Free Tommy Robinson

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Mr Robinson didn't 'bust' into any courtroom.....when detained this last time he was OUTSIDE in the street while the Judge was reading out the sentence on the case of this grooming gang INSIDE the courthouse. The trial had already been decided by the jury, so he could not have been interfering at all.....in any way.

What this is about is a cover-up by the British Government to suppress and hide the MASSIVE scale of what is going on with these Pakistani muslim pedo gangs, and the suppression of the one person that is standing up to shout about it to increase awareness.

There is HUGE support from British people for Robinson because we feel that we are being treated like 2nd class citizens within our own nation by our own government, and our children are at risk from this systematic and wide spread abuse, and it has nothing what-so-ever to do with this political bollocks of who's a 'leftie' or who's a 'righty' 'cos I ain't either.

 

[vta]

Freedom of speech in the UK ?

 

[vta]

This isn't a Left or Right issue...this is about Free Speech...free Speech against CHILD RAPISTS. But please tell us how we are wrong....pedosplaners please don't reply...we already heard it.

 

[vta]

Mr Robinson didn't 'bust' into any courtroom.....when detained this last time he was OUTSIDE in the street while the Judge was reading out the sentence on the case of this grooming gang INSIDE the courthouse. The trial had already been decided by the jury, so he could not have been interfering at all.....in any way.

What this is about is a cover-up by the British Government to suppress and hide the MASSIVE scale of what is going on with these Pakistani muslim pedo gangs, and the suppression of the one person that is standing up to shout about it to increase awareness.

There is HUGE support from British people for Robinson because we feel that we are being treated like 2nd class citizens within our own nation by our own government, and our children are at risk from this systematic and wide spread abuse, and it has nothing what-so-ever to do with this political bollocks of who's a 'leftie' or who's a 'righty' 'cos I ain't either.

But...but Gypsy...Tommy is a Nazi ! PaintHuffingPost told me so. Islam is the religion of peace...didn't you hear Obama ??? Surly the religion of peace would be against child rape !

Oh wait....that's right...it is VERY common in the Islamic world to wed children..sex with kids and goats....classy.



Here is an educational video about the man behind the religion..lol

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[Gypsy Nirvana]

The decision on Tommy Robinson's appeal will be with us within the next couple of hours,
here is the latest from The Daily Mail; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6013407/Tommy-Robinson-learn-appeal-outcome.html

some comments from the article linked above:

LeeW, Red Pill FTW., United Kingdom, about 2 hours ago

If the police, judiciary, social workers and MSM were not so intent on keeping such crimes as low profile as possible for political reasons then people such as Tommy Robinson may not feel so motivated to bring them into the public domain. As long as the establishment feel the need cover anything up there will be those who want to bring it to light remembering that no member of the public was ever given a vote in creating the social conditions that lead to such offences.

Hplovecraft, Derby, United Kingdom, about 2 hours ago

I don't support his beliefs but locking him up for this is not fair when compared to the treatment of others It's just a justification of everything he says and will no doubt raise his profile amoungst his followers



FrankFisher, macclesfield, United Kingdom, about 2 hours ago

"freedom of speech comes with a responsibility to speak within the law". Nope. If it does then it is not free speech. Sorry judge, you may be right in law, but you are wrong in principle, as are the rest of our illiberal Establishment.

MsMissZ, HereandNow, United Kingdom, 2 hours ago

I've listened to his videos. He's not far right and the media always seems to get this crucial fact wrong. It doesn't fit the narrative though I get it.

 

[vta]

In a nutshell...



https://twitter.com/rekon345/status/993993735116640256

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

We don't seem to only be importing the potential abuse of young girls/children from the Pakistani community, other islamic communities/nations which we have many represented with in the UK also have these crimes against little girls rife within their own patriarchal societies.

Afghan child bride is tortured to death by her husband in a revenge killing after being forced to marry him in a traditional bridal exchange

The body of the girl, who is aged between seven and 10, was found on Sunday
Hameya's husband was on the run and her father was detained for questioning

The little girl was married six months ago under a tradition known as 'badal'
Badal sees girls exchanged between families as brides to reduce marriage costs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...d-bride-killed-husband-revenge-officials.html

An Afghan child forced to marry a man at least twice her age in a traditional bridal exchange was tortured to death by her husband in a revenge killing, officials said.

The body of the girl called Hameya, whom authorities estimate was aged between seven and 10, was found on Sunday night, Naqibullah Amini, police spokesman for the northwestern province of Badghis, said.

Hameya's husband was on the run from police and her father had been detained for questioning, Amini added.

Provincial governor's spokesman Jamshid Shahabi said Hameya was married under a tradition known as 'badal', when girls are exchanged between two families as brides.

Badal enables both families to reduce the cost of marriage by avoiding paying a dowry.

After the other girl in the arrangement was killed by her own husband, Hameya's husband began to torture her in revenge and eventually killed her, Shahabi said.

Hameya's husband, whom officials said was aged between 20 and 30, already had at least one wife, according to Lailuma Noorzad, head of the provincial women's affairs department.

Hameya had been married for six months, officials said.

The legal marriage age in Afghanistan is 16 for girls and 18 for boys, according to the United Nations.

But the traditional practice of marrying children still persists in the conservative and patriarchal country, largely due to poverty and insecurity.

At least one in three Afghan girls is married before they turn 18, the United Nations Children's Fund said in a recent report.

 

[kushedy]

This is an internet forum primarily concerned with people who grow weed (but of course you know that!) and you want everyone to confess their skin colour their religion and their location in order for you to deem wether they are worthy of having an opinion of the complete and utter pile of dog turd that is racial or religious profiling in order to ascertain like liklihood of perpetuating peadophillia or rape. Fack sake. The whole lot of it is just beyond bullshit. There is lists of members of the EDL who are paedos rapists the whole lot online google is yer friend. Infact most paedos in my neck of the woods (which is none of your fucking business) are balding white fuckers who sit behind their laptop until they are caught. And not by idiots like Tommy fuckwit. There are moderate or hard line rapists paedos and ****s. Their religion is neither here nor there nor is their skin colour. Thats where the whole thing is going wrong. They are just plain ****s. All the rest is bollix.

When I joined this thread, I had very little knowledge of Tommy Robinson or the issues being debated here. Rather than just assume the main stream articles painting the guy as a racist nazi scum bag were correct I spent some time looking at both sides of the story & drew my own conclusions. There a lot of people who have just gone with the main stream flow & not bothered looking into this. If they had they would at least understand that there are issues around this guy being locked up in the way he was. There are also issues with the Muslim faith at a minimum. There are a lot of Muslin scholars who admit this but are powerless to do anything about it as apparently the Koran is classed as the perfect plan & therefore cannot be changed. You can argue every religion has issues & you’d be right but the issues with the Muslim faith end with non-believers in this country being abused or killed so it’s a little more serious than most.


A lot of the people I have responded too on this thread have just been crying out bullshit, racist, liar etc etc with nothing to support that statement & no context.
This is an international forum predominantly frequented by people in countries other than the United Kingdom.
Explain this to me, if I make a statement about my like experiences in this country looking to openly debate this in an adult manor, what right does someone who lives in Canada & has never stepped foot in the UK (for example) have to come online & call me a liar & not even offer a reason or evidence for that insult?

Now before you go at that clever clogs if you had read my posts properly rather than getting on your own high horse you would have realised that I did not say people should state which country they come from, nor did I ask for a declaration of skin colour! I stated maybe people should state time spent in the UK & religion if any!
I would like to think this was just your stupidity at work, misunderstanding this but I find myself questioning if you are trying to bend what I have said (even though it is black & white) to make yourself look good & further your own agenda be that trolling, points earning or whatever your game is. Is it playing the race card again? It's only you Beta & Water making it about skin colour?

Me asking for both may seem a bit extreme but when someone is turning up to a debate on a forum & just digging, trolling essentially & calling people racists for posts start are not actually racist I find myself trying to logically work out why they are doing that, why they won’t engage in open logical debate & there are only a few options that pop out of that mental equation. One of which being that the person in question is a Muslim which quite obviously is not a crime nor an issue if willing to debate openly & add context to their view. But if just trolling, calling people racists solely because they are Muslims & are incapable of engaging in open debate they should not be posting on this thread in the first place for obvious reasons. Conflict of interests plus trolling is against forum ruiles.

I appreciate that asking everyone to lay their cards on the table is a little extreme but my reasons are fairly clear & logical. If people would actually opening debate rather than trolling I would not have had to make such a request. Me doing so was out of exasperation.

Since doing so I’ve had you & one of your other little friends roll by hurling insults, again with no context at all. In fact, I am replying to the first message you have actually bothered writing more than one sentence & even in that you’ve accused me of asking for things that I clearly have not!

You are now banging on about the EDL being full of paedos. Well the guy in question is no longer part of that organisation, plus aren’t a large percentage of our politicians paedos as well? No-one on this thread ever declared support for the EDL! As already pointed out this thread is not a fan thread for Tommy Robinson its about him being dealt with in quite a dodgy manor & a religion. If you want to discuss paedos in general or EDL or both why don’t you start a thread to that effect.



You are trying to turn this thread into an argument that suits your own interests.
Before you dive into a situation flinging shit maybe you should try to read through the thread properly so that you actually do know what the hell you are talking about.

 

[kushedy]

you are confused.

you are not white

Define British?

Do you know anything about the genetic history of Britain?

Wasn’t it you who asked if & new what right & wrong meant a few pages back & then ran away when I pointed out jovially how stupid your message was?
So now you feel you have some backing with you, have grown a pair & are stepping forward again with some intellectual put downs.
I’m confused am I, well read the reply & just typed out to superx which goes at length to clearly identify he is confused. Does that statement sound like the witlings of someone who is confused or someone who knows exactly what they want to say & how to say it?

I am not white, ok well its not like we have profile photos of us is it, for obvious reasons so yeah I could be white, black, brown, glow in the dark yellow. This thread has never been about colour. If you had really read it & understood it you would know that.
Is that you trying to play the race card? After someone has already been caught out for that!
Are you really that dumb. You think you can win this argument by trying to make this about skin colour when it quite clearly is not. It’s about a religion, not a skin colour & a man apparently being fitted up in court.


Define British, someone who was born in Britain or has gained citizenship through the appropriate channels. Really!

Do I know about the genetic history of Britain, yeah, I do. I was taught this thing called history at school. It’s this crazy thing where they teach you all about what has happened in the past including the things like mankind’s origins as a whole, evolution, invasions of Britain & mingling of blood lines etc etc, you get the drift.

 

[Gry]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gry
We do live in times that make the world seem like an asylum.

Quote:vta
No shit ! Have you seen that Commie chick from the Bronx ? Talk about stupid ! Her own words write memes. Pathetic !
__________________

Would you be attempting to describe the stunning democratic socialist by the name of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ?

She has something your corporate masters fear.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Former EDL leader Tommy Robinson is FREED on bail by Court of Appeal after winning a challenge against 13-month contempt of court jail term for filming Facebook Live outside trial.

Former EDL leader Tommy Robinson is appealing against his 13-month jail term.

He was locked up in May after he filmed people involved in a criminal trial.

Robinson broadcast the footage on Facebook and it was watched 250,000 times

Former English Defence League (EDL) leader Tommy Robinson was freed on bail today after his 13 month jail term for contempt of court was slashed.

The far right activist, 35, has been in prison for two months after being locked up in May after filming people involved in a criminal trial at Leeds Crown Court and broadcast the footage on Facebook.

Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, has successfully appealed against his 13-month jail term for contempt of court.

Announcing the decision on Wednesday, Lord Burnett said the court was allowing his appeal 'in respect of the committal for contempt at Leeds Crown Court' - but said the case would be heard again.

The decision to send him to prison has sparked several protests all over the country and the campaign to get him freed has garnered support abroad, especially in the United States.

Announcing the decision on Wednesday, Lord Burnett said the court was allowing his appeal 'in respect of the committal for contempt at Leeds Crown Court'.

He added: 'The appellant is granted bail and the matter of contempt at Leeds Crown Court is remitted to be heard again.'

Robinson's footage, lasting around an hour, was watched 250,000 times within hours of being posted on Facebook.

Robinson, 35, sent a legal team to the Court of Appeal in London to argue his sentence should be cut.

But leading judges reserved their decision until today.

Robinson, 35, whose real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, watched via video link from prison.

During the last hearing, his QC Jeremy Dein urged Lord Burnett and two other judges to overturn contempt of court findings, submitting that procedural 'deficiencies' had given rise to 'prejudice'.

Mr Dein, when asking the judges to reduce the jail sentence, argued that it was 'manifestly excessive', and said that 'insufficient weight' had been given to personal mitigation.

The QC said the proceedings in Leeds had been 'unnecessarily and unjustifiably rushed'.


Well......at least Mr Robinson is now free on bail to continue his quest to bring more awareness to the masses about these Pakistani Islamic Pedo Grooming Gangs, and I support that in EVERY WAY!....We have more than enough sexual abuse of children and teenagers going on as it is without hiding the wholesale mass islamic pedo gang culture within our own society.

 

[Gry]

We don't seem to only be importing the potential abuse of young girls/children from the Pakistani community, other islamic communities/nations which we have many represented with in the UK also have these crimes against little girls rife within their own patriarchal societies.

Afghan child bride is tortured to death by her husband in a revenge killing after being forced to marry him in a traditional bridal exchange

The body of the girl, who is aged between seven and 10, was found on Sunday
Hameya's husband was on the run and her father was detained for questioning

The little girl was married six months ago under a tradition known as 'badal'
Badal sees girls exchanged between families as brides to reduce marriage costs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...d-bride-killed-husband-revenge-officials.html

An Afghan child forced to marry a man at least twice her age in a traditional bridal exchange was tortured to death by her husband in a revenge killing, officials said.

The body of the girl called Hameya, whom authorities estimate was aged between seven and 10, was found on Sunday night, Naqibullah Amini, police spokesman for the northwestern province of Badghis, said.

Hameya's husband was on the run from police and her father had been detained for questioning, Amini added.

Provincial governor's spokesman Jamshid Shahabi said Hameya was married under a tradition known as 'badal', when girls are exchanged between two families as brides.

Badal enables both families to reduce the cost of marriage by avoiding paying a dowry.

After the other girl in the arrangement was killed by her own husband, Hameya's husband began to torture her in revenge and eventually killed her, Shahabi said.

Hameya's husband, whom officials said was aged between 20 and 30, already had at least one wife, according to Lailuma Noorzad, head of the provincial women's affairs department.

Hameya had been married for six months, officials said.

The legal marriage age in Afghanistan is 16 for girls and 18 for boys, according to the United Nations.

But the traditional practice of marrying children still persists in the conservative and patriarchal country, largely due to poverty and insecurity.

At least one in three Afghan girls is married before they turn 18, the United Nations Children's Fund said in a recent report.

Not everything the East India Corporation did worked so well, but then that was the whole point.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Below you will see a typical childish response to this debate.
A one liner without any explanation looking like it is accusing anyone that might support Mr Robinson's position to expose Pakistani Muslim Pedo Gangs of being a 'Nazi'...

Well Pinnate here is a definition of the word from the Miriam-Webster dictionary for your're education:

Definition of Nazism

: the body of political and economic doctrines held and put into effect by the Nazis in Germany from 1933 to 1945 including the totalitarian principle of government, predominance of especially Germanic groups assumed to be racially superior, and supremacy of the führer

How you manage to relate 'Nazi' with anyone supporting Mr Robinson within this thread I cannot at all fathom, so I will just assume it is trolling the thread with pointless and undeserved name-calling.

Don't rejoice yet Nazis ─ it isn't over...

 

[Water-]

Wasn’t it you who asked if & new what right & wrong meant a few pages back & then ran away when I pointed out jovially how stupid your message was?
So now you feel you have some backing with you, have grown a pair & are stepping forward again with some intellectual put downs.
I’m confused am I, well read the reply & just typed out to superx which goes at length to clearly identify he is confused. Does that statement sound like the witlings of someone who is confused or someone who knows exactly what they want to say & how to say it?

I am not white, ok well its not like we have profile photos of us is it, for obvious reasons so yeah I could be white, black, brown, glow in the dark yellow. This thread has never been about colour. If you had really read it & understood it you would know that.
Is that you trying to play the race card? After someone has already been caught out for that!
Are you really that dumb. You think you can win this argument by trying to make this about skin colour when it quite clearly is not. It’s about a religion, not a skin colour & a man apparently being fitted up in court.


Define British, someone who was born in Britain or has gained citizenship through the appropriate channels. Really!

Do I know about the genetic history of Britain, yeah, I do. I was taught this thing called history at school. It’s this crazy thing where they teach you all about what has happened in the past including the things like mankind’s origins as a whole, evolution, invasions of Britain & mingling of blood lines etc etc, you get the drift.

You seem upset.


Do you know why this issue stirs up so much emotion in you?


so what you are saying is that it does not matter what your skin color is or your religion or where you were born as long as you are legal than you are British. And you want to insist that only legal British citizens should be able to comment on the subject of this thread?

A bit closed minded, don't you think?

 

[Pinnate]

Well Pinnate here is a definition of the word from the Miriam-Webster dictionary for your're[sic] education:

It's just kinda dispiriting to see you (of all people) voice support for the very ideology that gave us prohibition...and other shit...

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Can you perhaps be more precise please?

What ideology gave us prohibition?

....and how am I voicing any support for this ideology?

*Honestly what you say makes absolutely no sense to me at all, but do continue, and perhaps we will all learn something about what you might be attempting to get at here. Are you saying that the 'Nazi's' started cannabis prohibition?.....if so you are VERY wrong.

It's just kinda dispiriting to see you (of all people) voice support for the very ideology that gave us prohibition...and other shit...

 

[Pinnate]

Are you saying that the 'Nazi's' started cannabis prohibition?.....if so you are VERY wrong.

WTF! You think prohibition is a 'liberal thing'???


Jeeez! If you don't know by now that Anslinger and Hearst were outright, rabid Nazis, you're a moron!!!

 

[kushedy]

You seem upset.


Do you know why this issue stirs up so much emotion in you?


so what you are saying is that it does not matter what your skin color is or your religion or where you were born as long as you are legal than you are British. And you want to insist that only legal British citizens should be able to comment on the subject of this thread?

A bit closed minded, don't you think?

[FONT=&quot]Well I’m not overly fond of being accused of racism or being called a liar, especially when the people calling me those names actually appear to be the racists & liars.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I think that answers both your first 2 points.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]That is my technical understanding of what makes you British. Is there another definition I am not aware of?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Are you trying to differentiate between English & British?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This is part of why I get upset water I have to actually help you make your own arguments! You seem to be very muddled on skin colour, race & religion. I’m starting to think you don’t actually understand the differences between them.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]At no point as you are no doubt fully aware have I stated that non-legal British citizens cannot make comments. I’ve even stated on multiple occasions that views from those living abroad are welcome if they can actually add some context, evidence or reasoning to logically back up their opinion, of which there has been none to date.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]You seem to like going around in circles. It’s an approach I have seen many times water & unfortunately for you I can see it a mile off & work around it, though it or over which is kind of demonstrated by me having to help you make your own arguments clear![/FONT]

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

My opinion:

I can understand Robinsons position having grown up to witness the islamification of this country I hold so dear to my heart, as he has also witnessed....

The problem is that particularly the liberal left do not read the islamic text to even know the political ambitions of Islam, which is totalitarian/fascist in every way....there can never be a reformation of Islam due to it being cast in stone that the Qu'ran is the absolute and unquestionable word of their God Allah to the 1.5 billion muslims that identify with this fascist religion/ideology of islam worldwide.

I have had it confirmed to me at the local mosque that Mohammed did indeed marry a young girl child of 6 years old and was having full sex with her by the time she was 9 years old. Now, muslim/islamic men are encouraged/ordered to lead their lives in the image of their holy prophet Mohammed, and that there is only one law they should abide by and that is islamic law which does not condone having sex with children. So these Pakistani Muslim Pedo Gangs are committing these crimes against kids believing that they are only doing what Mohammed advocated and did within his own life, so they have no guilt at all whatsoever. ....and that is OUTRAGEOUS!

For all means and purposes the Qu'ran actually looks to encourage sex with children and that is absolutely WRONG and should be STOPPED here in our nation and not covered up by the government currently in power.

 

[kushedy]

Former EDL leader Tommy Robinson is FREED on bail by Court of Appeal after winning a challenge against 13-month contempt of court jail term for filming Facebook Live outside trial.

Former EDL leader Tommy Robinson is appealing against his 13-month jail term.

He was locked up in May after he filmed people involved in a criminal trial.

Robinson broadcast the footage on Facebook and it was watched 250,000 times

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Former English Defence League (EDL) leader Tommy Robinson was freed on bail today after his 13 month jail term for contempt of court was slashed.

The far right activist, 35, has been in prison for two months after being locked up in May after filming people involved in a criminal trial at Leeds Crown Court and broadcast the footage on Facebook.

Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, has successfully appealed against his 13-month jail term for contempt of court.

Announcing the decision on Wednesday, Lord Burnett said the court was allowing his appeal 'in respect of the committal for contempt at Leeds Crown Court' - but said the case would be heard again.

The decision to send him to prison has sparked several protests all over the country and the campaign to get him freed has garnered support abroad, especially in the United States.

Announcing the decision on Wednesday, Lord Burnett said the court was allowing his appeal 'in respect of the committal for contempt at Leeds Crown Court'.

He added: 'The appellant is granted bail and the matter of contempt at Leeds Crown Court is remitted to be heard again.'

Robinson's footage, lasting around an hour, was watched 250,000 times within hours of being posted on Facebook.

Robinson, 35, sent a legal team to the Court of Appeal in London to argue his sentence should be cut.

But leading judges reserved their decision until today.

Robinson, 35, whose real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, watched via video link from prison.

During the last hearing, his QC Jeremy Dein urged Lord Burnett and two other judges to overturn contempt of court findings, submitting that procedural 'deficiencies' had given rise to 'prejudice'.

Mr Dein, when asking the judges to reduce the jail sentence, argued that it was 'manifestly excessive', and said that 'insufficient weight' had been given to personal mitigation.

The QC said the proceedings in Leeds had been 'unnecessarily and unjustifiably rushed'.


Well......at least Mr Robinson is now free on bail to continue his quest to bring more awareness to the masses about these Pakistani Islamic Pedo Grooming Gangs, and I support that in EVERY WAY!....We have more than enough sexual abuse of children and teenagers going on as it is without hiding the wholesale mass islamic pedo gang culture within our own society.

[FONT=&quot]Good news Gypsy. Not out of the woods yet but a step in the right direction.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]There have been a lot of people on this thread trying to make this all out to be a skin colour issue & calling people Nazi’s, racists, liars etc etc.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]If these people had spent half the time they’ve spent arguing on this site actually investigating what happened i.e. both sides of the storey rather than just baying for media induced mob justice they may have realised that there was something very fishy about the way in which this guy was handled by the establishment & maybe reserved a little judgment. Maybe not gone into this gun blazing.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]People being fitted up by the establishment should be considered a problem for everyone living under UK law. We are talking about the laws that govern you & me. If the powers that be can get away with fitting this guy up because he is inconvenient they can do it to anyone they like! [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Drum up a smear campaign & send in the boys in blue.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Regardless of you liking him or not this is a step forward for justice & a blow to a very worryingly bent establishment.[/FONT]