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richyrich

Out of the slime, finally.
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With all that quality control in that link, dispensaries got a lot to live up to. It can be done and it can be taken out of the overhead; the justification for black market prices.
 
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Blue Dot

With all that quality control in that link, dispensaries got a lot to live up to. It can be done and it can be taken out of the overhead; the justification for black market prices.

Agree 100%.

Living proof that it can be done, all other "explainations" and "excuses" are just nonsense.
 

ItsGrowTime

gets some
Veteran
With all that quality control in that link, dispensaries got a lot to live up to. It can be done and it can be taken out of the overhead; the justification for black market prices.

There's a small difference between an independent dispensary and a company that has a monopoly on an entire nation's government supplied medical cannabis. Can't really compare the two.
 
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Blue Dot

There's a small difference between an independent dispensary and a company that has a monopoly on an entire nation's government supplied medical cannabis. Can't really compare the two.

I disagree. The costs can be very comparable.

Lights are lights, nutes are nutes, etc.
 

richyrich

Out of the slime, finally.
Veteran
There's a small difference between an independent dispensary and a company that has a monopoly on an entire nation's government supplied medical cannabis. Can't really compare the two.

I agree that is true to a point. I was speaking generally. The small time dispensaries--like many in LA--that are sharing a pie and only getting crumbs for the most part; then yes. How about places in Oakland that have mad volume moving through and, basically, have their own little monopoly going on?
 

ItsGrowTime

gets some
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Gov't allowed and gov't sanctioned are too extremely different things. The legal costs are way different as well as the legal risks. Then you also are given gov't money for research. And gov't security against theft since it's basically gov't property being stolen. Etc etc...

The micro may be similar but the macro is way, way different.
 

johnnyla

Active member
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Unprecedented times are ahead. Everybody ready for a large profit cut on their dispensing and profit growing?


enjoy the mid grade mass produced herb at 8% thc. mass production will only produce the same quality herb as mass produced beer.

i smoke/drink micro brew. it's stronger, more flavorful, and more expensive.

sure they will make a ton of cash. so will everyone else. it's obvious there is a huge demand. once legal, many people will turn to herb instead of alcohol driving demand up. i hope the price does go down so everyone can enjoy cannabis.
 

johnnyla

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Dear admin can I please have a way to keep blue dot out of my threads?


for reals. the admin should also crosscheck to see if bluedot and some of the other prohibitionists aren't coming from the same ip address.

too many cops on here it's kind of a buzzkill. i'm sure they have their own prohibitionists forumns with pics of drug busts they jack to like porn. :joint::joint::joint:
 

johnnyla

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Well, here is why you two butt heads. Blue Dot has laid out his underlying position to his posts.

Pythagllio, I presume yours is pro- dispensary and profit. It is your resounding theme. In your quote above, I would like to add that it is my personal experience and knowledge that Blue Dot is correct and they are the rotten apples spoiling the bunch. That is why I pulled out years ago. I did not want to be thought of that way. Everyone gets the flack from the rotten apples. They flout the laws for personal greed. I do not care if they are providing a service, that is a fallacious argument to justify their greedy motives. It is technically illegal, and they put us many foot steps behind, instead of just waiting for things to evolve. Just look to LA City for an example. They have made things worse. They have not helped for the long run, that is for dams sure. Their interest is money in their pocket now. I know because I still see it with my own eyes going on.


richy is either blue dot or his cop buddy.

they ruin threads with their prohibitionist propaganda.

thanks for the links FreedomFighter

keep posting and caling them out. they have a hard on for pissing on our parades. Fuck The Police
 

johnnyla

Active member
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I disagree. The costs can be very comparable.

Lights are lights, nutes are nutes, etc.


your ignorence and stupidity do not even deserve rebuttal.

hey folks ya'll should stop arguing with bluedot, richie rich and other prohigitionists who ruin threads and troll and are against the movement.
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
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Pythagllio, I presume yours is pro- dispensary and profit. It is your resounding theme.

I am pro-supply. I'm sorry if you think that it can get done under the idiotic non-profit only volunteers no money involved tree hugging socialist model. You can claim that the 2% dastards are 'rotten apples' but so far the only proposed solution is to toss the baby out with the bath water. There is no inherent harm from a for profit system, and it is a mistake to believe that the dastards of which you complain won't be able to wreak just as much havoc under such a non-profit system. It is simply untrue that everyone who plays the capitalist game is an uncaring asshole. It's a false stereotype, as false as the stereotype that has all cannabis consumers doing nothing but watching tv and eating cheetos in Mom's basement. You guys concentrate on being arbiters of 'morality', that being your 'morality' as defined by you without regard to the opinions of others. That's really SOP for moralists though, so it's not surprising. I concentrate on the big picture. I'm just as pro-WAMM as I am pro-Richard Lee. How about if you tell me why you think Mr. Lee and WAMM can't coexist. Please notice that Barnes & Noble coexists with public libraries everywhere. Next please explain why WAMM isn't producing enough to take care of the medical needs of everyone in CA. I'm fine with that, and Mr. Lee can find other work, which I'm sure he would. But reality is that Mr. Lee gets medicine to a heckuva lot more people that need it than does WAMM. Just give me a solution that isn't pie in the sky rainbows and puppies nonsense that will allow WAMM or a similar organization to actually provide that which is needed and I'll come over to your side quickly. My position is that you're insistence on non-profit is misplaced, and does nothing whatever to promote the needs of patients. You won't weed out the 'bad apples' by fiat. They'll figure out a way to line their pockets, and I'd rather have them in the light of day than hiding in the shadows. There are ways of dealing with such people short of instituting a wholly discredited system of distribution.

What you people seem to miss is that people that are successful in business will be successful in business. Take Mr. Lee's dispensary away from him and he'll have another business making money soon enough.
 
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Blue Dot

Take Mr. Lee's dispensary away from him and he'll have another business making money soon enough.

The ONLY reason guys like Richard Lee and his ilk are successful is because they are dealing in an illegal (now quasi-legal) product.

It's not like he's a Harvard cum laude.
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
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As annoying as I find Blue Dot it is my preference that he should be allowed to post. There used to be a poster here named inflorescence (sp?) who seemed to share his PO and was banned and I disagreed with that too. Banning the annoying and those who disagree seems like to reduce this forum to nothing more than an insulated, self congratulatory circle jerk.
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
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The ONLY reason guys like Richard Lee and his ilk are successful is because they are dealing in an illegal (now quasi-legal) product.

It's not like he's a Harvard cum laude.

Is that how you rationalize the success of others, and explain your failure in life to yourself?

Yet another bold statement made by BD, with no basis in factual reality. The truth is not a welcome visitor in BD's world.
 
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Blue Dot

Is that how you rationalize the success of others, and explain your failure in life to yourself?

Yet another bold statement made by BD, with no basis in factual reality. The truth is not a welcome visitor in BD's world.


Also his location (Oakland), and timing.

You think he would be that successful in San Diego?

lol, Bonnie Dumanis would have him locked up for life.
 

Pythagllio

Patient Grower
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I do not argue that the end justify the means. Once again, you are falsely stating my position, but it's no surprise that you care nothing about the truth. You are presuming that the means are wrong in and of themselves, and it is my position that isn't true. There is absolutely nothing wrong with providing a service and making a profit doing it. You seem to think everyone agrees with your whacked out 'morality', and that you're the arbiter of right and wrong, when nothing could be further from the truth.

If Mr. Lee decided to go to San Diego, yes, I believe he would be successful. But I doubt he'd choose to go there in the current climate. Good choices are part of being a successful in business. But go ahead, keep spinning stuff according to your agenda, I'll keep correcting you.
 

richyrich

Out of the slime, finally.
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enjoy the mid grade mass produced herb at 8% thc. mass production will only produce the same quality herb as mass produced beer.

i smoke/drink micro brew. it's stronger, more flavorful, and more expensive.

sure they will make a ton of cash. so will everyone else. it's obvious there is a huge demand. once legal, many people will turn to herb instead of alcohol driving demand up. i hope the price does go down so everyone can enjoy cannabis.

If you could navigate this site and read my posts by clicking on my name you would find out I, also, "micro-brew." I won't be enjoying the mass MMJ. What type of position is that to take for the masses who have no supply now or cannot afford it? What is wrong with--actually 12% per the link-- for the masses? It will get the job done for relief of illness.
 

richyrich

Out of the slime, finally.
Veteran
richy is either blue dot or his cop buddy.

they ruin threads with their prohibitionist propaganda.

thanks for the links FreedomFighter

keep posting and caling them out. they have a hard on for pissing on our parades. Fuck The Police

Serious, you might want to lay off the sativas! I am assuming, of course. You are way to paranoid dude, especially, on a website, lol.

If you cannot handle differing opinions other then yours--once again, especially, on a website--I feel pitty for you.

Call me out, I asked for it in another thread. I will keep responding with my opinions from sound logic, analyzing the current statutes and case law, and coming from my pro-MMJ position.
 

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