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30% or better strains?

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DrMota510

Any ideas...proven or otherwise on high 20's to 30% plus strains. Done right and on average. Heard of myths: Warlock 28%, Matunuska thunderfuck 30%...and heard of real deal, East Coast Sour diez at 30%.
 

whodair

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lets say you really love pepperoni pizza. how about extra pepperoni? maybe ok but a lil too greasy. how bout 100% pepperoni, no sauce, no cheese? waay to salty...

now how about 100% THC? hmmm, maybe something would be missing in the mix there too. this does nothing to answer your question and im sorry. my point is that I wouldnt be surprised if my favorite grass tested 18% and got me feelin just right. but then again, i like to hold the ronis, just cheese please.
 

amoril

Member
the problem I have with the whole "THC %"

is that its so subjective. Let me explain...

Its not told what this is a percentage of. IMO, they want you to believe that its by weight, but thats just absurd. anyone with any working knowledge of the plant can bunk this idea, so on to the next one...

What about % vs other cannabinoids? this is more realistic, but as whodair mentioned, its not THC alone that creates the high/stone. In fact, in creating marinol and other synthetics, they discovered that most of the cannabinoids enhance each other.

so, if the cannabinoids are almost entirely THC, youre not getting a full-effect smoke, just a strong THC smoke. If thats what you like, then thats cool, but chances are its not, since pretty much nothing youve smoked until now is like that, and Im sure you like some stuff youve already smoked.

And then, theres the whole problem with how the information is measured. Theres really no regulation, at all, so they could be lumping other cannabinoids in with that figure if they want....who knows.

Basically, all im sayin is, dont buy into the hype of everything you read. this is a largely unregulated industry, and as such companies will say anything to sell seeds without reprocussion. Buy what you trust.
 

Gert Lush

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Heard of myths: Warlock 28%, Matunuska thunderfuck 30%...
"Myths" is the right word, or its better known equivalent - "Bullshit".

These figures are bandied about by only two groups of people. Prohibitionists, who want to terrify the ignorant public, and seed-selling hypesters.

Think about it: In terms of THC %age by bud weight (a meaningless figure anyway - due to huge variance in leaf and stalk ratios) even a good clean powerfull bud would struggle to get to, say, 8%.

So wtf are these 20+ figures? Probably manipulated nonsense, like percentage THC in the trichomes (ie. IF you made it into hash) or some such. I have been asking on all forums for over three years, and I still have not received a sensible answer.

I'd say disregard the figures altogether and go by sampling & reputation.


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PS. Just read amoril's post. Spot on.
 
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DogBoy

Using their logic kief would be about 50-80% 'thc' so go for that if you just want high numbers. The whole THC value is useless unless you know the CBD, CBN etc. Without knowing this you have no way to gauge the quality or type of stone. You should really read the section in Hashish about the makeup of the psychoactive or one of the other chemistry type books. It will offer you a change to learn about what really affects a high.

The other thing you need to consider is your internal organs and the way you smoke. I may have the numbers the wrong way round as it's from memory but smoking i think goes from the lungs to the blood stream and then to the brain using THC1 and THC 9. when eaten you remove the lungs and replace them with liver and kidney which converts THC into THC 6 so you have an extra step when eating the herb. As the different versions of THC and the other chems break down at different rates in the human body this is why some stones last longer or affect you differently.

It's fascinating reading and means you can almost tailor your highs if you know what you are doing and what buds you have.

As for your original question, i believe SAGE is quoted as having a very high THC value.
 

PoopyTeaBags

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i do believe 23-24% was the highest ever tested that was a few years back but if there was shit in the 30% EVERYONE would know... anything above 20 will knock you on your ass...
 

mistaman

Member
i do believe 23-24% was the highest ever tested that was a few years back but if there was shit in the 30% EVERYONE would know... anything above 20 will knock you on your ass...

i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the fine growers at icmag could test their shit over 30 if they cared to. it isn't as uncommon as you might think. You should be wondering which strains are hitting the 40+

;)
 

Babbabud

Bodhisattva of the Earth
ICMag Donor
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Theres a club here in Cali that has some sort of machine to test pot with. It test for chemicals and percentage of thc. The best "name" stains out there .. the chemdogs and OG's are showing in the high 18% from what im seeing.
 

nmfp

New member
the problem I have with the whole "THC %"

is that its so subjective. Let me explain...

Its not told what this is a percentage of. IMO, they want you to believe that its by weight, but thats just absurd. anyone with any working knowledge of the plant can bunk this idea, so on to the next one...

What about % vs other cannabinoids? this is more realistic, but as whodair mentioned, its not THC alone that creates the high/stone. In fact, in creating marinol and other synthetics, they discovered that most of the cannabinoids enhance each other.

so, if the cannabinoids are almost entirely THC, youre not getting a full-effect smoke, just a strong THC smoke. If thats what you like, then thats cool, but chances are its not, since pretty much nothing youve smoked until now is like that, and Im sure you like some stuff youve already smoked.

And then, theres the whole problem with how the information is measured. Theres really no regulation, at all, so they could be lumping other cannabinoids in with that figure if they want....who knows.

Basically, all im sayin is, dont buy into the hype of everything you read. this is a largely unregulated industry, and as such companies will say anything to sell seeds without reprocussion. Buy what you trust.

Hi all my first post :wave:

amoril summed it up perfectly there. However I am getting back to the actual op's question. Maybe 6-12 months ago I saw on the news that the highest THC content weed any police have confiscated in the US was tested at 33%, that was in Oregon (the whole bit was about how the weed nowadays is better that the weed from previous decades) I figure the labs more than likely have some kind of standard in which they follow, way more consistant than the breeders.

Of course, they didnt offer info on what strain it was :smoke:
 
I would think anything stronger then OG or Sourdiesel or Headband would put you right out to sleep. If youre saying OG and SD are around 18% range wow 30% THC might leave you asleep for a few days...
 

devilgoob

Active member
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yes, where are these elusive 30% thc strains that will give me those "devastating effects" the government advertises?

im beginning to think our government lies. :) :abduct:
 

amoril

Member
Theres a club here in Cali that has some sort of machine to test pot with. It test for chemicals and percentage of thc. The best "name" stains out there .. the chemdogs and OG's are showing in the high 18% from what im seeing.


most likely either a liquid or gas chromatographer

and the only real way to analyze it. the high 18's, under ideal conditions maybe pushing 20 or so, is exactly what I would expect from our top notch stuff.
 

Nik Dynosaur

Active member
Theres a club here in Cali that has some sort of machine to test pot with. It test for chemicals and percentage of thc. The best "name" stains out there .. the chemdogs and OG's are showing in the high 18% from what im seeing.

GC/MS most likely. gas chromatograph/mass spectrometer.

i've seen one in action, it was incredible. They were able to discern which exact chemicals and exact amounts were in a sample of a person's hair and fat cells. It was really cool


edit: Oops, somehow i missed right over amoril's post. sorry buddy
 

pinecone

Sativa Tamer
Veteran
I have a question - 30% of what?

If someone says a strain is 22% THC is the percentage by weight, by mass, or something else?

Lucky
 

Gert Lush

Active member
Veteran
the high 18's, under ideal conditions maybe pushing 20 or so, is exactly what I would expect from our top notch stuff.
I just don't see that, myself. When you think that most of the THC is in the capitulate trichomes, which only comprise 10% of bud weight under good circumstances, maaaybe 15% under outstanding conditions, and if the hash itself (again under the best circumstances) is, say, 70% THC, then a good "by weight" %age would be 7%, with an exceptional max of say 12% (80% THC in the trichs, 15% by weight). Obviously that would be from one amazing pheno, and not your run of the mill, off-the-shelf stuff.

So it beats me where these 20+ figures are pulled from...

But perhaps someone knows and can explain. Not holding my breath, though.
 

amoril

Member
imo, its not by weight

its % THC vs other cannabinoids.

you gotta remember, not that long ago we thought THC was the only / and/or primary psychoactive. We know its important, but we also now realize how important other cannabinoids are to the overall process.

So, i imagine that most people were interested in how much of the cannabinoid pathway was realized as THC, and not the "useless" CBN/CBD/CBC etc...
 

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