Hombre del mont
Dr of Stupidity
Sorry to hear that things aren't so good brother.
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Calle‘s Minigrow - Soma‘s AH F2 - Flowerday 30
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oldmaninbc
Well-known member
Whatever issues are bothering you I hope you find some resolve soon. I have to agree with you about a calm state of mind, I'll take that over anxiety any day of the week. I recall rolling downhill backwards in my truck when my brakes failed, it was a calm state of mind that kept the worst from happening.Without my project I would stick to alcohol or womenbad times over here but I know how to be calm in a good more healthy way
Sometimes I really like my brain…
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Calle Minogue
Brother of the COB
Thank you Oldman and Hombre - Appreciate it!
I am still on fire overall but I took good decisions for myself to not to things I normally do if it’s a bad time! Was a bit busy with the box again today. Really don’t know what I am doing but I try to get perfect conditions.
3/5 of me uuhhm of the plants are really unhappy. Thought about a new start today or pop few more beans.. Or ask someone for cuttings xD
Today it was maximum 28 C and the plants became more droopy over the day..
Tommorow I will adjust the conditions and hope the plants will recover.
Peace
I am still on fire overall but I took good decisions for myself to not to things I normally do if it’s a bad time! Was a bit busy with the box again today. Really don’t know what I am doing but I try to get perfect conditions.
3/5 of me uuhhm of the plants are really unhappy. Thought about a new start today or pop few more beans.. Or ask someone for cuttings xD
Today it was maximum 28 C and the plants became more droopy over the day..
Tommorow I will adjust the conditions and hope the plants will recover.
Peace
Calle Minogue
Brother of the COB
It’s getting worse
Hombre del mont
Dr of Stupidity
Oh dear, that's not so good.
What are your temperatures, both day and night?
Ph of water/feed?
Are you feeding anything currently? If so, what ec?
What are your temperatures, both day and night?
Ph of water/feed?
Are you feeding anything currently? If so, what ec?
chilliwilli
Waterboy
The fridge is still functional? Maybe let it run for 15min/h when the lights are on.
revegeta666
Well-known member
They look overwatered to me @Calle Minogue. Those containers are quite big for the size of the plants making it more difficult to water the correct amount. What I do is to lift the pots every day and the day they seem a lot lighter, is the day I water the plants.
Also, how many watts is your led? They are stressed and are not going to tolerate a strong light in that state. Can you regulate the potency? If you can, I would turn the light way down. You have very little vertical space to play with, and young plants are too weak to have the led so close unless you dim the light. This is why I suggested you used CFLs or fluos, because then the plants could grow right up to a few cm off the light with no issues.
Edit - also looking at the pics, the position of the fans makes me think maybe air isn't being exchanged well enough at the level of the plants. It looks like your fans are at the level of the quantum board to move the cool it which isn't a bad idea but maybe I would place the fans lower aiming directly at the plants. I also don't see an air intake in the pics. Is there one?
Also, how many watts is your led? They are stressed and are not going to tolerate a strong light in that state. Can you regulate the potency? If you can, I would turn the light way down. You have very little vertical space to play with, and young plants are too weak to have the led so close unless you dim the light. This is why I suggested you used CFLs or fluos, because then the plants could grow right up to a few cm off the light with no issues.
Edit - also looking at the pics, the position of the fans makes me think maybe air isn't being exchanged well enough at the level of the plants. It looks like your fans are at the level of the quantum board to move the cool it which isn't a bad idea but maybe I would place the fans lower aiming directly at the plants. I also don't see an air intake in the pics. Is there one?
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Calle Minogue
Brother of the COB
The day with the drastic change was like the coldest ever since. I t was like maximum 28c.
In the night I have 15c air temps and the heating mat has 24c. So the soil has something in between ?!
Yesterday I taped few inhale holes and temp was between 30-31,9C.
I gave them only water. Don’t know the ph.
So from my Pont its overwatering like @revegeta666 mentioned paired with to cold conditions.
@chilliwilli Nice idea but the system is depleted and I am not suffering heat problems so much. The system can run few days alone now with constant conditions..
Yesterday morning vs today
Hope you guys doing well at your end!
revegeta666
Well-known member
Plants don't get droopy like that because if temperature issues.
Do you have a dedicated air intake? If you don't have one this would be limiting the airflow inside the fridge. Maybe overwatering is your main problem as you say, but having overwatered and humid air accumulating around the plants will make it more difficult for the plants to recover. I would personally make a hole at plant height for fresh air intake, on the opposite side of the extraction, so it makes a steady air current. I would double down on the fans, and point them directly towards the plants.
Edit - you can help them recover in the meantime, by opening the fridge door a few times a day, as many as you can, to ensure fresh air gets inside.
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Hi Calle,in general if you have 20°C in the night,around 25 °C through the day ,the plants will recover day after day...they stressed very much the past days and need their time...
And don't give water in the soil...
Make them bath
on the leaves...
This will help a lot because they love humidity on veg....
Please no nutrients or pesticides on this stage....and especially no chemicals!!!!
I hope this will help you!
And don't give water in the soil...
Make them bath
on the leaves...This will help a lot because they love humidity on veg....
Please no nutrients or pesticides on this stage....and especially no chemicals!!!!
I hope this will help you!
revegeta666
Well-known member
Careful don't be spraying water on plants that are overwatered. You want to lower the humidity to help them recover, not increase it. Vegging plants love high humidity when they are in good health. Plants that are droopy like that indicate there's a problem in the rootzone, probably roots rotting because they are not getting oxygen because of the lack of a dry period. Increase the airflow and keep a lower humidity until they recover or you might be getting worse issues. Like fungal attacks.
oldmaninbc
Well-known member
Hello Calle, I just use some cheap litmus paper for pH, it gives a good indication of PH. Place the strip of paper into the water, pull it out and in a minute it changes color. Compare the color to the chart. The water from my tap is PH7. Do you do any other gardening?
Hi Calle , really i can't understand so much stress....overwatering is almost impossible in this pots and this plants!!!
Your soil is new,fresh???
Please use fresh soil on new plants , especially indoors...
Maybe alot of watts for this room???
And this is almost impossible with leds...
Too much chemical nutrients???
You don't need them other than good organic soil!!!
What you understand about your plants?
You live with them...
Tell us your thoughts!
Otherwise as time passes your plants will become healthy again!!!
AND THE BEST ORGANIC PESTICIDE THAT WHERE I LIVE USED FROM ANCIENT TIMES AND GIVE ME HEALTH PLANTS SO MANY YEARS IS THIS...
For indoor and outdoor plants,not only cannabis...
Your soil is new,fresh???
Please use fresh soil on new plants , especially indoors...
Maybe alot of watts for this room???
And this is almost impossible with leds...
Too much chemical nutrients???
You don't need them other than good organic soil!!!
What you understand about your plants?
You live with them...
Tell us your thoughts!
Otherwise as time passes your plants will become healthy again!!!
AND THE BEST ORGANIC PESTICIDE THAT WHERE I LIVE USED FROM ANCIENT TIMES AND GIVE ME HEALTH PLANTS SO MANY YEARS IS THIS...
For indoor and outdoor plants,not only cannabis...
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Calle Minogue
Brother of the COB
Hey guys thanks for all ya love and taking care of me and my project!
I thought till yesterday that I was the guy who overwatered the plants.
I asked in parallel some people in a German Forum and they had first the same understanding as I and revegeta.
Overwatering or maybe to hot roots.
Honestly the roots looked amazing and the soil wasn’t that much wet as I thought.
Yesterday I checked my water.
Seems like a big Cal/mag disbalance and therefore I decided (impulsive as always and out of urgency because they looked so horrible) to dive them in tap water which was modified with some Magnesiumcitrate.
Either it will work or I will make anew start
I thought till yesterday that I was the guy who overwatered the plants.
I asked in parallel some people in a German Forum and they had first the same understanding as I and revegeta.
Overwatering or maybe to hot roots.
Honestly the roots looked amazing and the soil wasn’t that much wet as I thought.
Yesterday I checked my water.
Seems like a big Cal/mag disbalance and therefore I decided (impulsive as always and out of urgency because they looked so horrible) to dive them in tap water which was modified with some Magnesiumcitrate.
Either it will work or I will make anew start
Calle Minogue
Brother of the COB
Yeah I am doing a lot of gardening. Legal or illegal Never ever I saw plants like that xD Shrooms, veggies, eggs, I would say I am bounded to nature.
The soil is fresh and self mixed with worm castings and regional soil..
Never ever I saw plants like that xD Shrooms, veggies, eggs, I would say I am bounded to nature. The soil is fresh and self mixed with worm castings and regional soil..
Calle Minogue
Brother of the COB
What is that ? If I ask google it’s not so easy to find.
Hi Calle...soap is soap...green soap is soap that made 100% from olive oil...
I hope you can find it in your place...
Its 100% organic and safe in every use...
You can find it grinded... that's what you want ...its cheap and believe me its the best organic pesticide you can use for your plants... indoor and outdoor...
Its like you make bath...same for the plants...use it if you want every day...
No problem...i hope you will find it...
I think its easy nowadays...blast from the past....
If you find it tell me to give you the recipe!!!
Have a nice day!!!
I hope you can find it in your place...
Its 100% organic and safe in every use...
You can find it grinded... that's what you want ...its cheap and believe me its the best organic pesticide you can use for your plants... indoor and outdoor...
Its like you make bath...same for the plants...use it if you want every day...
No problem...i hope you will find it...
I think its easy nowadays...blast from the past....
If you find it tell me to give you the recipe!!!
Have a nice day!!!
Hasch
learning and laughing
Yeah, with you there broWithout my project I would stick to alcohol or women
Sometimes I really like my brain…
sometimes life seems difficult and disappointing.Congrats on making healthy choices!
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revegeta666
Well-known member
You didn't answer if you have a dedicated air intake. If you do, where is it located, and where is the extraction located?Hey guys thanks for all ya love and taking care of me and my project!
I thought till yesterday that I was the guy who overwatered the plants.
I asked in parallel some people in a German Forum and they had first the same understanding as I and revegeta.
Overwatering or maybe to hot roots.
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Honestly the roots looked amazing and the soil wasn’t that much wet as I thought.
Yesterday I checked my water.
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Seems like a big Cal/mag disbalance and therefore I decided (impulsive as always and out of urgency because they looked so horrible) to dive them in tap water which was modified with some Magnesiumcitrate.
Either it will work or I will make anew start
Also, a pH of 7.7 is high enough that plants will have difficulties uptaking some important micro nutrients.
Even if you don't have a pH meter, adding just 2-3 drops of vinegar or lemon juice in the water (per L) will bring pH down a notch and help them feed better. I still would buy a meter though.
I don't know how to interpret those concentration numbers but if there is a large amount of calcium in your water, your plants could be experiencing a blockage due to accumulation of salts. Can you drink your tap water? Or is it too "hard"? Again you could know if this is the cause, checking the runoff water with a cheap EC mete.r
