xOOx
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i lost a small jar of my favorite girl yesterday ;(
actually, it probably has been happening over the course of the last month - since that's the last time i pinched from that particular jar. when i went to pick out a bud the other day, surprise! white fuzzy looking matter on a few of the bud tips. this is the second time this has happened, but the last time it got my 1.5yr+ stash - it was already at the point of a dead baby bird appearance for the buds in that case. if you've ever seen a super molded bud -- then you know it! if you pick up one of the buds, a cloud of smoke spores that resemble baby power poof into the air - its pretty bad, so don't smoke it
i know that this isn't from improper drying/curing/storage. i really took the time to stay as clean as possible, since i was bitten by this last time. washing hands, using hand santizer and letting it completely dry before popping a jar and grabbing buds as quick as possible, and then shutting the lid. it still got in somehow. the buds have been in that particular jar 7 months, and no signs of mold at all. a spore must of gotten into the jar when opening it to pinch just last month. just your run of the mill random spores in the air, of which there are millions in the air at any given moment - and nothing you can do about it.
the problem is the buds my cut produces are very greasy/oily, even after dry/cure. they are probably more succeptible to mold because of this. i opened another stash jar at the same 7 month cure state, 1st open since being shut 7 months ago, and broke a few buds up, no visible mold. they feel like breaking up a slightly moistened cotton balls, that's how juicy it is. most would probably think its still wet, even though it is NOT wet, it just feels wet. i guess this type of bud composition is the perfect place for an airbourne bread mold or random spore to fly in/land and make a home.
since most would probably smoke a harvest up so quickly, there is no time for this to happen, or for a spore colony to get a foothold on your buds. i'm worried that maybe a spore may have flown in when i popped the good jar the other day, and its days are number'd now.
well, i was a little high last night, and pondering some things.
if cannabis was ever to become 100% legal and sold by corporations, it would need some kind of preservative to extend its shelf life. and organic 6-7 month shelf life is just not acceptable. this is where i'm getting at in this post.
now we're not talkin cancer causing BHA or BHT preservative agents. and i know for sure some people would have a problem with this post, since it's altering cannabis chemical nature. but one thing tobacco companies have been known to use is potassium sorbate. you can buy this in a white powder form, and its cheap. i was wondering if maybe you could mix it with purified water maybe 1:10, 2:10, 3:10 ratio or more, and spray it on your hanging buds. lets say on day 6-7 of the hang dry process, and then let it dry an additional 3 or so days, then start the curing process like normal.
"Potassium sorbate (PS) may be incorporated in blended cigarette tobacco either as a mold growth inhibitor in processed tobacco sheet material, or as a preservative in flavor systems or paper adhesives."
there have been studies to show that PS has a very low toxicity. it also retards bacteria. even when smoked it does not alter taste or flavor. it does not vaporize at burning temperatures, so you really aren't inhaling it into your lungs, or if any does go in -- its non toxic.
there are many other chemical preservatives around, and its in all the things we smoke, eat, and drink everyday, so i'm not afraid to try one. i just don't want it to ruin the buds in experimentation if anyone has any knowledge.
vaccum seal/freezing buds is not an option for me. i keep my stuff locked up in safes, theres no way i'd leave them in an open freezer to be found.
does anyone have any knowledge in the area of professional bud preservatives? any other possible candidate preservative chemicals which have a very low toxicity..especially when burned, and do not become altered when burned or cooked?
reference:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...serid=10&md5=ff15c5b92ba40946b1ec6a37f903f3ff
how about sodium benzoate?
any process for sterilizing buds prior to long term storage? think about it this way, your buds are hanging in the air for 7-10 days, the air is full of floating spores, bacteria, you name it. some must be stuck to your buds for sure. it comes down to the matter if that particular strain composition is just the perfect environment to proliferate on. it would explain why some strains have a longer shelf life then others too.
comments?
xoox
actually, it probably has been happening over the course of the last month - since that's the last time i pinched from that particular jar. when i went to pick out a bud the other day, surprise! white fuzzy looking matter on a few of the bud tips. this is the second time this has happened, but the last time it got my 1.5yr+ stash - it was already at the point of a dead baby bird appearance for the buds in that case. if you've ever seen a super molded bud -- then you know it! if you pick up one of the buds, a cloud of smoke spores that resemble baby power poof into the air - its pretty bad, so don't smoke it
i know that this isn't from improper drying/curing/storage. i really took the time to stay as clean as possible, since i was bitten by this last time. washing hands, using hand santizer and letting it completely dry before popping a jar and grabbing buds as quick as possible, and then shutting the lid. it still got in somehow. the buds have been in that particular jar 7 months, and no signs of mold at all. a spore must of gotten into the jar when opening it to pinch just last month. just your run of the mill random spores in the air, of which there are millions in the air at any given moment - and nothing you can do about it.
the problem is the buds my cut produces are very greasy/oily, even after dry/cure. they are probably more succeptible to mold because of this. i opened another stash jar at the same 7 month cure state, 1st open since being shut 7 months ago, and broke a few buds up, no visible mold. they feel like breaking up a slightly moistened cotton balls, that's how juicy it is. most would probably think its still wet, even though it is NOT wet, it just feels wet. i guess this type of bud composition is the perfect place for an airbourne bread mold or random spore to fly in/land and make a home.
since most would probably smoke a harvest up so quickly, there is no time for this to happen, or for a spore colony to get a foothold on your buds. i'm worried that maybe a spore may have flown in when i popped the good jar the other day, and its days are number'd now.
well, i was a little high last night, and pondering some things.
if cannabis was ever to become 100% legal and sold by corporations, it would need some kind of preservative to extend its shelf life. and organic 6-7 month shelf life is just not acceptable. this is where i'm getting at in this post.
now we're not talkin cancer causing BHA or BHT preservative agents. and i know for sure some people would have a problem with this post, since it's altering cannabis chemical nature. but one thing tobacco companies have been known to use is potassium sorbate. you can buy this in a white powder form, and its cheap. i was wondering if maybe you could mix it with purified water maybe 1:10, 2:10, 3:10 ratio or more, and spray it on your hanging buds. lets say on day 6-7 of the hang dry process, and then let it dry an additional 3 or so days, then start the curing process like normal.
"Potassium sorbate (PS) may be incorporated in blended cigarette tobacco either as a mold growth inhibitor in processed tobacco sheet material, or as a preservative in flavor systems or paper adhesives."
there have been studies to show that PS has a very low toxicity. it also retards bacteria. even when smoked it does not alter taste or flavor. it does not vaporize at burning temperatures, so you really aren't inhaling it into your lungs, or if any does go in -- its non toxic.
there are many other chemical preservatives around, and its in all the things we smoke, eat, and drink everyday, so i'm not afraid to try one. i just don't want it to ruin the buds in experimentation if anyone has any knowledge.
vaccum seal/freezing buds is not an option for me. i keep my stuff locked up in safes, theres no way i'd leave them in an open freezer to be found.
does anyone have any knowledge in the area of professional bud preservatives? any other possible candidate preservative chemicals which have a very low toxicity..especially when burned, and do not become altered when burned or cooked?
reference:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...serid=10&md5=ff15c5b92ba40946b1ec6a37f903f3ff
how about sodium benzoate?
any process for sterilizing buds prior to long term storage? think about it this way, your buds are hanging in the air for 7-10 days, the air is full of floating spores, bacteria, you name it. some must be stuck to your buds for sure. it comes down to the matter if that particular strain composition is just the perfect environment to proliferate on. it would explain why some strains have a longer shelf life then others too.
comments?
xoox
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