting to bloom. from your 1 or 1/2 gal container, go to 3 gallon containers. with my soil mix and feeding schedule idk why it just works best. 5 gal bags never dried out fast enough, and i didn't get any additional root growth into the 5 gal area after tranplanting from the 3, so it was a waste. tried staying in 1 gallon or 2 gal bags and the girls loved it, but was just too much watering for me. 3 gal is the perfect medium, i found.
so you have your 3 gal bags, and you have your above soil mix (FFOF or HF, Pro Mix, and CHunky Perlite). do the same thing as you do for 1st transplant into veg, including the wormcastings and Oregonism microhaze stuff. you want enough nitrogen to get through the first week or two of bloom/stretch.
i noticed a lot of good growers fill the bags up to the very top, with soil. i tried this after years of not doing it. it was not for me. there may be a reason, but the way i top-feed with wormcastings and guano (bloom), i like an inch or two of room to work with on top. also makes watering easier cuz the stuff doesn't run off when you are giving them a good soak. for what it is worth.
ok, the first watering in bloom i don't add anything still except molasses. after about a week in bloom, they will be ready for the next watering. this is when i do the first round of Budswell guano. i'm using the good stuff now. the jamacian or whatever is probably good too but i'm with Budswell at the moment. lol two handfuls of the stuff on top layer of soil, and mix it in.
additives for water in bloom:
bushmaster: this stuff is a lot stronger than i thought, and i always thought it was strong. this harvest only got 2 doses of the bushmaster, in weeks 2 and 3 of bloom. i wouldn't recommend any more than that, and in fact i may only do one dose with the next one. idk if you want to be safe, just don't use it on your first run. i am back and forth on this stuff.
snowstorm ultra: cannot go wrong with this. use it from first guano feeding until start final flush. follow directions on bottle.
kool bloom: also like this. use in concert with the snowstorm ultra, same timeframe. also go light end of directions on bottle.
gravity: last two feedings of bloom, during the flush after you already rinsed out the nutes. yes, i still like this stuff and use it.
important steps. week six, or whenever you are about to stop using nutrients to begin your flush, you need to put each plant near a drain and put water through (i just use plain tap water for this part--all other water is ran through a brita filter, which PH's my tap water perfectly, then into a resovoir where it gets bubbled and serves as cloner).. anyway, put water through until all the shit comes out. i'm talking at least four times you soak the top of the container until standing water is there.
letting the plant go the full run. i have a very hard time with this part lol i want to smoke that shit as soon as week 7 is here. but i'm starting to see how to tell from the leaves when the plant is ready. avoid fucking with microscopes and shit. the leaves will start to get "cripsy"... point up, with the serrated edges reaching high, and the whole fingers get firm and crispy.. idk that is the best i can do other than to say watch trichs for amber, like you can learn anywhere blah blah
drying that shit. don't put it in a jar until the stems snap. not snap and still have some strings holding on. SNAP. a couple extra days hanging will do no harm to your buds before going in a jar for final cure, but a couple too few days and your whole harvest is fucked. you cannot get chronic, the best quality f'ing cannabis, by jarring it up before it was able to dry over about a week. speed it up any way and it just won't be as good. slow it down more, and it will be fucked.
holy shit, hovz, you gotta buy me a beer lol i just wrote forever. gotta go mow the lawn, then put some wormcastings down (shit works great on your lawn too, and is a non-toxic fert so won't kill your pets or stain your sidewalk). .. then come back in to post some sweet pics and an early harvest for the upcoming 4/20
to be continued...
Cant thank you enough for posting that up this should make it really easy for me to go off of. The only shitty part is that i might have to leave for 3-4 days for my new job so i might have to grab some Trompf Blumat's. Once again i can't thank u enough for posting that.