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Alberta's College of Physicians Snuffs Doc Pot
Posted: 01/20/2014 5:50 pm
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The federal government has recently changed the rules for medical marijuana. The new rules were developed, we are told, as the result of legal challenges that determined that the old ones were defective and made it unreasonably difficult for patients to access marijuana for medical purposes. While the federal government is trying to make things easier, the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta is working hard to accomplish the opposite. New College regulations will make medical marijuana - in Alberta - inaccessible, and make the College itself vulnerable to legal challenge.

On April Fools' Day 2014 - 1 April - medical marijuana users will wake up to an Alberta in which not a single doctor will be able to authorize marijuana for medical purposes. The default setting adopted in new rules that the Alberta College has recently proposed (but not yet enacted) will be that Alberta doctors will have to register with the College before being allowed to authorize medical marijuana. Currently, the default setting for the prescribing of powerful narcotics like morphine is that all Alberta doctors can do so without question (unless their privileges have been restricted). Furthermore the College has stated that it will not require doctors to apply for such authorization - in other words, if you, dear doctor, don't want to bother adding marijuana to your tool kit you don't have to and we (at the College) won't bug you. The question then becomes how many Alberta doctors will go to the trouble of becoming authorizers of medical weed. This question can likely best be answered by asking what the College will require of doctors who agree to authorize marijuana for patients. The time and cost of these requirements must be weighed against the benefit to the doctor who may have very few requests.

There are many requirements for doctors who would authorize marijuana as a treatment. Here is the College list:

1. The doctor will register with the College as an authorizer of medical marijuana.

2. Will know and comply with all provincial and federal legislation, including the Health Canada document "Information for Health Care Professionals" [94 pages of text; 58 pages of references].

3. Engage in professional education regarding the use of marijuana for medical problems and provide evidence of that training to the College.

4. Document all previous orthodox treatments that have failed to help the patient.

5. Assess the patient's risk of becoming addicted to marijuana by having the patient complete a questionnaire.

6. Complete, with the patient, a signed consent form that discusses the risks and benefits of medical marijuana.

7. Review two computer databases for previous drug use.

8. Provide the College with a copy of the marijuana authorization form within three days of completion of each one.

9. Check the two prescription databases each time a new marijuana authorization is written, and;

10. Be able to identify misuse/abuse of medical marijuana.

All of this - according to the College - must be done before the patient can even test drive marijuana as a possible treatment. One wonders how many grams of cannabis College advisors smoked before publishing these proposed rules. How many family doctors will go to the trouble of getting involved in the business of medical marijuana? My guess is not many. These rules send the message to young doctors that marijuana is more dangerous than powerful narcotics such as morphine or oxycodone. These rules pressure doctors to prescribe, preferentially, such narcotics if for no other reason than it is something they are familiar with and are comfortable doing. Yet alarming numbers of Canadians die each year from taking narcotics such as morphine.

There are other factors that will affect the outcomes of these administrative decisions... What is the cost of "medical" compared to "street" dope? The cost of medical marijuana is not covered by any insurance plan (marijuana does not have a Drug Identification Number - DIN - and all drugs covered by insurance must have this) so the full price must be borne by the purchaser. Authorizing documents must be mailed or couriered to the producer, and the dispensed marijuana is couriered to the patient monthly at the patient's expense.

Street marijuana sells for $240/ounce or less. That is $8.70/gram. Medical marijuana currently sells for $7.50 - $12/gram depending on strength. Street marijuana does not have the added transportation costs nor the costs associated with going to the doctor.

So many Canadians have tried, or use, marijuana recreationally. It is not difficult for anyone to find an illegal source. It only requires a few questions of a few friends.

In the end there would be no compelling reason for any Canadian to apply for access to medical marijuana in Alberta unless they had, most unusually, financial coverage or excessively high dosage requirements and costs.

The proposed new regulations of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta require that doctors write the total daily dose of marijuana and the duration of the authorization in days, weeks or months. They do not ask the strength of the product requested - different authorized producers offer marijuana strains of varying strengths (2.5% to 17% THC) and with varied chemical compositions. What is the College smoking indeed? (Health Canada regulations also do not require authorization of a particular strength of product.)

The College could simply have required that doctors apply the same degree of caution and thorough documentation as when prescribing potent, and potentially addicting, narcotics, such as morphine, when authorizing medical marijuana. It could have required doctors to provide a copy of each authorization written, in the same way it requires copies of prescriptions for narcotics. The proposed regulations appear to be entirely contrary to the spirit of the new federal regulations which seek to provide reasonable access to a potentially useful medical tool.

The new College regulations are not the end of the debate, but another beginning. Meanwhile, patients who used marijuana for medical purposes illegally prior to 1999, when the federal government created "medical marihuana" [this is the way the federal government spells it], will do so again.

Sandra Hunter
(2013 Calgary mayoral candidate - "Mayor-juana")



this may be a nail in the coffin for the current changes, and the gateway to full out legalization

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hope the skype docs dont shut their doors too soon lol will be an oil rush of hurtin albertans lining up from there to texas

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hey vancity

you read my mind lol

didnt want to triple post :)

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j0yr1d3

New poster here, been reading the forums a few months now and finally decided to register. Big thanx to everyone for all the info while we navigate these new waters together.

That being said I feel Alberta has never had reasonable access. The conservative mentality here is sickening. I've been a paraplegic most my life and tried to get medical marijuana since the age of 16. Due to my spinal cord injury i have neuropathic pain and severe muscle spasms in my legs. Not a single doctor would take me seriously when I would mention the idea of medical marijuana. Just "here have some pills". After years of ativan, valium, zanaflex and botox injections I would always go back to self medicating. Feeling like a zombie all day wasn't my idea of living. I finally sought out one of the infamous "skype docs" and 3 weeks later had my ATP. Marijuana has given me a quality of life I couldn't imagine, I support a family now and can actually function like a normal member of society. Sorry if that came off a bit ranty.
 

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Mj is amazing for neuropathic pain, my curse also.

Shame growing our own meds is coming to an end.

I find it funny how the system is allowing lps to be financed tho misuse of the old system...

I just wish I had had more time to stockpile more variety...
 
Joyride
Mj is amazing for neuropathic pain, my curse also.

Shame growing our own meds is coming to an end.

I find it funny how the system is allowing lps to be financed tho misuse of the old system...

I just wish I had had more time to stockpile more variety...

Although for me weed side effects out weight the benefits of pain relief on a daily usage basis, what is now probably the cheapest drug for many aliaments will become as of April first the most expensive drug all because the gov wants tax dollars from it LOL. S

So they are taking away free/cheap med's so they can make money.
 
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j0yr1d3

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Mj is amazing for neuropathic pain, my curse also.

Shame growing our own meds is coming to an end.

I find it funny how the system is allowing lps to be financed tho misuse of the old system...

I just wish I had had more time to stockpile more variety...

Yes it's been about the only thing that works effectively and efficiently for my neuropathic pain. There's even been studies by doctors that say medical marijuana should be one of the first line defenses for people with spinal cord injury and neuropathic pain, too bad the ignorant colleges of physicians and HC don't listen to reason or science.
 

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Alberta isn't the only province that's not supporting the new MMPR program.

It will be the status quo with Docs a cross Canada, it will be the same signing problem that has plagued the old MMPR since its conception in 2001. Doctors won't be signing, they don't want to be the gate keeper for an unregistered drug...Period...Period...Period!

I'm sure it won't be long, just keep watch for it, some greedy Doctor or Doctors will set up clinics that are not attached to there practice and these clinics will deal strictly with the prescription of Medical MJ...For a price, of course.

The first few will rake in the CASH!!!...I'm sure its being discussed over martinis at some club as we speak.

Peace...B
 

TUnknownGrower

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If we get a new Prime Minister this year the old MM program could be back, but I don't think we'll see outright legalization, the feds just opened the door to big-business making money off this industry.
If Harper gets re-elected things will probably stay the way they are for the foreseeable future....
 

blastfrompast

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new prime minister...lol....holy crap, I just medicated but that is funny as shit.

As for the greedy DR's...500bucks for a 8 minute Skype call is a bit much, do they charge the same fee's for prescribing ANY other RX....nope... I am happy I found a Dr. easily, but give me a break...
 

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hi blast

dude there are still a couple places in k-town charging 1500 per lic.

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Ignorant Officials said:
4. Document all previous orthodox treatments that have failed to help the patient.
I don't F'ing WANT your 'orthodox', and usually lethal, treatments, just the cannabis thanks.

Ignorant Officials said:
5. Assess the patient's risk of becoming addicted to marijuana by having the patient complete a questionnaire.
Cannabis is NON-ADDICTIVE, you twats!

Ignorant Officials said:
6. Complete, with the patient, a signed consent form that discusses the risks and benefits of medical marijuana.
That's a laugh... these people don't seem to know anything about cannabis, can't imagine what might be in the printed material they're suggesting to be used. lol


Ignorant Officials said:
7. Review two computer databases for previous drug use.

Wow... what does that have to do with treating a health condition with cannabis? OH yeah! You think cannabis is some kind of addictive drug. *Facepalm* Whatever...

Keep it Clean! :D
 

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clean-game

double face palm

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Continuing to cling to the notion the MMPR will fail by posting old articles?

Funny how every pro MMPR article clings on to numbers of possesion licenses which are 100% broken and they never account for people who will keep growing and for the underground market which will continue and supply the need like it always did. If people are currently growing and making money with $i800-1000lb's they will do just fine after April.

There was already weed available from the gov if you didn't want to grow. How many bought that on a regular basis? Yah not too many lol MMPR is no different except they are private for profit companies who are already throwing out insane numbers of possible profits based on broken numbers.

Also please explain to us who the hell can afford even 5grams per day at $5-12 per gram? Yah not too many...
 
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