Calle‘s Minigrow - Soma‘s AH F2 - Flowerday 30

[Calle Minogue]

Hey Folks,


Seems like I am up for a small project last indoor attempt ist 2 decades ago since I am an OD only guy. But since I got gifted a few M39 F3 beans I thought it maybe make sense to have the possibilities to save the F3 as cuts! Everything starts with an idea

I have no idea what I need for light and Carbon filter etc.

My target is to hold some cuts of this years OD season.

I guess I will share the progress here and hope I can grab few advices. It’s early in the year so hopefully I can manage to have this box running till end of July


Roughly measured 40x40x70

 

[CocoNut 420]

Nice one, it depends on your climate, it's cool where I am so T5s or a 100/150w cfl would be my choice for lights.
In a warm climate led might be a better option?

You'll need some ventilation in it, I think 4" is ample.

I've got a little clone tent I use a 20w bathroom on small plug controller with options of thermostatic or cyclic.

 

[Calle Minogue]

Hey Bud,

Thanks for the answer can I flower with this lights as well ? I am asking for a friend the box should be ready to produce buds as well. Just for the case. Haha.

The room has like 14-20C during the year.

 

[CocoNut 420]

Yes that makes sense right enough, i've not had personal experience flowering with either but I've read/seen people using cfl's/T5s to good effect.

 

[Calle Minogue]

Thanks I have the first topic with the lights, I can browse a bit and will share my opinion here

As a carbon filter a small primaclima ?

 

[Calle Minogue]

Lüftungsset Mini 105 m3/h, 100mm, 64,95 €

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[CocoNut 420]

I would double check but I'm sure I recall prima klima being decent filters, does anyone have experience with them?

 

[revegeta666]

@Calle Minogue You can flower them with fluos or CFL but be sure the ones you buy have an appropriate spectrum for flowering. Most T5 I've seen are white/blue, 5000k and up. Those for flowering are more like 2000k-3000k and you can use those for veg as well.

 

[Calle Minogue]

Yeah thanks I will take this into consideration. @revegeta666 How much distance to the plants is required? With led and 20-30cm I guess it’s not a good idea xD

 

[revegeta666]

Yeah thanks I will take this into consideration. @revegeta666 How much distance to the plants is required? With led and 20-30cm I guess it’s not a good idea xD

One of the reasons fluos and cfl are so great, is the leaves can be almost touching the tubes and won't burn.
I think fluos are the best choice for your space. They do have downsides like the inferior production, and lack of electrical efficiency which converts into heat (although this is not a bad thing in winter).

 

[Calle Minogue]

Now I found this one.. was browsing a few micro grows….

Is not as cheap as I should plan it but… haha - dream big!

I will dig a little deeper now..

 

[chilliwilli]

Have you heard about fridge grow? A little pricey but looks interresting

www.fridgegrow.com

 

[Calle Minogue]

fridge grow

Yes I saw a video but with this co2 it’s a little to science for me. Haha.

I guess I should take this one.

https://bloomtech.de/BloomStar-FLUXshield-300

Any other advices to bench ?

 

[Calle Minogue]

Or this one ? I see difference in price but don’t know why xD

PHLIZON 1000W pl100LED Grow Light Dimmer Vollspektrum Zimmerpflanze Veg Flower D | eBay

We always keep unremitting effort to develop and study new products. Perfect for 2x4ft growing area, higher intensity in a Phlizon mylar grow tent. PHLIZON PL1000W LED Grow Lights for Indoor Plants Veg Flowers.

www.ebay.de

 

[chilliwilli]

For 40x40 you won't need more than 50w imo. How about 5 9w led bulbs without cover?
When i try to estimate how much w i need i always do some cross platform knowledge chucking and use the grower led calculator

https://growerch.github.io/led-calculator/

 

[Calle Minogue]

Yes I try to check a lot I am still looking for the best idea. I guess it’s better to buy 100w and use not the full power and have few watts left for worst case.

Or I buy money wise only 50 w and I have no other possibility as holding moms on a freezer xD

 

[Calle Minogue]

I need something really thin because of the heights 70 cm

 

[Ca++]

Each shelf there seems to contain refrigeration lines. Greenhouse gas under pressure. I would probably take that to the tip, where it can be disposed of properly. Which means capturing the gas.

Getting another with shelves that come out, shouldn't cost anything much. Or you could just buy a tent, which can be stored away between seasons. That might work better for height. Flowering with limited headroom isn't as easy as it looks. Some people find a 2 meter tall tent to be hard work. Using up half of that for the height of the pots, and the space between the light and plants. That is more space than an under counter box has. A flowered cutting could hit the roof of that.

 

[Hasch]

I think this one fits the bill:

BloomStar FLUXshield Habibi 150 - 50W Vollspektrum - Bloomtech, 99,90 €

Dimmbar und steckerfertig für Wuchs und Blüte

bloomtech.de

It has sufficient power to dim it down a little for the moms and is 3850 K, so also possible to flower under it.

In my experience Bloomtec provides good customer service and is available in Germany.
I find thats a big plus when compared to Phlizon.

Your exhaust system with the tiny inline fan seems like it would fit well for your project

This would be my choice for ventilation:

Caluma - Lüfter Set, 100 m³h kaufen

Caluma - Lüfter Set, 100 m³h

www.smilinggreen.de

You can also put the whole exhaust system outside of the freezer to save space inside...
Have it suck straight into the fan and then push through the carbon filter.

 

[Calle Minogue]

@Ca++ @Hasch

Thanks for your input - much appreciated!

I checked the habibi board and the support gave me also the advice. But if I take the 100w board I can also dimm the power and have the chance to increase the space if I want
The difference with 60€ between both boards seems bearable and I will win 2 cm in heights with the 100w board..

With the depletion of the system I checked a mate who has have a contact who can help me.

I don’t want to buy a tent primary due to stealth reasons and I guess the thermo management will be a lot better in the freezer or ?

I am tending to do it low cost but I don’t want to complain or buy twice.

Maybe I should do a bench calculation.

What else do I need ?