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Mr.Bill

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Thought I'd stop by and say hello. So hello. Thanks for sharing. Looks like you guys are having fun over there. I was just wondering you guys have a fire extinguisher to put out all that fire your about to be pumping out?! ;) ~SB~
 

crzygirl

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We made some alterations in our second flower cab this morning, and have some pictures to share. Also transplanted two 2-1/2wk. old clones into this cab under 24hrs light until we see roots out of the net pots, then its off to 12/12.

This time the water level is 1/2" below the very surface of the container, we are unsure if we should put a plastic cup over the clones to keep moisture in. Anyone suggest that? RH is 36-42% as of late. PH was adjusted to 5.8, 3TSP of H202 was added, as well as 1TSP each of Micro, Gro, and Bloom.

We will be hanging clean white styrofoam in this cab as soon as we get to our supply of it. Enjoy the pictures.

Current Smoke (outdoor bagseed of a friend)











Evolution Lavender (Cross between P.T.K. and a skunk)


Gifted WW clone
 

crzygirl

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Small update with some root porn

Small update with some root porn

I decided to get help from my hubby to drain and flush the big system out because it hasn't been done since this monster went in, and she was drinking more water than nutrients. We took a couple of pictures of some problem leaves that are located damn near halfway up the plant, and a shot of her roots.

We flood and drained the system four times to get the water as clear as possible and refilled the system with 8 gallons of water total. We then mixed in 8tsp GH HardWater Micro, 12tsp GH Bloom, 1/2tsp Floralicious Plus, and 4tsp of KoolBloom. The ppm's turned up at 840. Does anything sound wrong with that mix? Need all the feedback we can get.

A Calcium Deficiency going on?


Manganese or PH Burn before nutrient lockout?


 

crzygirl

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Going by the lucas formula of 0-8-16, im thinking I should add another 16ml of bloom to our mix to make it correct. 8tsp Micro is 40ml which would be a 100% strength for 5 gallons of water, 12tsp of bloom is 60ml which would be 100% strength for 4 gallons of water.

Should I not even bother, am I thinking into this to much?
 

bounty29

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crzygirl said:
Going by the lucas formula of 0-8-16, im thinking I should add another 16ml of bloom to our mix to make it correct. 8tsp Micro is 40ml which would be a 100% strength for 5 gallons of water, 12tsp of bloom is 60ml which would be 100% strength for 4 gallons of water.

Should I not even bother, am I thinking into this to much?

Just do that. That's all you need to do, no thinking required.
 

FreezerBoy

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Maybe I'm confused on which res you're talking about ... Didn't you determine you were drinking more water than nutes? That's a sure sign of overfeeding. PPM 840 translates to EC 1.2-1.7. The first isn't weak and the latter is pretty strong. While PPM is rather useless in conversation, plants are illiterate. As long as you can see which direction the numbers are going, you can keep your plants happy. EC up, pH down=too strong. EC down, pH up = too weak.
 

FreezerBoy

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It's why we pay money for meters. 3 points to plot a line and all that jazz. Without suggesting commie plots, manufacturer's nute recommendations are not based on your plants health. They're based on how much can they cram in there without killing everything.

I'm still not sure which plants we're talking about. New or established? 1.2 EC for brand new roots is overkill and that's using the low conversion. Seeing how dark your plants are, I wonder if your suspected deficiencies aren't nute burn.
 

crzygirl

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Yeah the plant im talking about, and the plant with the leaves that look like calcium def and nute lockout, is the established 42 days old i have in flowerring and have been posting photos of. I noticed she wasn't drinking any nutes at 1500ppm so we flushed and refilled with ppm of 840, but we went by the bottles suggestion and did a 50% strength mix (2tsp Micro per gallon, and 3tsp Bloom per gallon, no Grow was added).

For some dumb reason I was thinking that was the lucas formula till I got online afterwards and saw that the lucas formula calls for 2-1/2 times the amount of Bloom per gallon, then stated on the bottle. That is why I was thinking I should add more bloom nute.
 

crzygirl

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The total amount of water used in my system went from 12gallons to 8 gallons, because one of the five gallon buckets is now empty due to not having anything to put in it yet.
 

FreezerBoy

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Seems I did in fact transpose your gardens in my mind. Still, 1500 translates to an EC of 2.1-3.0. Every plant is different but, I feed slightly rich and alkaline on purpose (This provides a slow pH drop allowing for greater nute absorption) An EC of 1.2 was too rich for my Thunks. You're close to 3 times stronger. Now, it could be that's what your plants want but, the only way to know is to ask the plants through the use of an EC meter.
 

bounty29

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I'd say stick with the lucas formula, why mess with a good thing if you're not sure what will happen?

I haven't gone above 1.4ec since I started using GH, and I've never seen my plants ask for any more. That means I'm maxing out at 700-980ppm, depending on your conversion.
 
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FreezerBoy

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bounty29 said:
I'd say stick with the lucas formula, why mess with a good thing if you're not sure what will happen?
Convenience can be worth it's weight in gold. Sometimes, it's worth paying extra to get back to ... whatever. Only the person involved can tell when and where.

Me? I'll spend 5 minutes to save 60%-70% on nutes. It's one of the reasons I dropped $130 to have a BlueLab Truncheon delivered to my door. But, that's just me.
 

crzygirl

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No pics :(

No pics :(

Fifth day of veg. for my two clone babies underneath the 70 watter, one is showing two roots coming out the bottom of her netpot, and the other we can see roots amongst the hydroton but inside the netpot. Could not see roots like that before.

We added a half of a teaspoon of micro, bloom, and gro to their big tub of food. Hopefully by monday ill have a mess of baby roots to show you all.

All seems ok in the big flower box with the massive Lavander girl, she is deffinetly producing a good amount of trichomes on her. And they so far, go out onto the next sets of leaves a bit.

Maybe she will be snow white come chop time? Have never grown/seen this particular strain before.
 

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