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Grams-Per-Watt is an erroneous measure of productivity

MeanBean

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My situation is great but I also have some of the lowest commercial prices in all of Canada so having low electricity prices isn't really a huge advantage, if your down in the US and paying 4x as much for electricity as me chances are you also are getting paid 2x what im getting paid for my bud and having lower plant numbers is and even greater advantage in case of getting busted.

If your legal with no limit on plant numbers be my guest and run a no veg Sea of Green with hundreds of plants.

Still wondering what this has to do with properly measuring electric use per gram.. It's not about the money for some of us, it's just a hobby. Knowing how to measure your progress.
 

antimatter

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Still wondering what this has to do with properly measuring electric use per gram.. It's not about the money for some of us, it's just a hobby. Knowing how to measure your progress.

If its just a hobby then why take the risk and run Sea of greens when you could perpetually veg 1 plant and flower it under a 1000w. Gram per watt is more about yield per bulb then electricity usage, the measuring of total amount of Kw/hr used vegging and flowering a plant doesn't tell me anything more then how much my "cheap" electrical bill is gonna cost. Bud > Electricity

Honestly this thread smells and is obvious ammunition for people to look into buying Cammies LED lights, and be my guest buy them but im sticking with my 1000w HPS/MH bulbs. For anyone wondering StealthyStalks = Hydro Grow LED aka Cammie/LED Girl.
 

TickleMyBalls

just don't molest my colas..
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this thread is nuts. serious growers are too busy to worry about any cost under $1k. so no one growing for a living is going to use this method. also, why is it being ignored when people bring up location? I know growers in cali pay at least 4x as much for power as I do, so someone running an equal set up will automatically be less efficient than me, unless they produce a lot more than me from the same amount of KWH, which would be impossible, because it's likely they are running A/C and dehumidifiers all year round. So in general, this isn't a good way to compare your grow to others, the only way to use this is to chart your own progress over multiple grows, during the same time of year with the same strain. I know in the summer I use A/C and a Dehumid at my grows, that power consumption doesn't make my grows less efficient.

this measure of productivity is not for the dongle69 or krunchbubble growers. it's for 250w closet growers.
 
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MeanBean

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OK you have shown us u clearly cannot see beyond your perspective. nice. I agree though any thread not about your 1000 watt bulb is DUMB!! who would want such a stupid dumb crap thing!! I don't care wahhwahh. Shut up.
 

antimatter

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Damn you pulled that up quick! I know u jerk it to that. I still like seeing your avatar pop up better...

your seriously giving me negitive ratings on my posts? lol that was my JOKE and you did it. wheew. ok I am done talking with you. Damn I am glad I am not you!!

I never forgot the times you cursed me out and threatened me Cams it feels good to return the hate. :huggg:
 

puffin fresh

Active member
ICMag Donor
I measure in grams per watt per month, I do it this way because I have no interest in how much bud my air conditioner is helping me grow. I want to know under a given area and wattage how much weight I will get during the flowering stage only if everything else is dialed in. I dont measure veg time because it is irrelevant to me, as if I have 400w burning I either have 1 large mother and 100 clones ready for flower or 1 small mother and 4 large vegging plants ready for flower in roughly the same time and space. Also I use at least 50% of my veg space for mothers and fathers so this doesn't really count as some wont be flowered for months or years some times. Therefore for me measuring in g/w/month of flowering is most accurate and could be compared to measuring the kwh of your bulbs only for the duration of flowering anyway. 2c
 
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StealthyStalks

I'm over 40. :whistling:
How long you have been growing doesn't matter anyway, unless you are measuring Grams-Per-Kilowatt Hour-Per year of age.;)
I see people make the same mistakes year after year.
My measurement is still via net profit without compromise of quality.
Not many people can make a quarter million dollar profit off of a space smaller than a garage.
Make sure you figure in your time, rent/mortgage, nutrients used, etc.


Over 40!!! Well then you're as old as dirt like me; but I have no doubt much better looking. :biggrin:

Seriously, 50 is the new 30, so we still have a lot of miles left in us. I wish there were smart women like you with the same mindset out here; your significant other is very lucky.

No, I am very impressed with what you do in your space and your annual yield dwarfs anything I have ever done. My average summer take only equals about two of your grows. If it wasn’t for my daughters and grandchild I would seriously consider moving where I could do the same as you for a living.

I am a controls engineer and could do some pretty trick shit if the sky was the limit and I didn’t have the legal ramifications to worry about. Compared to working with automated manufacturing equipment, setting up the ultimate automated grow room would be kiddies play. I don’t think I can make a robot clean bud as well as a human though; it’s possible, just beyond my expertise.
 
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StealthyStalks

Im a little confused what did I say that was hostile towards your thread? electricity is very cheap where I live and I have no problem with running a veg room, its my personal opinion that having 1-2 large plants per 1000w that yield equivalent or more to SOG is alot better from a legal standpoint then running a no veg efficient SOG, big plants are funner to grow.


No you didn't say or do anything hostile. It just seems everyone is missing the whole point of the post.
 
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StealthyStalks

this thread is nuts. serious growers are too busy to worry about any cost under $1k. so no one growing for a living is going to use this method. also, why is it being ignored when people bring up location? I know growers in cali pay at least 4x as much for power as I do, so someone running an equal set up will automatically be less efficient than me, unless they produce a lot more than me from the same amount of KWH, which would be impossible, because it's likely they are running A/C and dehumidifiers all year round. So in general, this isn't a good way to compare your grow to others, the only way to use this is to chart your own progress over multiple grows, during the same time of year with the same strain. I know in the summer I use A/C and a Dehumid at my grows, that power consumption doesn't make my grows less efficient.

this measure of productivity is not for the dongle69 or krunchbubble growers. it's for 250w closet growers.


Cost has nothing to do with the original post. Nothing. I just kept seeing people on this forum using grams-per-watt as a measure of their productivity, or "green thumb" if you will, and it is an erroneous measurement that says nothing.
 

TickleMyBalls

just don't molest my colas..
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it absolutely isn't an erroneous measure of productivity. it's is an ALTERNATE measure of productivity that doesn't suit your needs. which is obviously the needs of a small hobby grower.
 

TickleMyBalls

just don't molest my colas..
Veteran
No you didn't say or do anything hostile. It just seems everyone is missing the whole point of the post.

which is what exactly? seems like all you're doing is contributing to the debate. your statement has been challenged by people who DO what you stated you WISH you could do. maybe your perspective would change after your goals have been met.
 

TickleMyBalls

just don't molest my colas..
Veteran
Or anyone whos keeping track of there records....

I know after growing for a decent amount of time and having multiple set ups going at once ranging from 2-8kw, I don't have the time or interesting in adding up KWH from every bill for every grow and then marking down on paper what my productivity is from each place and doing a math equation at the end of the year. my year has been productive if I produced more than the year before. If it's anything less I haven't reached my goals. simple as that.
 

MeanBean

Member
I know after growing for a decent amount of time and having multiple set ups going at once ranging from 2-8kw, I don't have the time or interesting in adding up KWH from every bill for every grow and then marking down on paper what my productivity is from each place and doing a math equation at the end of the year. my year has been productive if I produced more than the year before. If it's anything less I haven't reached my goals. simple as that.



u da greatest boss.
 
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StealthyStalks

it absolutely isn't an erroneous measure of productivity. it's is an ALTERNATE measure of productivity that doesn't suit your needs. which is obviously the needs of a small hobby grower.


Yes, it is a FLAWED ALTERNATE measure that is pretty much useless in defining a baseline. And I don't need to do anything to suit my needs; just trying to point out the flawed measure everyone uses on here.

Yep, just a hobbie that pays about as much as my real job and I earn pretty good money for what I do. What do you do?
 
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