Anyone growing in the lower mainland,BC with a license?

[LEDNewbie]

Quick question for those of you growing with a license in a residential home. Has anyone been staying under the 93 kwh daily limit? For those of you going over that number, what is your daily average, how long have you been growing at that number and have you received any inspections from the city? If you have had an inspection please list the city and what happened.


Reason I ask is I am getting a 65 plant license between the wife and I and it will be nearly impossible to stay under the 93kwh daily usage with anything more than 3 lights with our current power usage. What would you guys do? Continue as planned, try and stay under everyone's radar by using 3 lights and trying to stay under the 93kwh daily usage? Or fuck it and add another 5-6 lights? Thanks

 

[tommy_greens]

I wouldnt worry too much about inspections. Just make sure your electrical is up to code. Get a qualified electrician and use CSA/ETL certified ballasts with 600v lamp cords. You should be good. I have friends in Abbotsford and Chiliwack running 30 lights with multiple 5 ton A/Cs, dedicated veg rooms etc. City doesnt come inspect unless you apply for permits. And health canada DEFINATELY doesnt come inspect lol. Have at er bro. Happy growing.

 

[LEDNewbie]

Electrically it will be 100%. Only thing my electrician said that they would give me grief on is that I didn't use armored cable. Not sure how fucking picky they are for that?? All wires are inside the wall behind orca grow film and insulation.

While we are on the topic of electricity consumption. Does anyone know when big amounts of electricity is being consumed, if hydro just offers up that info to the cops or do the cops ask them if a certain address is using lots of power?? Something I've always wondered about?!?

 

[LEDNewbie]

Double post

 

[vukman]

Electrically it will be 100%. Only thing my electrician said that they would give me grief on is that I didn't use armored cable. Not sure how fucking picky they are for that?? All wires are inside the wall behind orca grow film and insulation.

While we are on the topic of electricity consumption. Does anyone know when big amounts of electricity is being consumed, if hydro just offers up that info to the cops or do the cops ask them if a certain address is using lots of power?? Something I've always wondered about?!?

armoured cable is usually for commercial and if you're growing at home, I really can't see why he would complain about that. I doubt that in any home building codes it would stipulate that armoured cable/bx cable is needed for any application. I mean the stove draws how many amps and watts?? There isn't a need for bx there so I don't understand the issue unless he wants to fleece you for extra money.

Good Luck

 

[TURBD]

Runner till the transformer on your street blows up. Then remove a couple lights.
Then you will know your at the "limit".

 

[powerrobbie]

Why does it even matter if the hydro company reports you to the police when you are a legal grower, not over your plant count and everything is up to code?? Worst case is the cops pay you a visit, you prove your legal and then they never bother you again...

 

[Green Supreme]

Kinda hard to explain to the neighbors after. I mean its not like just one plain clothed cop shows up, its a team of folks. Sure raises attention on you in your neighborhood. Peace GS

 

[LEDNewbie]

Kinda hard to explain to the neighbors after. I mean its not like just one plain clothed cop shows up, its a team of folks. Sure raises attention on you in your neighborhood. Peace GS

Exactly, trying to stay out of sight and out of mind

 

[LEDNewbie]

armoured cable is usually for commercial and if you're growing at home, I really can't see why he would complain about that. I doubt that in any home building codes it would stipulate that armoured cable/bx cable is needed for any application. I mean the stove draws how many amps and watts?? There isn't a need for bx there so I don't understand the issue unless he wants to fleece you for extra money.

Good Luck

I'm thinking my electrician said that because I'm only using poly and reflective material on the walls, no drywall or plywood?

 

[DrFever]

LED one of the most important things is eletrical like you mentioned you are making a room to go with over kill is better SAFETY FIRST especially when at drawing stages
you mentioned 63 plants between you and wife ???? seems allot of plants for it being legal, i searched on Health canada's MMA card status were talking about so many plants per no where do i see over like 12 plants
i know a person with a MMA card to grow he has AIDS and he is only allowed to got 8 plants indoor including all plants clones , veg and flower only 8 plants
how do you get 64 plant count between you and your wife ??????
and he can only grow 4 plants out door
now i also read you can grow for like 2 more people now becoming a care giver as well as wife gf or so on in your house hold , etc so i think max grown can be for 4 card holders per household ??? so being a care giver for 4 people
that still won't get you to 63 plant count ??? i don't think not 100 percent sure ,
but why run so many plants do less then you can run 2k of lighting you will still have a very good grow with 2 k

 

[Green Supreme]

DrFever the largest license is now 750 gram/day. That's over 3000 plants. According to my lawyer friend HC does not consider 100 grams/day uncommon. Maximum licenses 2/per person. Peace GS

 

[DrFever]

DrFever the largest license is now 750 gram/day. That's over 3000 plants. According to my lawyer friend HC does not consider 100 grams/day uncommon. Maximum licenses 2/per person. Peace GS

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/how-comment/medpract/help-aide/daily-quotidienne-eng.php

i found this july 2012

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"It will kill him," said his wife Brenda of the disease.

By chance, Brenda met Hamilton's Derek Pedro, a Health Canada designated medical marijuana grower and user, at a doctor's office. He recommended her husband try it.

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"The government wants the money," she said. "They don't want the little guys taking care of the sick people."

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[Tactician]

I'm thinking my electrician said that because I'm only using poly and reflective material on the walls, no drywall or plywood?

I`ve worked on several HC designated grows and not once did inspector want armored cable. Flexible 14/3 SOOW 600V rated cable is ideal. If you must use armored cable, get the THHN stranded copper wires, easier to wirenut to the mogul wires and if it`s wired to a flip box, it`s easy to add ring terminals to the ends and screw the the flip relays.

 

[DrFever]

I`ve worked on several HC designated grows and not once did inspector want armored cable. Flexible 14/3 SOOW 600V rated cable is ideal. If you must use armored cable, get the THHN stranded copper wires, easier to wirenut to the mogul wires and if it`s wired to a flip box, it`s easy to add ring terminals to the ends and screw the the flip relays.

SOOW is same stuff i use for my mig welder on 220 lol expensive stuff

 

[LEDNewbie]

Doc, more than likely won't even use half of the 65 plant total. But at least it gives me the flexibility to have plants in flower, in veg plus a large amount of clones where I can hand pick the best ones to proceed into veg and discard the weak ones.

I got a 35 plant license, the wife got a 30.....

 

[LEDNewbie]

I`ve worked on several HC designated grows and not once did inspector want armored cable. Flexible 14/3 SOOW 600V rated cable is ideal. If you must use armored cable, get the THHN stranded copper wires, easier to wirenut to the mogul wires and if it`s wired to a flip box, it`s easy to add ring terminals to the ends and screw the the flip relays.

Did the places you helped at have drywall or just poly/reflective material on the walls that the electrical wires were in behind? Do you mind stating what city's came and did the inspection? Were they called in or did they come on there own?

Everything is all wired with 14/3, nothing will be loaded no where near the max. Each light is on it's own home run. This is my own home and wouldn't risk anything or chance a fire...

I will be starting off with a 3 light grow but have enough room to make it a 6 light grow..... Just trying to figure out if it's worth going over that fucking 93 kwh rule or not???

 

[shizznit]

Wow, so many people out of the loop.
Check your legal precedents people....

The EFSI team's inspections have been found in court to be unlawful, they aren't even in business anymore, despite the papers running misleading articles.
If they show up at your home, have the relevant info at hand and ask them to leave....

 

[shizznit]

BTW, Health Canada approved licenses just passed 100,000 in number, up from just 10,000 18 months ago....

 

[LEDNewbie]

Wow, so many people out of the loop.
Check your legal precedents people....

The EFSI team's inspections have been found in court to be unlawful, they aren't even in business anymore, despite the papers running misleading articles.
If they show up at your home, have the relevant info at hand and ask them to leave....

Are you saying they aren't doing these inspections if you are above 93 kwh's??? I've fucking spent HOURS on the net reading and all I can find is talk about this 93 kwh rule and if you go over you could get a city inspection...???

When did this get removed and why?

What would be relevant info? Health Canada Documents?