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ya no problem billyboy i flood every 3 hours when the lights are on and 1 when the lights are off i change my reses once a week i use A N nutes 3 part base at about a 1/4 streingth of what they say use i don't have a clue what the hell they could be thinkingbillyboy said:
their line burns the shit out of everythig i've used it on at 1/2 what the calculater says i can post you a link to a thread on another site where monkey a buddy of mine posted how to use AN nutes basicly you have to add a liitle base nutes check your ppms untill you hit the target then the samething with the adds
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Advanced nutrinets custom chart
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I posted our custom chart for any of u that need help using there nutes,This is what i use.and how i use it.
Start clones on 0.4-0.6EC/200-300ppm For 3-part use a 1-1-1 mix or Sensi Bloom A+B for the first 3-5 days after transplant then switch to a 3-2-1 mix or Sensi grow A+B as soon as new growth starts.
Vegetive range 0.6-1.4EC/300-700ppm
As plants grow increase the strength of the nutrient solution by 0.2EC each time, an increase every 5-7 days should be fine. Always make sure that the EC/ppm of the addatives you add doesn't exceed 1/2 of the total EC/ppm of the final mix (At least 1/2 to 2/3 of the total mix should be A+B nutrient). If needs be lower the concentration of the additives by adding water after they are all in the tank, then add the A+B or G-M-B to reach the target EC/ppm.
In veg use the Additives as follows:
Voodoo Juice: Start it at 0.5mls/1L and progress up to a max of 2-3mls per litre. Use 3 weeks on then 1 week off ( If doing a longer veg)
Barricade: Always add at the rate 1ml/10L
Fulvic: 1ml/1L
Humic: 1ml/1L
Sensi Zym: Start at 3mls/1L and progress to 5mls/1L
Carbo Load: Add 3mls/10L if using Voodoo juice (Dissolve in 1L of Hot water before adding to the tank)
B52: 1ml/1L
Piranha: 0.3g/1L (Use 3 weeks on and 1 week off if going longer in veg)
Tarantula: 0.3g/1L (Use 3 weeks on and 1 week off if going longer in veg)
Aim to have plants feeding at 1.2-1.4EC/600-700ppm bfore switching to 12/12.
Flowering range 1.2-2.1EC/600-1050ppm
Flowering formula for 8 weeks using Advanced Nutrients 2+ program.
Notes: Throughout the bloom period from weeks 1-8, Use these additives as follows:
Sensi Zym:-5mls/1L Carbo Load:-1mls/1L (Dissolve in 1L of hot water before adding to the tank)
Barricade:-1mls/10L (Dissolve in 1L of hot water before adding to tank)
Fulvic Acid:-1-2mls/1L (Always match Fulvic and Humic dosages)
Humic Acid:-1-2mls/1L (Always match Fulvic and Humic dosages)
B52-1-2mls/1L (Do not use in weeks 1+2 of bloom)
Mother Earth Bloom:-1-1.5mls/1L
Voodoo juice:-1.5mls/1L (use in weeks 1+2 of bloom only)
Tarantula:-0.3-0.6g/1L (use in weeks 1+2 of bloom only)
Piranha:-0.3-0.6g/L (use in weeks 1+2 of bloom only)
Bud Blood:-0.3-0.5g/1L (use in week 1 of bloom only)
Every water change flush pots thouroughly with fresh ph’ed water.
Note: If you feel that the plant you are working with needs a higher EC at any stage of the bloom period it is fine to increase the strength of the feed by rasing the amount of A+B or G-M-B that you add to the mix, BUT ensure that all the other additives especially Big Bud and Overdrive are kept at the levels stated. Never exceed a total EC/ppm of 2.1EC/1050ppm.
Heavy Feeding:-
Week 1:-Add equal parts of sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B to reach 1.2EC/600ppm
Week 2:-Add equal parts of sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B to reach 1.2EC, then top off
with 0.1EC/50ppm of Big Bud to reach 1.3EC/650ppm (You need 0.1EC or 50ppm of Big Bud this week)
Week3:-Add equal parts of sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B to reach 1.2EC/600ppm,
then top off with 0.2EC/100ppm of Big Bud until a reading of 1.4EC/700ppm is reached (You need 0.2EC or 100ppm of Big Bud this week)
Week4:-Add equal parts of sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B to reach 1.2EC/600ppm then top off with Big Bud until a reading of 1.6EC/800ppm is reached. (0.4EC or 200ppm of Big Bud)
Week5 (Peak strength):-Add equal parts of sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B to reach 1.2EC/600ppm then top off with Big Bud until a reading of 1.8EC/900ppm is reached. (0.6EC or 300ppm of Big bud)
Week6:-Add 3.0mls per litre of Overdrive, then top off with equal parts of Sensi Bloom A+B or G-M-B until a reading of 1.6EC/800ppm is reached. (0.5EC or 250ppm of Overdrive)
Week7:-Add 2.5mls per litre of Overdrive, then add equal parts of Sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B until a reading of 1.4EC/700ppm is reached. (0.4 or 200ppm of Overdrive)
Week8:-Drain tank of all nutrient solution, flush pots/growing medium thouroughly with water at the correct ph. Refill the tank with fresh water, add 2.5mls per litre of Final Phase, set the ph and run system/water pots with this solution for 10 days. If using a recirculating system eg Drip, Flood and drain, DWC (bubbling buckets) etc make sure that you change this flush solution every 3 days during the 10 day period. This is because once the water has been running round the system for 2-3 days it picks up nutrients that are excreted from the plants roots, and then becomes a weak feed solution again, which is not ideal when trying to clear unwanted nutrients in the plant(s). By changing the solution every 3 days you are getting rid of these unwanted nutrients from the system, and forcing the plant to rid itself of excess.
Note* i use 0.1ec = 50ppm /1.0ec=500ppm / 2.0ec=1000ppm
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ok i cut and pasted this from another site i don't think they let me post the link but for all who wants it this chart works
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I posted our custom chart for any of u that need help using there nutes,This is what i use.and how i use it.
Start clones on 0.4-0.6EC/200-300ppm For 3-part use a 1-1-1 mix or Sensi Bloom A+B for the first 3-5 days after transplant then switch to a 3-2-1 mix or Sensi grow A+B as soon as new growth starts.
Vegetive range 0.6-1.4EC/300-700ppm
As plants grow increase the strength of the nutrient solution by 0.2EC each time, an increase every 5-7 days should be fine. Always make sure that the EC/ppm of the addatives you add doesn't exceed 1/2 of the total EC/ppm of the final mix (At least 1/2 to 2/3 of the total mix should be A+B nutrient). If needs be lower the concentration of the additives by adding water after they are all in the tank, then add the A+B or G-M-B to reach the target EC/ppm.
In veg use the Additives as follows:
Voodoo Juice: Start it at 0.5mls/1L and progress up to a max of 2-3mls per litre. Use 3 weeks on then 1 week off ( If doing a longer veg)
Barricade: Always add at the rate 1ml/10L
Fulvic: 1ml/1L
Humic: 1ml/1L
Sensi Zym: Start at 3mls/1L and progress to 5mls/1L
Carbo Load: Add 3mls/10L if using Voodoo juice (Dissolve in 1L of Hot water before adding to the tank)
B52: 1ml/1L
Piranha: 0.3g/1L (Use 3 weeks on and 1 week off if going longer in veg)
Tarantula: 0.3g/1L (Use 3 weeks on and 1 week off if going longer in veg)
Aim to have plants feeding at 1.2-1.4EC/600-700ppm bfore switching to 12/12.
Flowering range 1.2-2.1EC/600-1050ppm
Flowering formula for 8 weeks using Advanced Nutrients 2+ program.
Notes: Throughout the bloom period from weeks 1-8, Use these additives as follows:
Sensi Zym:-5mls/1L Carbo Load:-1mls/1L (Dissolve in 1L of hot water before adding to the tank)
Barricade:-1mls/10L (Dissolve in 1L of hot water before adding to tank)
Fulvic Acid:-1-2mls/1L (Always match Fulvic and Humic dosages)
Humic Acid:-1-2mls/1L (Always match Fulvic and Humic dosages)
B52-1-2mls/1L (Do not use in weeks 1+2 of bloom)
Mother Earth Bloom:-1-1.5mls/1L
Voodoo juice:-1.5mls/1L (use in weeks 1+2 of bloom only)
Tarantula:-0.3-0.6g/1L (use in weeks 1+2 of bloom only)
Piranha:-0.3-0.6g/L (use in weeks 1+2 of bloom only)
Bud Blood:-0.3-0.5g/1L (use in week 1 of bloom only)
Every water change flush pots thouroughly with fresh ph’ed water.
Note: If you feel that the plant you are working with needs a higher EC at any stage of the bloom period it is fine to increase the strength of the feed by rasing the amount of A+B or G-M-B that you add to the mix, BUT ensure that all the other additives especially Big Bud and Overdrive are kept at the levels stated. Never exceed a total EC/ppm of 2.1EC/1050ppm.
Heavy Feeding:-
Week 1:-Add equal parts of sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B to reach 1.2EC/600ppm
Week 2:-Add equal parts of sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B to reach 1.2EC, then top off
with 0.1EC/50ppm of Big Bud to reach 1.3EC/650ppm (You need 0.1EC or 50ppm of Big Bud this week)
Week3:-Add equal parts of sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B to reach 1.2EC/600ppm,
then top off with 0.2EC/100ppm of Big Bud until a reading of 1.4EC/700ppm is reached (You need 0.2EC or 100ppm of Big Bud this week)
Week4:-Add equal parts of sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B to reach 1.2EC/600ppm then top off with Big Bud until a reading of 1.6EC/800ppm is reached. (0.4EC or 200ppm of Big Bud)
Week5 (Peak strength):-Add equal parts of sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B to reach 1.2EC/600ppm then top off with Big Bud until a reading of 1.8EC/900ppm is reached. (0.6EC or 300ppm of Big bud)
Week6:-Add 3.0mls per litre of Overdrive, then top off with equal parts of Sensi Bloom A+B or G-M-B until a reading of 1.6EC/800ppm is reached. (0.5EC or 250ppm of Overdrive)
Week7:-Add 2.5mls per litre of Overdrive, then add equal parts of Sensi bloom A+B or G-M-B until a reading of 1.4EC/700ppm is reached. (0.4 or 200ppm of Overdrive)
Week8:-Drain tank of all nutrient solution, flush pots/growing medium thouroughly with water at the correct ph. Refill the tank with fresh water, add 2.5mls per litre of Final Phase, set the ph and run system/water pots with this solution for 10 days. If using a recirculating system eg Drip, Flood and drain, DWC (bubbling buckets) etc make sure that you change this flush solution every 3 days during the 10 day period. This is because once the water has been running round the system for 2-3 days it picks up nutrients that are excreted from the plants roots, and then becomes a weak feed solution again, which is not ideal when trying to clear unwanted nutrients in the plant(s). By changing the solution every 3 days you are getting rid of these unwanted nutrients from the system, and forcing the plant to rid itself of excess.
Note* i use 0.1ec = 50ppm /1.0ec=500ppm / 2.0ec=1000ppm
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ok i cut and pasted this from another site i don't think they let me post the link but for all who wants it this chart works
hazeywonder
Member
Hope your still around i have a question or two.
The room that I run is very similar. except that I keep each table full at 78per. I also am running a staggered starting and have a smaller veg area. the problem is that im using rapid rooters and cant find a solution to vegging.
I have a separate room but its not big enough to use the normal containers so at some point im going to have to transplant. Im interested to know what you used do to this before the ez-cloners.
The room that I run is very similar. except that I keep each table full at 78per. I also am running a staggered starting and have a smaller veg area. the problem is that im using rapid rooters and cant find a solution to vegging.
I have a separate room but its not big enough to use the normal containers so at some point im going to have to transplant. Im interested to know what you used do to this before the ez-cloners.
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yamaha_1fan
hazeywonder said:
Thats how I veg. Once I see roots they go in a cup. Currently I am out of room, so I am putting 2 rooted clones per cup. In this pic, I also cut the bottom out of the cloing tray (the one with the squares), used a second tray filled with hydroton and holes in the bottom. And I put it in my table. worked fine.
They stay in there for about 3-4 days, after the last rooted clone goes in. Then they go to the flower room
hazeywonder
Member
Well I think i solved my problem i went with 3 inch net pots and floated a layer of rocks then put the net pots in the tray then back filled around them.. So far so good i flooded it and everything seems to be working ok i just hope the roots arnt to tangled in 2 weeks...
I might have to try the cups next time a little cheaper...
I might have to try the cups next time a little cheaper...
smoke headies
Member
cabanetforester said:AND IT DAM WELL BETTER FOR THE PRICE! Anyway, yes I think it's not uncommon to leave cuttings to veg in the EZ after they root.
Stoney 419 impressive gardening there, nice setup. Thats a whole lota ladies too. Stones man. Awesome contribution.
I have done this simply because I didn't have a cabinet to veg them in at the time as it was occupied. They were in the EZ way too long and like 4-5 small plants in my 30 EZ made 1 big root mat in the bottom so I went ahead and flowered them in the cloner..
Not really, I had to cut the roots apart which I hated, but they turned out fine. It's all about environment. You want to keep a close eye after the roots hit the water.
Consider turning off the pump also, unless you want it to trim their roots so you don't have to
EZ with some rooted StrawD lower left and right. Probably 30 days since rooted. 1 trim on the roots, easy on the lights (t5's) tap water plus a pinch of LK and PBPG PPM's below 200 always (lower when rooting) 1 change out(no cleaning) and many top offs by this point. I would never expect good rooting with my EZ in this condition BTW. I always clean it well between runs.
That cut in the lower left is a freek too, explosive vigor when given more food/light. I am actually surprised how well it's doing for just sitting there. CF
-thought it would be totally out of control by now.
damn bro... clean that!!
smoke headies
Member
great grow stoney!
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yamaha_1fan
Whats the status here? YOu get a harvest yet?
Barn Growin'
Member
Whats the benefits of doing a flood and drain over a drip system can anyone explain? I never seem to see drippers on these big table grows but I would think it would be simpler and easier to maintain.
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yamaha_1fan
Kilbud said:Hey Stoney,
Awesome set up
I'm going to set up 2 3x6 tables and wanted to fing out how many mothers I will need to get 72 clones a month?
If you set the moms up right you would only need 1 or 2 moms
hey guys
hey guys
hey what's up yes i have harvested a few tables averageing almost 4lbs a table i am still been trying to get my nutes lined out a buddy has been on me to swich from an to botincare's triflex line so i gave it a try love the stuff in veg dont know about the flowering end of it yet he always does good with it
hey guys
hey what's up yes i have harvested a few tables averageing almost 4lbs a table i am still been trying to get my nutes lined out a buddy has been on me to swich from an to botincare's triflex line so i gave it a try love the stuff in veg dont know about the flowering end of it yet he always does good with it
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yamaha_1fan
just so I am clear, each table is 4x8 with 2 600ers and you pull almost 4 pounds off that?
Thats pretty good
Thats pretty good
Barn Growin'
Member
Looking good!
