Adding guano to soil,beginner organic,advice needed

[PunkAssWeed]

hi!

Next round is my first organic grow and need some tips for beginner.

i have soil which is lacking P (and N).

N 120 mg/l
P 90 mg/l
K 600 mg/l

For example to good soil , taken from mandala seeds , is

200-450 mg/l N
200-500 mg/l P
300-550 mg/l K

Got my self bat guano NPK 1-10-1

question. if want to add ,lets say, 400 mg/l P to my soil i need to add 4g guano to liter? P is 10% of guano so that makes 1g*10%= 100mg?

Do you have any advice using guano?
What else i should add to soil? dolomite lime maybe?
Adding N i use chicken shit.

what else i can use? nothing fancy but some basic stuff.

Thanks

PAW

 

[juan93]

cant help with your mixing ratios, but take a look at this article, good info for soil amendments, if you dont have the urge to read just scroll to the last two pages, has list of organic amendments, NPK profile, and brief description, would be a good start. hope this helps

http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/pnm15.pdf

 

[Mar-Tay]

from my own experience with guano i usually add to bottom 1/2 of pot to avoid root burn and keep some for making tea for later in flower.

 

[VerdantGreen]

ive used High P guano at 5 to 10 grams per litre of soil.

opinions vary on dolomite lime these days, but i use that at 3-5g per litre of soil and get good results with a soil that is 30% peat.

VG

 

[PunkAssWeed]

Thanks everyone!

also got some seaweed. Any suggestion how much to 10liter/2.5gal?

My plan is to use regular soil to germination. Repotting to bigger pot with half soil with chicken manure,guano and seaweed.

I think thats good to start with.

PAW

 

[turtle209]

Don't mind me while I continue to follow this thread

 

[PunkAssWeed]

This is getting out of hand.

Found this one http://www.******sshop.com/palm-boom-as-en.html#/product/29956

I think iam gonna get it.

So guano,chicken manure,seaweed,palm tree ash and dolomitelime.

And let that set for 2+ months. Got that tip from a friend. Let soil set it self to avoid ph problems.

PAW

 

[Bongaloid]

Please describe your existing soil. Did it come in a bag pre-mixed? What amendments have been added to it already?

 

[PunkAssWeed]

Its garden soil.

N 120mg/l
P 90mg/l
K 600mg/l

apparently limestone containing magnesium.

Thats all i can say.

PAW

 

[Bongaloid]

Does the bag give any indication of the source of its nutrients? Are you certain that it contains organic fertilizer and not chemical fertilizer?

 

[PunkAssWeed]

Its organic. There is mention that it is compost fertilized soil mix for garden.roughly translated. There is different kind of peat,and chicken manure.

PAW

 

[Bongaloid]

Strains grow differently under different circumstances. I would look at the breeder's recommendation as a rough guideline rather than a carved in stone number.

High N guano can get kind of hot too. I think you might invest in some worm castings, cut it into your existing mix at a ratio of something like 3:1. You are going to have to dial it in and don't want to burn up your plants in the process. Worm castings are mild and will feed over time. Sorry I can't give you more specific advice.

 

[PunkAssWeed]

Something about using teas:

I wonder is ec meter useful with organic nutes? I read somewhere that ec-meter is only useful with chemical nutes.

Can anyone tell me more about this? It was something about absorbtion.For example if i make organig tea with guano, is there any point to measure ec?

PAW

 

[Jonny Lan]

I use guano tea to feed my plants during flower. It helps me to stay in control of things bait better

 

[Jonny Lan]

Something about using teas:

I wonder is ec meter useful with organic nutes? I read somewhere that ec-meter is only useful with chemical nutes.

Can anyone tell me more about this? It was something about absorbtion.For example if i make organig tea with guano, is there any point to measure ec?

PAW

And i don't use ec and I'm cool. i never have any problems, but mind you i don't feed heavy i just read the leaves and i usually keep my plants lush green up until week 8-9 when my go's usually fade off i get pretty decent buds

 

[ssq.talker]

if you are doing microbe -tea ec no matter, but when u adding nuts-like guano ec matters. Make good ewc tea with lilttle amout of guano and dilute it with watter for example 1:1 and all gonna be fine.

 

[PunkAssWeed]

My recipe so far. Havent mixed it yet.

4-5g/l chicken 4-1-2. 200mg N
6g/l guano 1-10-1. 600mg P
4g/l ash 0-1-30. 1200mg K
3-4g/l dolomite lime
2g/l seaweed

It will be quite strong. I will mix it as much needed with regular soil. Idea is to use it as flowering soil. Re pot plants after sexing to this.


Any suggestions to mix or to anything?

PAW

 

[DoubleDDsNuggs]

I'm actually interested in how you tested your soil. was it sent to a lab?

 

[BurnOne]

I would use the seaweed and drop the ash.
Burn1

 

[PunkAssWeed]

I have basic info from manufacturer and rest is estimation/calculation.

For example guano 1-10-1. There is 10% of P there. So 1gram has 0.1g or 100mg of P.

I think i use ash. There is lots of micros in seaweed. Ash has enough P. PH might rise a bit with this.

PAW