Fire On High
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Hi guys. I'll start with an introduction.
I've been interested in growing for about 6 years now, I read a ton on overgrow and moved here after it was shut down. I've mostly been lurking this site, but now that I've actually got a system set up, I'd like to show it to everyone and ask for any and all advice. I'll probably just post in here when I'm bored, excited, or confused. That probably means frequently.
Myself and a friend have a setup, I think I'll probably just update both situations here, as it would be nice to talk about everything in the same thread. I'd like to stress that this is a learning grow. Its also supposed to be as inexpensive as possible. Maybe after this first run I'll upgrade some of my stuff but right now I simply cannot afford it. I intend for it to be a good time, not a huge money maker or a quest for the most top of the line smoke. That said, I'd love to do whatever I can to make sure I maximize my yield and quality.
For my setup, I'm growing in a 14"x32"x44 plywood box.
I've currently got 4 40w 2700k bulbs and I'm considering adding one or two more.
For my friend's, its two 30 gallon Rubbermaid containers stacked on top of each other. This design is almost completely influenced by Redgreenery's grow tubs. It includes a separately cooled light chamber and the option for a carbon scrubber on the top.
He'll be running 6 40w 2700k bulbs.
Right now I have one plant in flower. Its bagseed that I threw in some soil and left on my window sill for about 2 months as a houseplant. It was severely rootbound, malnourished, and suffered from a low light situation. I tossed it in my cab just to see what would happen while I looked around for clones.
Consequently, I know its a sad plant, please dont let it reflect my overall ability. I'm quite informed, just inexperienced.
I think that what I'll do is get about 10 clones (maybe much more if I can get them), veg them in my friend's cab, and then take half to flower in mine, freeing up space for him to set the other half to flower in his cab.
We'll both likely do a sog or scrog grow, depending on availability. We'll also likely set up a veg chamber at his house. I'd really like to get this to be somewhat steady as we're both fairly heavy smokers.
Here are some pictures to get started. I'll finish with questions.
I took it from the windowsill and put it under 12/12 lighting about a week and a half ago. I'll just say 9/6.
I tied it down today (9/19)
Here you can see the space and how shallow the soil is.
In this picture you can see some of the fan leaves, the old yellow one, and some of the much healthier new growth. Also one of the flowers.
My friends closed up, lights off.
Lights on. Likely gonna attach light traps and carbon scrubber. Notice the fan on top pulling air out.
Interior shot and how it opens up.
This is the homemade cool tube. Air pushes across the bulbs and the heat from the lights stays away from the plants.
Its "no glare" Plexiglas over the bulbs.
Its set up for six bulbs, just three in there now though. Its also hanging below the top by about an inch, allowing air to escape from the top of the tubs to the scrubber.
Intake for the light cooling.
So now the questions...
Plants! How many do you guys recommend in each cab? This first grow might have to be limited to what can be found, but before they go to flower, I'm sure I'll take clones and set up a mother so i could potentially have as many flowering in these spaces as I want. What's optimal?
I imagine SOG or Scrog is really the best way to go, especially in the Rubbermaids. For the first time round I'll just do LST and SOG.
I plan to veg for roughly two weeks after roots take and then flower or maybe just decide by when they mostly fill the screen.
What type of soil should I go for? I've got a couple of bags of miracle grow (i know every real grower hates this stuff) but since I've got it, will it work? Is it worth paying for something different? What's a cheap alternative. I cant be spending 200 dollars on nutrients and advanced soils.
I was speaking with someone in chat yesterday and they suggested I go with lower wattage 6500k bulbs for the veg cycle. How important is this, how much wattage is good per square foot for the veg cycle. What about using one or two of each spectrum? Better?
Regarding my current plant. Any advice you've got is welcome. here are some of my concerns though. Is it rootbound? Will it be? I keep letting it get too close and burning leaves. How much damage is that doing and should I just cut the burnt parts off or leave them?
Are there any obvious nute deficiencies? All of the new growth looks to be a healthy darker green.
The Plexiglas I put over the bulbs is "no glare" its got a slightly brushed look and it does make a tiny bit of a shadow when placed between something and a light. Its designed for picture frames. Is this gonna kill any of the important light? The lady at home depot said no but her opinion doesn't mean much to me.
I know this is a noob question and super variable, but I cant help asking. With this size cab, and a fairly successful first grow, (with the usual hiccups) what kind of weight can I expect in each cab?
Anything else??
I'm really excited guys. I'm sure I'll make some edits and post with new questions here and there. I'll update with pictures as soon as we get a hold of some clones.
Cheers.
I've been interested in growing for about 6 years now, I read a ton on overgrow and moved here after it was shut down. I've mostly been lurking this site, but now that I've actually got a system set up, I'd like to show it to everyone and ask for any and all advice. I'll probably just post in here when I'm bored, excited, or confused. That probably means frequently.
Myself and a friend have a setup, I think I'll probably just update both situations here, as it would be nice to talk about everything in the same thread. I'd like to stress that this is a learning grow. Its also supposed to be as inexpensive as possible. Maybe after this first run I'll upgrade some of my stuff but right now I simply cannot afford it. I intend for it to be a good time, not a huge money maker or a quest for the most top of the line smoke. That said, I'd love to do whatever I can to make sure I maximize my yield and quality.
For my setup, I'm growing in a 14"x32"x44 plywood box.
I've currently got 4 40w 2700k bulbs and I'm considering adding one or two more.
For my friend's, its two 30 gallon Rubbermaid containers stacked on top of each other. This design is almost completely influenced by Redgreenery's grow tubs. It includes a separately cooled light chamber and the option for a carbon scrubber on the top.
He'll be running 6 40w 2700k bulbs.
Right now I have one plant in flower. Its bagseed that I threw in some soil and left on my window sill for about 2 months as a houseplant. It was severely rootbound, malnourished, and suffered from a low light situation. I tossed it in my cab just to see what would happen while I looked around for clones.
Consequently, I know its a sad plant, please dont let it reflect my overall ability. I'm quite informed, just inexperienced.
I think that what I'll do is get about 10 clones (maybe much more if I can get them), veg them in my friend's cab, and then take half to flower in mine, freeing up space for him to set the other half to flower in his cab.
We'll both likely do a sog or scrog grow, depending on availability. We'll also likely set up a veg chamber at his house. I'd really like to get this to be somewhat steady as we're both fairly heavy smokers.
Here are some pictures to get started. I'll finish with questions.
I took it from the windowsill and put it under 12/12 lighting about a week and a half ago. I'll just say 9/6.
I tied it down today (9/19)
Here you can see the space and how shallow the soil is.
In this picture you can see some of the fan leaves, the old yellow one, and some of the much healthier new growth. Also one of the flowers.
My friends closed up, lights off.
Lights on. Likely gonna attach light traps and carbon scrubber. Notice the fan on top pulling air out.
Interior shot and how it opens up.
This is the homemade cool tube. Air pushes across the bulbs and the heat from the lights stays away from the plants.
Its "no glare" Plexiglas over the bulbs.
Its set up for six bulbs, just three in there now though. Its also hanging below the top by about an inch, allowing air to escape from the top of the tubs to the scrubber.
Intake for the light cooling.
So now the questions...
Plants! How many do you guys recommend in each cab? This first grow might have to be limited to what can be found, but before they go to flower, I'm sure I'll take clones and set up a mother so i could potentially have as many flowering in these spaces as I want. What's optimal?
I imagine SOG or Scrog is really the best way to go, especially in the Rubbermaids. For the first time round I'll just do LST and SOG.
I plan to veg for roughly two weeks after roots take and then flower or maybe just decide by when they mostly fill the screen.
What type of soil should I go for? I've got a couple of bags of miracle grow (i know every real grower hates this stuff) but since I've got it, will it work? Is it worth paying for something different? What's a cheap alternative. I cant be spending 200 dollars on nutrients and advanced soils.
I was speaking with someone in chat yesterday and they suggested I go with lower wattage 6500k bulbs for the veg cycle. How important is this, how much wattage is good per square foot for the veg cycle. What about using one or two of each spectrum? Better?
Regarding my current plant. Any advice you've got is welcome. here are some of my concerns though. Is it rootbound? Will it be? I keep letting it get too close and burning leaves. How much damage is that doing and should I just cut the burnt parts off or leave them?
Are there any obvious nute deficiencies? All of the new growth looks to be a healthy darker green.
The Plexiglas I put over the bulbs is "no glare" its got a slightly brushed look and it does make a tiny bit of a shadow when placed between something and a light. Its designed for picture frames. Is this gonna kill any of the important light? The lady at home depot said no but her opinion doesn't mean much to me.
I know this is a noob question and super variable, but I cant help asking. With this size cab, and a fairly successful first grow, (with the usual hiccups) what kind of weight can I expect in each cab?
Anything else??
I'm really excited guys. I'm sure I'll make some edits and post with new questions here and there. I'll update with pictures as soon as we get a hold of some clones.
Cheers.
