Found my long lost seed collection

[resinryder]

I had a cut of genius. culled it. I thought it was WAY overrated, but I guess that's personal preference.

Good to know. I had it but due to a problem it had to go and go with the quickness so I never got to try it. Always felt like I was missing out until ready this. Thanks for the info. I feel a bit better about it now.

 

[PoweredByLove]

Tutti Fruiti

since you have some seeds, can you tell what this cross is? i thought it was just another name for IBG? i had some once it was some of the best i've ever smoked. loved it. so what is in this tutti frutti of yours ?

 

[Katsu]

since you have some seeds, can you tell what this cross is? i thought it was just another name for IBG? i had some once it was some of the best i've ever smoked. loved it. so what is in this tutti frutti of yours ?

No idea. Sorry.

 

[Katsu]

Good to know. I had it but due to a problem it had to go and go with the quickness so I never got to try it. Always felt like I was missing out until ready this. Thanks for the info. I feel a bit better about it now.

Don't give it another thought. I don't want to say it was garbage, but it was nothing special. Taste was okay and the high was eh. The Chocolate Trip had a lot of good Sativa head buzz and a way better taste, get a cut of that...

 

[SeedyPast]

Best of luck on the germination. I'm a sativa head too, so the Viet Black, and the Trainwreck x Cambodian are particularly interesting to me. As others have said, pureish sativas have suffered from a lack of preservation in the last few decades.

 

[Secret Stash]

Really exciting to see you found your hidden stash! Can't wait to see what comes from them and hope I come across some when you start spreading the love!

 

[Secret Stash]

I see many Katsu cuts coming lol Its not just Katsu Bubba anymore

 

[JACKBAYBEH]

Pretty sure Dutch Flowers had their fingers in these genetics. The FigWidow stuff has always had my eye.

I'm still misty eyed thinking about it. What sort of experience do you have popping old beans?

I believe the FW came from Mota. Not sure who did the cross with the Haze/Skunk. My experience with FW came from a cross of it to the Airbourne G13 cut. I had a mother I kept that was the best out of 18 beans. Would kill to have her back. Still some of the most memorable bud I ever grew.
I've cracked plenty of old beans in the past. Just recently got 7 out of 8
old MountainJam F2's from JLP to germ. These were about 11 years old.
6 ended up taking off with normal vigor. They were sealed tight and in an old refridgerator all these years. I do nothing but scuff really well then soak in a kelp solution with a couple drops of SuperThrive for a full 24 hours. Then into some PromixBX wetted down with the same solution. Into a dome on top of a heat mat. Took these 8 days to break the surface. Got 5 for 5 old Reeferman LP1 to pop the same way back in the spring. These were original release from 04. I would bet a great deal of those beans your holding will pop and attempt to grow. I'm sure they got some life left in them. Good luck brother.

 

[yesum]

^^ I think I will buy some SuperThrive. How much water for the 2 drops? A drop per cup of water is what the bottle says.

 

[rykus]

Try to find a little old garden shop and look for the old bottles of superthrive with the metal lid... they changed the formula to stay organic or something... doesnt have NAA or something now... not nearly the same as it was IMO...and its a very strong ph down so be careful...

with the time it takes some old beans to pop id still recommend going ultra sterile till you see tails... then plant in a lighter mix like a peat perlite based starter mix... or screen pro mix hp and add perlite...

I have seen very old beans sprout, if they where kept decently dry and cool they seem to last 20-30 years and still get some to germinate....

 

[neongreen]

Not sure who did the cross with the Haze/Skunk.

I'm not sure either, but I know the Haze#19 is from Wernard/the old Positronics. I do wonder which skunk was used!

Many years ago, long before CW, a friend and I grew some Haze/Skunk F1s from Positronics. My grow got broken into and had to be scrapped, but a single Haze/Skunk clone was saved and grown out by my friend. It was a gorgeous plant in every way, and the buds were some of the best smoke I've ever had!

Haze/Skunk is something I would love to see brought back. The Haze#19 clone it seems is almost god-like in it's ability to pass on favorable traits. Here are a few quotes I saved that relate to Haze/Skunk:

I can vouch for Dutch Flower's Haze #19 x Skunk, it's got to be one of the best indoor sativas ever, to the point where there is no point in waiting for a "pure" landrace sativa or even Neville's Haze to finish outdoors. The power of their Haze #19 is indistinguishable from pure sun-grown Haze, and it goes way back to the beginning of the 80's, great stuff. Adam Tripper

Soon the Haze/Skunk Bx1 will be fat enough for a nice shot. It is a 2'+ cola. It may take the lead for yield, depending on how she fattens up. She's already very resinous. Memy Selfandi

Best bets in the garden: Hawaiian Punch, X-13, C99, Five-Finger Lady, Haze/Skunk. The haze/skunk might just turn out to be the yielder, we'll see... it's going to take a bit longer for her to finish. I think we are close to ten weeks with her... pistils are turning, buds are solid, and covered with fat trichomes! Memy Selfandi

I have some Haze/Skunk going now, and woo hoo! It looks like cotton candy it has so much resin on it! Memy Selfandi

Of the Haze/Skunk, I have the one keeper female that I revegged back in the flowering room and plan on pollenating her with Nevil's Haze pollen as soon as there are enough flowers... good yielder in sog with a great odor and up high. Memy Selfandi

About the haze/skunk; this was a batch of auction seeds (CIA Amsterdam's Haze/Skunk Bx1). I really like one of the ladies that popped the first go-round. She remains in my garden. I love the taste/smell of this one, it is almost creamy... hard to describe, but I love it! Memy Selfandi

The Haze/Skunk bx1 is in my 'top 5' of personal favorites!Deciding what to smoke isn't too hard, I mostly stick to G13 and the C99 variants, maybe some Bubblegum... if I want energy, the Haze Skunk is the way to go, for more of a coma feeling, the G for me! the Haze i am growing is a backcross to Haze, so it has a bit 'more' Haze in it, maybe... mine ain't no 3 meters, that's for sure. I flowered this one at ~18", she's finishing (if I hadn't bent her over like a shotgun) at 4 feet plus... she is well-behaved, finishes early for such a sativa-dom, and the smell will knock you on your butt before you even take a hit! Memy Selfandi

Our original Positronics Haze dominates this cross, but through heavy selection we were able to very significantly shorten flowering period (9+ weeks) and height down to a very manageable level (multiply flowering height by a factor of 3). Yield is very good, an excellent sea of green plant (as it tend to grow to one HUGE central cola) with a very haunting creamy, sweet incense-like taste that is the favorite of many. Tasty (curiously so), extremely oily-crystally buds give a racy, wavy, long-lasting UP high that is very enjoyable but strong-strong (can give anxiety attacks to some individuals!). Very vigorous easy to grow plants. DF Description. I agree with Dutchflowers description pretty much. Their Haze Skunk is actually better looking than DF said. I love the green/gold leaves and the fruity smell while growing. My friend Reverand Budbreath did a taste test for me on all these strains. He concluded that the Haze Skunk was two hit pot. I agree. I like the flavor but he thought it a little harsh. It is continuing to improve as it cures. The smells are really nice on all the girls. The Fig Widow was pure black pepper while growing but now that it has cured smells like sweet spice-maybe cinnamon. She was completely covered with crystal. The Blue Widow was awesome. Huge buds and the sweetest smell you have ever smelled. Her taste is just as sweet as well. I think the smell is like warm blueberry pie. Hope this helps. Jojorizo

And Fig Widow x Haze/Skunk:

From the OT description.....
The Fig Widow x Haze/Skunk Mother is a short, bushy plant that yields rock-solid nuggets, that have a very spicy aroma/flavor.Dman

fig widow x haze skunk.....nice friggin plant!

very stable looking and all have a fairly fat leaf. low odor and the plant takes on a hospital smell meaning the pot when its growing smell like medicine.
a breeze to clone whether in dirt or water.
when smoked its a very up high at first then a little coucklock takes effect.
if you dont top the plant in veg it will focus on building a huge main cola. if you top it you will have several nice size colas but not as big or fat if you didnt top it. i found it to be a gooder for dirt growing and also on a ebb and flow table. in dirt top them....on a table no.

i have 2 different mothers of this strain that are being cloned for outdoors. neither though is the same momma Dman used to make Oldtimer but you all would never know cause as i say that strain was very stable and all females look identical.

i bought these off C-bay under the extreme name from jojorizo around the same time i bought saint louis sleeper.Sweetleaf

ALL the genetics in the Fig Widow x Haze Skunk came from Dutch Flowers. The DFW is the Durban Fig Widow, also by DF. Other crosses that Dutch Flowers released were the Orange Fig Widow and the first G13 cross I remember offered here, the G13 x Fig Widow aka GFW. I can personally vouch for the GFW and the pure Fig Widow, they are awesome. Do a search, you'll see RainMan doing a lot of work with Orange Fig Widow, Adam Tripper and Sir Haze having the original Durban Fig Widow (which went for less than $50 on C-Bay, DF as always started the auction at $5 with no reserve, but they were not known in the US back then).

Anything with FW, provided the person making the seeds did not get the pollen mixed up or had extremely poor selection, should be very, very worth growing... almost a collector's item. Everyone is looking for Blowfish, Venomberry, Chocolate Trip clones... they should all be looking for DFW, FW, or OFW clones IMHO.KaliMister

My experience with FW came from a cross of it to the Airbourne G13 cut. I had a mother I kept that was the best out of 18 beans. Would kill to have her back. Still some of the most memorable bud I ever grew.

There were a lot of people raving about the FW and FW hybrids back then. I'm hoping someone still has the pure FW/FS saved. Mota perhaps?

 

[JACKBAYBEH]

^^ I think I will buy some SuperThrive. How much water for the 2 drops? A drop per cup of water is what the bottle says.

I use very little SuperThrive. A couple drops to a liter of the kelp solution. I added it on a whim once way back and it worked well so....
Don't fix what ain't broken. I've been told by a few that I shouldn't mix the two though. Redundant maybe? Anyway, you need very little, pretty powerful imo. I'm closer to the suggested mixture for transplanting according to the direction on my current bottle.

Thanks for posting that info NeonGreen. I can certainly vouch for the GFW. I bet the DFW had phenos that were insane as well. But, now it's got me asking more questions. I didn't know DutchFlowers had anything to do with it. I was gifted 2 dozen GFW beans by a cat with the handle "DankMaster" back when we were on the old CW site. He led me to believe that he had done the cross. I think he was affiliated with NCGA in some way. A few months after I got my beans he sent a grip to Richard at HS and was selling them as the "OmegaG". IIRC there was only ever that one lot sent. Anyway, who knows. Either way I'd love to have a dozen more. And that Haze19 is a classic cut. It's been discussed here and there ever since I joined the online MJ community back in the late 90's.
I wonder where JoJo got his bluewidow from as well. I ran NCGA's BW way back (blueberry x 98 Aloha WW) and it def fit his description. Really nice bud. A buddy in FL crossed it to Cindy and I found a few stellar mothers from that pairing as well. Ah, the good old days.

 

[Katsu]

Here's my top 6 (#1 is out of a sense of obligation)

Vietnamese Black F2
Malawi x White Russian
'98 Aloha White Widow x Blowfish
Fig Widow x Haze/Skunk
Mothers Finest
Romulan

 

[neongreen]

Thanks for posting that info NeonGreen. I can certainly vouch for the GFW. I bet the DFW had phenos that were insane as well. But, now it's got me asking more questions. I didn't know DutchFlowers had anything to do with it. I was gifted 2 dozen GFW beans by a cat with the handle "DankMaster" back when we were on the old CW site. He led me to believe that he had done the cross. I think he was affiliated with NCGA in some way. A few months after I got my beans he sent a grip to Richard at HS and was selling them as the "OmegaG". IIRC there was only ever that one lot sent. Anyway, who knows. Either way I'd love to have a dozen more. And that Haze19 is a classic cut. It's been discussed here and there ever since I joined the online MJ community back in the late 90's.

The only connection I can see between DutchFlowers and the FW is that they released some FW and hybrids - at least that's what I have read:
Fig Widow
Champagne Fig Widow
G13 x Fig Widow
Orange Fig Widow
Romulan x Fig Widow

Ahh yes, DankMaster... I have quite a few saved quotes from him too relating to the FW. Here are a bunch more including those from DankMaster:

Fig Widow was a huge yielding, white widow and like GM said "fig skunk" cross (localized clone?). One of the first pics of it i saw was a huge amount of bud on one plant.... like an unbelieveable amount. picture smaller than the great Kong but bigger than the Green Giant milk jug pic. Irish (CW Administrator)

Fig Widow: 8 or 10 ounces from a 400w or some crazed number. one plant. forget calyx to leaf this had calyx to branch ratio. heheh. Irish (CW Administrator)

"I've just got some Durban x Fig Widow (Dutch Flower's) from a friend too, he says it's one of his all time, all time favourites of all time. Can't wait!" FunBoy

"I've smoked a couple of Fig Widow crosses now, and every one has blown me away. The high has a quality that most weed doesn't. It's difficult to put a finger on, but it's hinted at in the white widow, and is awesome in the Fig Widow. It has POWER and COMPLEXITY. I may sound like a bit of a caner talking rubbish, so the best way to find out what I'm on about is to grow out your beans. I've got Durban x Fig Widow (Dutch Flower's) and following the first harvest 2 weeks ago, I'm setting up a new grow room to grow this strain exclusively. The Fig Widow high seems to carry in crosses, without being totally dominant, it enhances... but i'll find this out for myself, it'll be forming the basis of all my crosses from now on, Or at least until I can get my hands on the pure Fig Widow. I'd best be quiet now as I'm starting to sound like an advert, so I'll just say... enjoy! Probably not helped much, but I hope I've instilled some enthusiasm for germing those babies." FunBoy

I have a question as well… What would make the F2s less desirable than F1s? Man, I grew out the Fig Widow F2s that I bought on the auction ($153.00) and its the absolute best weed I have ever smoked. I was looking at the Apollo 13 and am tempted to bid on them ... but is there a problem with them being F2s? If its just a matter of uniformity, well ... one can certainly work with that. I think its worth the price to get a great strain. With cuttings and a mother plant, it can serve you for a long time. Just my thoughts. Peace, ViRedd (CW Moderator)

You are one lucky guy ... I'm having an on-going love affair with the straight Fig Widow. I came real close to bidding on those GFWs but I am all set for seeds for awhile. Anyway, if the cross you bought is anything like the straight FW, you are in for a real treat. These babies have such beautiful branching characteristics... no pruning necessary. The buds cure to a nice brick red and the high is VERY nice. No paranoia at all and yet, you are completly wasted. I've found the high from the FW to be clear and not trippy in a confusing way. Its like you are always in control, but man ... you feel so good. Makes my body glow all over. Also, be sure to try revegging ... I have a beautiful FW in reveg right now and its like a bush with bud sites all over it. Good plant for cloning too. I use a good potting soil mixed with perlite and use very little ferts all the way through the vegging cycle. I would be very interested in hearing your progress with the GFW, it would be interesting, and fun, to compare notes. Right now, I have two FWs in reveg, one of which is going to be a monster, and two FW clones going. I'll be going 12/12 on these in another week after I take more clones off of the best revegging plant. Hope this helps. ViRedd (CW Moderator)

Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you guys and hopefully they will grow out like my Fig Widows from Dutch Flowers. Just imagine long, perfectly formed branches of solid, beautiful bud, each branch almost exactly the same length. And then, that big fat cola in the middle covered with red hairs. Cured, it has the best "bag appeal" I've ever seen. Honest, when I harvested them, I had a house guest from Oregon. He and I have been smoking weed together for over 25 years he was just amazed by the FW. Hey, I felt like a real pro grower great for the ego. And all I did is just let the darned things grow. I have topped both my clones this time, and I can tell you guys, they are growing out just like their Mom, only they will have TWO big fat colas each. ViRedd Yep ... that's the FW genetics. See those nice red hairs? Man, the buds are nice and tight and soooo beautiful. You just wait, you are in for a real treat. I'm thinking of buying a digital camera so I can post pics of my next harvest, which will be toward the middle of September. By the way, I let my FW flower for 50 days and harvested then as suggested on the memo at the auction. I contacted the breeder to compliment him on such a great strain. He told me to let them go for 70 days this time and I would get a much larger yield without much change in the high. He said that during the last week, bud growth is just awesome. Just a heads up for you. Also, he is going to release a new cross on Cbay ... FW x C99 ... I think I'll try to get some of those. Should be a real good cross, don't you think? ViRedd (CW Moderator)

I overdosed on the Fig Widow last night. After I smoked, I went for a walk through the neighborhood. It was a cloudy, moonlit night, with the moon backlighting the clouds. As I looked at the clouds, they turned into puffy little teddy bears. The rest of the walk was like a hike on Mars. I have one neighbor who has a large cactus garden in her front yard. Last night the cactus became little cartoon characters, what a trip that was. The high became so intense for awhile, that I had a hard time keeping my balance but at the same time, everything was under control. Ummm ... this is my kind of weed. Sorry to hear of your bad luck with the FW. What is your favorite strain for your personal smoke? I suspect that some would prefer the more confusing type of trippy high from that of the FW. For me, I like a smooth, clear experience with no paranoia. But then, I guess that's why they make Chevies and Fords ... we all have a choice in the matter. ViRedd (CW Moderator)

I grew out several rounds of Dutch Flowers' Fig Widow that I got from the auction almost two years ago. I think I paid $135 US for the beans. The growth pattern was most impressive, with long branches, covered with tight bud. They required almost no trimming at harvest, just long, tasty colas. They cured to a beautiful red color ... the bag appeal was great. As far as potency was concerned, it was lacking in comparason with something like the "one hitter" AK-47 or Ledgend's Ultimate Indica (that one will REALLY put you down). I think that was Fet's problem with the Fig Widow as well, (correct me if I'm wrong here, Fet). The high was really nice though, very spacey and great for listening to music. It just took four or five big bong hits to get there though. I grew out only one FW during my last grow, and I must say ... THAT girl really surprised me with her potency. FINALLY, I got one that was to my liking in every respect ... looks, taste and potency. I don't have any going right now and based upon that last girl, I wish I had some more going. I did breed a couple together, and have a couple of hundred beans from that union. Sooo ... in the future, I'll be growing some more. I think it would make a GREAT cross with the AK-47, to both improve the AK-47's growth structure, and to improve the Fig Widow's potency. Peace, Viredd (CW Moderator)

ViRedd, outstanding report! I loved Cindy! My cindy yielded well,and the smoke was as you stated. A perfect high. I do think that Fig Widow "pound for pound" is about the best I've had. It's a heavey yeilder! And Grimm White widow is also a High power strain. It's a serious resin monster. Thanks for the report Viredd. Peace, Beatnikcat

I have a Romberry mom crossed by a Fig Widow male, awsome cross too say the least. Favorable conditions bring 2 ounces killer smoke per plant, it is a Dutchflowers cross from the auction. Have a good one and enjoy. Willy

I had a picture of the Fig Widow and another male, excellent strain man. I got a bit too happy on the pollen with this current. The male FW looked soo good I gave it a shake with the ladies, maybe too much of a shake it seems. But it had a nice long top of flowers and nodes were getting shorter, so I think Ive got alot of VERY good hybrids, the female FW shows alot of branches and alot of sites but that got slowed with the shake of pollen, I kinda regret doing that now, but oh well at least they will be really nice hybrids from the MASSIVE yield genes the FW possess and that is easily seen just looking at the structure of the plant and how many “bud sites” are close together to cluster for long colas. So far bud smells like the sample I smoked and very white and sticky, its small but still should be very good and can't wait for them to mature. I have a vibe for another “BlueWidow breakthrough” of mine and this will be TWICE as good as the BW in smoke and characteristics. Dankmaster

Well its official! The FW has the most COMPLEX high I've ever had. Its very strong and UP, but the UP has ALOT OF POWER to it making FEEL heavy too, its like I have a CLEAR MIND but really stoned hard at the same time.When I look at this bud with 10x magnifier IT LOOKS exactly like the WW pictures in the center fold for the 95 cup! I actually thought there was nothing better than G13, well maybe not as strong but DEFINITELY much better quality of high, now it would be nice to give the G this KICK of UP in it, hopefully it has passed into the G13...WOW I am soo baked but its soo clear and soo strong. I can't comment on taste it hasn't cured but I can sense fruity sour there, it just needs to cure a bit more. THIS the strain of bud that ALL others will be measured by since its has the BEST of BOTH worlds! To be frank its the BEST damm thing I've ever had than any seed strain bought in a bank, other grower/breeders and even proven clones! Anyway just though I'd share my thoughts and the SEED plant is pretty much LIKE the sample I got sent that was done from the cutting I have. Hard core lovers will die for this one. I hardly doubt ANYONE would turn their nose up at this, thats how good the high I am feeling is right now! Dankmaster

Yea Air, it did sent me to the hospital... But G13 doesn't have good structure or character in the strain nor does it really have that great of a taste. The FW is very complex, like I was told. VERY POWERFUL UP TO IT (those that have a special Cali O, THIS is TWICE the potency in the UP than Cali O)Thats WHY I bred the FW to the G13! I hope this gives the G13 a mega boost in yeild and some FLAVOR! HAZE isn't like THIS! I will admit Haze is very strong and UP but this has ALOT MORE POWER to the UP than HAZE. It must be the FIG SKUNK in it! So yea nothing STRONGER than the G13, but a G13 x FW hybrid will blow Mrs. Pure Pain in my ass away! Then it will be a GREAT G13 hybrid. You will see. Those that grew BW found out I was right! I feel the same for this and G13 is NOT the stinkin Blueberry poopoo! Dankmaster

The FW grows like no other plant I've seen before and branches NATURALLY without pruning or topping, very close node structure, strong stems. Its leaf is like a Skunk. I normally don't like skunk bud, but this is the one exception. It must be because special types of skunk are great while most aren't that great. If you have grown BW before it acts alot like BW in bud characteristics, BOULDER density, SOLID coating of white glands, VERY LOW leaf to calyx ratio. When the plant buds it goes into more branching and nodes get shorter and from each nodes form a WHOLE new main TOP, which is HOW it yields like it can in the picture. She is very easy to root and clone, I had no problems at all with that. Umm what else can I say there is NO STINK! It's quick to bud like G13. IMHO it's a very IDEAL plant to grow and will satisfy the picky snob of connoisseur. Does that give you an idea. Dankmaster

The Fig Widow is a 50-60 day strain depending on your setup. I know because I am the breeder. Dankmaster's G13 x FW will more than likely be ready in 45-55 days. Mota

Dankmaster, what about my White Skunk have you given her try? She has somewhat of a different high, very up. She would also be an excellent cross for the G13. Around here the Sativa high of the White Skunk is favored over the Indica high of the Fig Widow. Just a thought. Mota

I have not grown the strains I have bred with the exception of the White Skunk which I just recently grew as a favor to a friend. I did breed the FW, and can tell you the characteristics of her parents. I can tell you that the FW is very vigorous and is probably a good first time grow. Take a look at the web site, that was the grower's first attempt indoors. She is very hardy and can take the punishment of an not so experience grower. Is she the best strain I have? It depends what kind of “high” you're looking for. Personally I like Sativa highs, so having smoked both the FW and White Skunk, I vote for the White Skunk. The Fig Widow's high/stone is complex, it all depends on your mood. If you're up, it will keep you there and raise you a level. If you're down... its going to knock your body out, but your mind will be awake. Maybe Dankmaster can explain his experience. Mota

The Fig Skunk had a high similar to Skunk #1. The White Skunk's yields are similar to the Fig Widow, 6-8 oz per 400w HPS, depending on your setup. Cannot go into details regarding my White Widow seeds, but they are legit. Mota

I consider your Fig Widow very UP with strength in it. Oh yea don't think for one minute I forgot about White Skunk or the WW, they both look very nice. I will be trying the White Skunk and WW too, a few clones of each mixed with other strains. The mom looks very nice I'm happy to have her too, so I can't wait to tell ya how kick ass that one is too, which I know it will be! Then I can rave about that one. Dankmaster

It's a shame I don't have enough of these F2 FW's. I've smoked THAT one down to every leaf, calyx and hair there is. I have to say smokin' the FW gives NEW LIFE to gettin' high and it doesn't seem dull and boring. G13 is heavy yea, but it can get dull after awhile. This is what I am hoping for is a rejuvenated potent kick in the hybrid that will make a G13 the really powerful, but very fun to experience...than a heavy knock-out that does get dull... so far all seedlings are staying very short with very fat and wide blades showing that WW side to the G13 and makes them more round than straight, the shoots seem very odd, but the leaves unfold right, so that's a very weird to me, anyway I think my theory holds true so far... my burnt little memory seems to recall BW starting really short like this, so it looks like its gonna turn out great. Maybe what I will work on next is crossing a heavy yeilder with nice flavor back to the G13 to keep its powerful heavy high, but with great yield and a nice flavor... it would be nice to keep crossing back until the G13 is pure once again with all the improvements in traits and chrarestics and will be a new and improved seedline of straight G13! (maybe IF I ever get bigger space) But I know G13 has the ability to become NO EQUAL with all the right improvements and would become more popular than “Northern Lights” with those improvements. The G13 has amazing features in some areas, but lacks alot of chracter as it has been said, but I know if that character can be fixed then it would be the most popular indoor strain to grow with getting really strong potency that no other plant has! It's not the best the way it is now, but an improved G13 would be the most fantastic thing the cannabis world has ever seen and should be the strongest you can get and nothing would really out do the new breed....oh hell I am just babbling about a dream I have. Dankmaster

OK well at 42 days I HAD to cut since necrosis is starting to effect smaller leaves in the bud, it could have gone longer but they were lookin almost done but I didn't want to chance more color loss. It has alot to do with my water and 3 yrs ago its was 8.0, its now 8.9 with a 350 ppm but I can't get a RO filter hooked up because this place isn't designed to support one..I only wish! Well I ve to say FW can probably beat big bud in size, some the lower branching that stretched up formed some of biggest side buds that are small colas them selves. I am KICKING my self for not topping and I could have had 3 times the amount I do now and what I have now is ALOT compared to the strain I put it up against and that is the 20 yr CO strain. FW's smallest cola beat the CO's largest and fattest cola that was bent down to down to expose the sites. The CO I know is heavy, but FW is a FREAK of weight. The kong hype BA! This is the real KONG type of genes in this strain, these buds blow up like air was pumped into them after about 4 weeks. These colas have the WW apperance of resin on them and it is GOOD like WW has been shown. OK so your wondering about the smells and flavor, well I did 100% oragnics FF and PB combo with Maxi Crop and the results are PEANUT BUTTER! The FW that I tried is NOT the same results as mine, I admit it was really good, but my flavor results blow that way and is alot better than I thought, anyway yes thats the smell too. VERY STRANGE but I think thats awsome. The high is soo strong and clear, I haven't done much coasting but the clear side of it has POWER and that seems to lack in alot of sativas I ve tried. It is truly an amazing strain to have and that I plan on (hint, hint,) but I will change its name to Peanut buds hehehe. The GFW is STILL going and getting very fat, these clearly are gonna be some of the largest G13 hybrid buds grown and it has that SAME resin look of the FW, I knew these genes would cross over well into the G13 and truly make it a masterpiece to have. I will let this one go for as long as I see pilling it on more, I guess we don't exactly have G13 time, but the yeild compensation makes up for that and these extra days after about 32 kept getting FATTER and blowing up like the FW. It was nice to see both plants behavior to see the chrarestics that were passed into the G13. I will take some more pics tommrow of it. You will see that it has blown up, the calyx size is quite large and there is very very little leaf, even less than FW has. I think this plant should yeild me an easy 2 oz's or more, it will be intresting to see how much off a less than 2.5 ft tall, this strain in definetly for the micro grower and those that don't have much height. Very full and dense low amount of size leaves to the bud. I think growers everywhere have dreamed of a small short, thick, heavy, big, crytally, heavy potentcy plant and thats EASY to clone and grow, I think I m the one thats done it!.. Dankmaster

Judging from my GFW's I'd say youre right. I'm getting the same results. Plus I had 100% germination and 11 of 14 were females. No hermies. It kept up with the sensi star in growth and passed the Sweet skunk. The Sensi Star was planted 2 weeks before the GFW, the Sweet Skunk 1 week. Have you tried Sensi Star? I think it would be a good cross with the G13. Thanks again for an excellent strain. Raydavies

I wonder where JoJo got his bluewidow from as well. I ran NCGA's BW way back (blueberry x 98 Aloha WW) and it def fit his description.

Probably the same place I got mine... Joey Weed. I still have a full pack, so hopefully that will be back soon too

 

[JACKBAYBEH]

Here's my top 5 (#1 is out of a sense of obligation)

Vietnamese Black F2
Malawi x White Russian
'98 Aloha White Widow x Blowfish
Fig Widow x Haze/Skunk
Mothers Finest

Looks about right to me man. I'd probably replace mother's finest with that TW/Cambo cross depending on who did them. But that's just my taste. The Malawi x White Russian could be stellar. And, yeah, the VietnameseBlack F2 would have to be top priority for anyone, no doubt.
Can't wait to follow along on these grows brother. Really interested to see what you come up with.

 

[Katsu]

DF did the Durban Fig Widow - it was a cross of Durban Thai and Mota's Fig Widow. That's how I got DF in my head - it's actually Motarebel's gear

 

[resinryder]

Here's my top 5 (#1 is out of a sense of obligation)

Vietnamese Black F2
Malawi x White Russian
'98 Aloha White Widow x Blowfish
Fig Widow x Haze/Skunk
Mothers Finest

Nice selection. I imagine it would be quite the quandary to decide which ones one that list to start with. Good luck to ya.
Also, it's great to see some of the older members that are showing up and all the older info that is being posted up. Great to see strain info that would otherwise be lost in the attic of the Internet somewhere.

 

[stoney917]

N I thought I had issues on what I was gonna pop ...... I haven't heard blowfish in yrs.... N shit what I would give for some viet pollen... Still got a Viet black mom around from a friend she don't get ran at all currently do to practicality but I never let her go... Gonna chop her up n toss her in flower soon...

 

[FireIn.TheSky]

Hazeman had blow fish regular seeds out for a while now. I actually really like the blowfish i grew.

 

[Dog Star]

Great gear,love Motarebel work...