I found a thread about stke fingas vertical grow. After seeing his results, I see where my vertical grow went wrong. I should have vegged longer and trained them around horizontally a bit. I think I will go with a CMH and then an HPS when the stretch stops and then CMH again to finish up. My past grows were swc but I'd like to try biobuckets. I think it might be too noisy though. Maybe aeroponics is the way to go. Dirt is too messy for me and I tend to overwater or let them dry out too much. I've ran my swc res almost dry before and the plants didn't seem to suffer much at all. I love micro grows; it's cool to see people get a lot from a little.