nycdfan042 said:.and i think your a pussy wanna be american bitch if you drink anything less than coors, or miller lite.
But the problem is then the person, not the substance...southflorida said:if done in moderation....that is the main point....but as we know...few people can do something in moderation
where all the problems arise....problems with alcohol, tobacco, food, cannabis, drugs, etc....etc....etc
Who owns Coors?Bacchus said:Sam Adams is now the LARGEST American brewer....
And yes, try them all. So many good beers and ales out there for the American consumer.
Grat3fulh3ad said:I don't know that I've ever had a good belgian beer, however...
Grat3fulh3ad said:I don't know that I've ever had a good belgian beer, however...
nycdfan042 said:OH MY GOD!! what are red knecks across america going to do?? Here they go workin in the factory and now they got the balls to fuck with their beer? Im sure everyone would have no problems ditching their american budweiser and switching it for a nice belgian recipe. I personally like yuengling...and i think your a pussy wanna be american bitch if you drink anything less than coors, or miller lite. Ive drank a stella artois and it tasted like european PISS...id rather drink natty ice which is what most real AMERICANS will be drinking once those fruity belgians take over budweiser!! Here is another piece of america selling out to a global market...pretty soon american will have a small TM next to it all APPLE PIES will be made in france from now on too
I have 30 years experience in the beer and wine sales industry, including Budweiser, and I think Chamba has a close to correct observation. Todays Bud and Bud Light are developed with drinkability and taste for the widest market in mind. They were never trying to capture small segments of quality beer consumers like many of us posting here. Millions were spent on taste testing and product developement, but also millions on advertising. If you have ever seen the time and money spent on one TV commercial you would find it hard to believe that there was any left over for developing a quality product.....but they were very commited to quality ingrediants and above average brewing standards. Of all the beverage products I sold Bud remained number one for just those reasons. Could you imagine growing a strain of Cannabis and enough of it for all of the consumers Bud has, then having them all satisfied at the end of the day? It's takes a great commitment and great company. Nice thread and good conversation everyone....DDChamba said:"yuengling"...lol that sounds just like a Chinese name
while Bud is not one of my fave beers, I've actually drank a few of them this year,,,Bud is a good choice for drinking on hot Summer days..or for fast guzzling....with it's medium alcohol content, sweet, light tasting, doesn't bloat you or sit heavy in your stomach, with big bubbles has a good burp co-efficient and so is ideal with fast food, bar-b-q's etc..drink it fast and cold in a tall glass.
Grat3fulh3ad said:Sorry... I've drunk plenty of beers in the US and abroad, and american budweiser, coors, and stella are all piss... Some of the best beers are european... A draught heineken in holland beats the hell out of the bottled stuff they serve us here... If you're a real beer drinker there are plenty of DAMN fine micro-brews from one end of the country(USA) to the other... Way more fullness of flavor than the majority of the corporate American beer market offers...
imho...
Rood Spook said:I give you Duvel,imo the champagne of all beers.8.5% of nectar from the gods,truly 1st class beer that happens to be Belgian.http://www.duvelusa.com/
Also,and not because I live next to em,theres the brewery Ommegang...http://www.ommegang.com/ very good belgian beers coming from these guys,there Hennepin is the shit,but all of there line is also quite good.
Whats Budweiser?????
BACKCOUNTRY said:A look over at Wikpedia revealed that Coors merged with the Canadian brewer Molsen several years back, still a North american owned company I guess, although Coors is now working in close cooperation with South African Breweries who now owns Miller, apparently in a effort to better compete with Anheiser-Busch.
So Sam Adams may now have the largest production of any US owned brewery...... if Miller hadn't bought Henery Weinhards several years back, it may have been, but Miller basicly ruined it the day they shut down brewing in Portland.