dubbalicious
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thanks Delta9:smile:
Yeah, nutes drop the pH and your ladies are eating it faster than they're drinking the water.I have also been having issues with Floranova.
1 Bucket has 300 ppm of floranova (tap water going in and less than 100 ppm)
ph set to 5.5-5.7. pH seems to rise up pretty quickly.
i've been using flora nova bloom for six years as the only nutrient, additive, or enhancement my plants ever see. i use it throughout the plants life, including vegetative phase.
the only problem with it is that it is extremely thick and sludgy and almost impossible to mix completely by shaking. if it is not mixed completely each use it develops nutrient imbalances that can translate into nutrient deficiencies.
my solution to this is to dump a gallon into a 5 gal bucket and add 3 gals ro water to it. rinse the bottle well to get everything out of it. then a paint mixer attachment on a drill. funnel it back into 4 1 gal containers for ease of use. you will then have something very easy to mix with just a couple of shakes first.
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My pleasure.Thanks for the info hydro-soil. Any advice on ppm/ph for veg process?
Hi!, petemoss
I have been using fnb for six years exactly as I described. I grow large style trees that typically yield 9-10 ozs each. The plants are visually perfect with no spots, discoloration, or curling.
I think you are both right and wrong. Several years back I called gh tech support and they told me that at my 3 to 1 dilution it was ok to do this. If you look at my clear 1 gal storage containers they show two different colors of nutrient solution. This indicates that it is going back into a colloidal suspension, which is what it does in the original bottle between uses.
You know that most nutrient manufacturers use at least a 2 part product. This is to keep the calcium nitrate and the magnesium sulfate from interacting. Gh solved this problem by making flora nova a colloidal suspension to get it all in one bottle. The drawback is it has to be completely mixed immediately before each use.
I think the statement you saw about this was referring to dilution at plant use ppms. If you were to mix up a clear container of, say, 950ppm it would not separate, but stay in solution. That is apparently when the reaction between chemicals begins. And it is probably the biggest reason most nute suppliers are adamant about changing your reservoir often. But at the same time I know people who just do addbacks for the entire grow and get away with it.
I am, obviously, not diluting enough to cause any reactions. I keep fnb up to about 4 months like this before use with no issues. I keep it in a dark, cool closet to minimize light and heat reactions.
Nice to hear from you, petemoss, thanks for your input! You have voiced a valid concern.
Later, delta9nxs
Ok.... now that's going a bit far.GH told me that any kind of water, including RO water shouldn't be used for diluting.
It still changes the ph of the recipe, which is bad.
It is a gamble for sure.
For all the haters complaining about how thick FN is, GH HAD to make it this way to keep it a one part nute.
They use a new technology called suspension something (?) and this allows certain minerals to coexist in the same bottle with other minerals and not lock up.
If you don't like shaking then your only alternative is to go to a two part nute and keep the minerals separated before use. You could even go three part if you want but is mixing three parts really faster or easier then shaking?
Mix your quarts properly first then store in little bottles that are half full so you have plenty of headroom for shaking.
Ok.... now that's going a bit far.
This stuff is rock solid stable after 1:1 or 1:2 dilution so quit scaring people. Sheesh!
great thread guys..
so i am going to give the fng and fnb a try in my recirculating dwc and would just like to know what ppm shoulds i be aiming for during the veg stage and the flowering stage, i am using tap water which has a ppm of 300 and a ph of 7.. thanks.