I have been smoking Moby Dick this week and have smoked it previously before and I have to agree with VanVulpen.Will i grow it again? Most definately not... The smoke was just average
I can name instantly few.it is hard to find erb with personality, i agree
I read an articlce by Shatibaba in which he talked about helping Dinafem create their femmed critical mass. Clearly he doest agree that they are rip offs and frauds.
shantibaba said:Hi All
so let me clarify things for you from my stand point with a few facts. You cannot think for one minute femminizing seed is anything to do with breeding...it is not. Autoflowering is a breedable trait, and takes 5 or 6 generations to do so...therefore it has merit if that is the way you like your plants. Now you must be ignorant to think I have never femminized my mothers, I have. In fact Nev did it way before DP brought the so called revolution out of pandora`s box...but only to preserve a dead end line that was in female clone form...they were never used to breed with but to preserve moltihybrid orphans...so to speak.
Saying all of that why have we at MNS not jumped on the band wagon of commercialism...well the main reason(and one I spoke at length with Simone from Serious Seeds and he agreed off the record), is I cannot guarantee you will not get hermaphrodites at some point when using the chemically induced seed. That is simple but true. MNS has spent such a long time over many years to select plants from a lot of land races and take out the negative traits via true breeding combinations it is farcical to think we would begin to breed it back into strains...maybe with dementia in my brain I could think like that but at present I am cooking with gas!
There are several other reasons but it is not possible to guarantee a femminize seed will not have the potential to revert. Now saying that I must defend something about femminized seed too. Certain strains work better than others...in other words some strains that are femmed have negligible potential to hermi or produce non-viable pollen...and these would be the ones to go for as a prducer not a breeder of plants. But with the market so flooded as well as most seed companies never really testing more than basic things, the likelihood of some grower hittng the good relable strain is only via trial and error and a lot of growers. So rather than all vent personal beliefs there is something to do. I would suggest those who have and intend to use femminized seed should form a union of like minded flowers and share their experiences with others...this would certain weed out the usable fem seeds from companies that at least do their work rather than how it is now, 50 companies buy from 5 or 6 fem producers rename it all and sell it as a dream description based on no real origins...other than F1 seed from a selected clone from a regular seed in the first place!
So you see it is alright to have personal beliefs and opinions from your own experiences, but to dispel myths in exchange for concrete facts would seem a great way to turn the negative into a positive...imo.
All the best Sb
shantibaba said:Hi All
you must remember one thing when you think about this fem seed phenomena and that is it was released and endorsed by commercialism. DP and all the other so called big names who are now predominantly fem seed producers not breeders do it for profits. The buyers who buy it endorse those companies and take market share away from real true breeding companies, which is the reason alot of companies had to shift to fem seed...or go out of business. But fem seed is expensive and causing the downfall of the selective breeding processes of this industry in my opinion.
If there is a chance that in 10 yrs we find out fem seed infiltrated the gene pools of varieties of cannabis and made lines sterile or significantly hurt the chances of breeding new strains...then it will be the responsibility of all of those who endorsed it in the first place. The only injustice if this would be the case is those companies would have already profited. Like so many of the drug companies who find and make available new medicines only to find out later it has been detrimental in the long run and pay a fine..well it would have been too late.
I am not against fem seed even if you feel I am strongly opinionated against it. I am however strongly against human kind trying to think they can make nature better than it already is. I ran a successful landscaping company in the 80s in Australia and our aim was to try to make our work look like it was placed by nature... others made a living plonking an alien garden into a home that stood out...both have beauty to those who view them for different reasons. My gardens are still there and grown beautifully, while the alien gardens have come and gone...all the best Sb
Now the female seed story saved a lot of seed companies who never really breed seed as you only need a F1 female and chemicals….no need for a male…..so go figure why companies like the Greenhouse or Dinafem etc…set up selling female seed…..the money the demand and not really needing skill with males are all prerequisites to make a female seed. It is therefore obvious to me why Arjan (who is a very marketing person nothing more) and Franco come out every year with a new name plant…they buy an original F1 seed and donk it with silver nitrates and there you have there products…but now adays there are so many doing it it is incredible. Even companies have called me to tell me they feminised a clone of Critical mass in spain and call it critical plus….but say nothing more than thanks. So actually I really do not care any longer about other companies and what they say. We at MNS sell the real versions that won the original awards and made the legends…nowadays it is all confused and everyone is going feminised…except MNS. We exist so people who like to breed will be able to with the original true breed plants that come from selection and natural collection from traveling around the world. As they say, an empty barrel makes a louder noise…and we are full.
ShantiBaba