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Yankee Grower
Bomb them with what? Did you turn the venting off when you had those 4 strips in there and wait about a week to use the strips again under the same conditions?
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Caution when using "Hot Shot No-Pest Strips."
- Thread starter Mr.Hades
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Just adding my 2 cents. Yes, nps is poison, so use your brain folks. I put one in bloom at the beginning to make sure the girls get a good clean start. 3 weeks later, due to high air flow, it is depleted, toss it, harvest 7 weeks later no worries - and I fucking eat my bud every week, for years. I toss the used ones into my clone closet, so the residual can keep that clear, no worries from my clones or seedlings, for years.
i aint a total moron and have been using nps for many years . this time the mites just are laughing at me
Oregongrow
Member
Do not eat no pest strips - I thought people should know that. Trying to keep people safe.
on the upside azamax is working on the stragglers
grandmaster B
Member
check the half life on the nps, and you will see that by the time your buds are dried and ready to smoke the chemicals are no longer, not to mention the chemicals are water soluble.
if your smart you use em in veg and first week flower. there nothing there at that point you would be smoking anyhow. buds form later and i dont smoke fan leaves. and i agree with the above too^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Pointswest
Member
It is strange why people would continue to use these known carcinogens and gamble on causing damage to the brain and central nervous system when other much less dangerous organic solutions achieve complete control without the exposure danger that these chemicals produce.
This is my main reason to grow my own, there are far too many growers calling themselves medical growers but still use this product.
Azamax, Spinosad, Neem oil and cake, and lavender teas are a few useful products that if used properly will give complete control and in many cases provide prevention before outbreaks occur. Denial of the present dangers of these strips is foolish ignorance.
PW
This is my main reason to grow my own, there are far too many growers calling themselves medical growers but still use this product.
Azamax, Spinosad, Neem oil and cake, and lavender teas are a few useful products that if used properly will give complete control and in many cases provide prevention before outbreaks occur. Denial of the present dangers of these strips is foolish ignorance.
PW
grandmaster B
Member
agreed not to use on flowering plants
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Do not use while driving
Do not use while driving
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Do not use while driving
so did you hit that or wasnt she kosher. you post that pic alot LOL
For your reading pleasure....
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxfaqs/tf.asp?id=596&tid=111
Highlights
Dichlorvos is an insecticide which is used to control insects primarily in storage areas and barns. It can affect the nervous system where it may cause nausea and vomiting, restlessness, sweating, and muscle tremors at high levels. Dichlorvos been found in at least 3 of the 1,430 National Priorities List sites identified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).
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What is dichlorvos?
Dichlorvos is an insecticide that is a dense colorless liquid. It has a sweetish smell and readily mixes with water. Dichlorvos used in pest control is diluted with other chemicals and used as a spray. It can also be incorporated into plastic that slowly releases the chemical.
Dichlorvos is used for insect control in food storage areas, green houses, and barns, and control of insects on livestock. It is not generally used on outdoor crops. Dichlorvos is sometimes used for insect control in workplaces and in the home. Veterinarians use it to control parasites on pets.
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What happens to dichlorvos when it enters the environment?
Dichlorvos enters the environment during its manufacture and use, from landfills, and from accidental spills during transport and leaks from storage containers.
It evaporates easily into the air, where it is broken down into less harmful chemicals.
It will dissolve in water, where microorganisms can break it down.
It takes about 24–36 hours for half of the chemical to be broken down in water.
Dichlorvos does not appear to accumulate in plants, fish, or animals.
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How might I be exposed to dichlorvos?
The general population is not likely to be exposed to dichlorvos.
It has been found on some fruits, vegetables, and grain, but washing and processing destroys the dichlorvos.
People who live near a hazardous waste site containing dichlorvos could be exposed by breathing contaminated air or touching contaminated soil.
Workers who manufacture the chemical or use it are likely to be exposed.
People whose homes have been sprayed with dichlorvos could be exposed by breathing contaminated air or touching surfaces where dichlorvos was applied.
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How can dichlorvos affect my health?
The major effect of dichlorvos is on the nervous system. Studies on people who were exposed to dichlorvos by breathing air in the workplace containing low levels of dichlorvos have not shown any harmful effects. Animal studies have shown that breathing high levels can cause nervous system effects.
Ingesting large doses may cause nausea and vomiting, restlessness, sweating, and muscle tremors, while very large doses may cause coma, inability to breathe, and death. Animal studies have also shown effects on the nervous system when animals drank water or ate food containing dichlorvos.
It is not known whether dichlorvos can affect reproduction or cause birth defects in people.
Animal studies have not reported effects on reproduction or birth defects when animals were exposed to dichlorvos.
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How likely is dichlorvos to cause cancer?
It is not known whether dichlorvos causes cancer in people. A study in rats and mice reported that rats had an increase in cancer of the pancreas and in leukemia, and female mice had an increase in stomach cancer after they were fed dichlorvos for 2 years.
The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) has determined that dichlorvos may reasonably be anticipated to be a carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has determined that dichlorvos is possibly carcinogenic to humans. The EPA has determined that dichlorvos is a probable human carcinogen.
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Is there a medical test to show whether I've been exposed to dichlorvos?
There is a general test that can be used to determine if you have been exposed to a group of insecticides, including dichlorvos. This test measures the activity of an enzyme called acetylcholinesterase in the blood. However, it does not specifically show exposure to dichlorvos.
Specific tests are available to identify dichlorvos or its breakdown products in your urine. These tests aren't available at most doctors' offices, but can be done at special laboratories that have the right equipment.
top
Has the federal government made recommendations to protect human health?
The EPA requires that spills or accidental releases into the environment of 10 pounds or more of dichlorvos be reported to the EPA.
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set a permissible exposure limit of 1 milligram dichlorvos per cubic meter of air (1mg/m3) for an 8-hour workday, 40 hour workweek.
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Glossary
Carcinogen: A substance with the ability to cause cancer.
CAS: Chemical Abstracts Service.
Ingest: To eat or drink something.
Insecticide: A substance that kills insects.
Leukemia: Cancer of the blood-forming organs.
Milligram (mg): One thousandth of a gram.
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References
Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR). 1997. Toxicological Profile for Dichlorvos. Atlanta, GA: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service.
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Where can I get more information?
If you have questions or concerns, please contact your community or state health or environmental quality department or:
For more information, contact:
Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry
Division of Toxicology and Environmental Medicine
1600 Clifton Road NE, Mailstop F-62
Atlanta, GA 30333
Phone: 1-800-CDC-INFO · 888-232-6348 (TTY)
Fax: 1-770-488-4178
Email: <a href="mailto:cdcinfo@cdc.gov">cdcinfo@cdc.gov
ATSDR can also tell you the location of occupational and environmental health clinics. These clinics specialize in recognizing, evaluating, and treating illnesses resulting from exposure to hazardous substances.
Information line and technical assistance:
Phone: 888-422-8737
FAX: (770)-488-4178
To order toxicological profiles, contact:
National Technical Information Service
5285 Port Royal Road
Springfield, VA 22161
Phone: 800-553-6847 or 703-605-6000
Disclaimer
All ATSDR Toxicological Profile, Public Health Statement and ToxFAQs PDF files are electronic conversions from paper copy or other electronic ASCII text files. This conversion may have resulted in character translation or format errors. Users are referred to the original paper copy of the toxicological profile for the official text, figures, and tables. Original paper copies can be obtained via the directions on the toxicological profile home page, which also contains other important information about the profiles.
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxfaqs/tf.asp?id=596&tid=111
Highlights
Dichlorvos is an insecticide which is used to control insects primarily in storage areas and barns. It can affect the nervous system where it may cause nausea and vomiting, restlessness, sweating, and muscle tremors at high levels. Dichlorvos been found in at least 3 of the 1,430 National Priorities List sites identified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).
top
What is dichlorvos?
Dichlorvos is an insecticide that is a dense colorless liquid. It has a sweetish smell and readily mixes with water. Dichlorvos used in pest control is diluted with other chemicals and used as a spray. It can also be incorporated into plastic that slowly releases the chemical.
Dichlorvos is used for insect control in food storage areas, green houses, and barns, and control of insects on livestock. It is not generally used on outdoor crops. Dichlorvos is sometimes used for insect control in workplaces and in the home. Veterinarians use it to control parasites on pets.
top
What happens to dichlorvos when it enters the environment?
Dichlorvos enters the environment during its manufacture and use, from landfills, and from accidental spills during transport and leaks from storage containers.
It evaporates easily into the air, where it is broken down into less harmful chemicals.
It will dissolve in water, where microorganisms can break it down.
It takes about 24–36 hours for half of the chemical to be broken down in water.
Dichlorvos does not appear to accumulate in plants, fish, or animals.
top
How might I be exposed to dichlorvos?
The general population is not likely to be exposed to dichlorvos.
It has been found on some fruits, vegetables, and grain, but washing and processing destroys the dichlorvos.
People who live near a hazardous waste site containing dichlorvos could be exposed by breathing contaminated air or touching contaminated soil.
Workers who manufacture the chemical or use it are likely to be exposed.
People whose homes have been sprayed with dichlorvos could be exposed by breathing contaminated air or touching surfaces where dichlorvos was applied.
top
How can dichlorvos affect my health?
The major effect of dichlorvos is on the nervous system. Studies on people who were exposed to dichlorvos by breathing air in the workplace containing low levels of dichlorvos have not shown any harmful effects. Animal studies have shown that breathing high levels can cause nervous system effects.
Ingesting large doses may cause nausea and vomiting, restlessness, sweating, and muscle tremors, while very large doses may cause coma, inability to breathe, and death. Animal studies have also shown effects on the nervous system when animals drank water or ate food containing dichlorvos.
It is not known whether dichlorvos can affect reproduction or cause birth defects in people.
Animal studies have not reported effects on reproduction or birth defects when animals were exposed to dichlorvos.
top
How likely is dichlorvos to cause cancer?
It is not known whether dichlorvos causes cancer in people. A study in rats and mice reported that rats had an increase in cancer of the pancreas and in leukemia, and female mice had an increase in stomach cancer after they were fed dichlorvos for 2 years.
The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) has determined that dichlorvos may reasonably be anticipated to be a carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has determined that dichlorvos is possibly carcinogenic to humans. The EPA has determined that dichlorvos is a probable human carcinogen.
top
Is there a medical test to show whether I've been exposed to dichlorvos?
There is a general test that can be used to determine if you have been exposed to a group of insecticides, including dichlorvos. This test measures the activity of an enzyme called acetylcholinesterase in the blood. However, it does not specifically show exposure to dichlorvos.
Specific tests are available to identify dichlorvos or its breakdown products in your urine. These tests aren't available at most doctors' offices, but can be done at special laboratories that have the right equipment.
top
Has the federal government made recommendations to protect human health?
The EPA requires that spills or accidental releases into the environment of 10 pounds or more of dichlorvos be reported to the EPA.
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set a permissible exposure limit of 1 milligram dichlorvos per cubic meter of air (1mg/m3) for an 8-hour workday, 40 hour workweek.
top
Glossary
Carcinogen: A substance with the ability to cause cancer.
CAS: Chemical Abstracts Service.
Ingest: To eat or drink something.
Insecticide: A substance that kills insects.
Leukemia: Cancer of the blood-forming organs.
Milligram (mg): One thousandth of a gram.
top
References
Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR). 1997. Toxicological Profile for Dichlorvos. Atlanta, GA: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service.
top
Where can I get more information?
If you have questions or concerns, please contact your community or state health or environmental quality department or:
For more information, contact:
Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry
Division of Toxicology and Environmental Medicine
1600 Clifton Road NE, Mailstop F-62
Atlanta, GA 30333
Phone: 1-800-CDC-INFO · 888-232-6348 (TTY)
Fax: 1-770-488-4178
Email: <a href="mailto:cdcinfo@cdc.gov">cdcinfo@cdc.gov
ATSDR can also tell you the location of occupational and environmental health clinics. These clinics specialize in recognizing, evaluating, and treating illnesses resulting from exposure to hazardous substances.
Information line and technical assistance:
Phone: 888-422-8737
FAX: (770)-488-4178
To order toxicological profiles, contact:
National Technical Information Service
5285 Port Royal Road
Springfield, VA 22161
Phone: 800-553-6847 or 703-605-6000
Disclaimer
All ATSDR Toxicological Profile, Public Health Statement and ToxFAQs PDF files are electronic conversions from paper copy or other electronic ASCII text files. This conversion may have resulted in character translation or format errors. Users are referred to the original paper copy of the toxicological profile for the official text, figures, and tables. Original paper copies can be obtained via the directions on the toxicological profile home page, which also contains other important information about the profiles.
sounds safe enough for me.
I break mine out only at nite when the exuast fan isn't running and hit em hard when I do.
I either tent the plants in plastic to concentrate the gas or if you have a very small room like a walkin closet or bathroom
then i would put 3-5 in there and knock em senseless the 1st time, just like antibiotics.
then put them back into the original foil lined package it came in and tape it shut, leaving them out constantly is wasting them and does things like create NPS resistant mites.
AladdinSane
Member
Do you drive? What comes out of your exhaust pipe, if not known carcinogens?
People use high-tech things, even when they contain certain known risks, based on risk/benefit analysis that is an unconscious and widespread behavior on the part of humans.
Which is to say, we will accept a certain level of risk, in return for a certain level of performance. This is commonplace human behavior, of the sort *you* practice every time you get into your car and fire up the engine.
From my viewpoint, I don't reckon my ancestors clawed their way out of the parasite and disease-infested primordial jungle, finally arriving in safe, hygenic, suburban Whitelandia, just so I could go back to mixing ground up animal parts and watering with poop soup.
I'll take the pest strips, the car, and the chemical fertilizers. Thank you very much...
